February 25, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Disagree. They should have had all of this worked out ahead of time. Instead of allowing western Europe to pretend it wasnt going to happen, he should have planned ahead. But that requires leadership and foresight I literally said exactly what you posted in the next sentence. They played the public communication well, but failed to do the work behind the scenes it seems.
February 25, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: It's funny. On a normal day, we talk about how retarded CVON is, and it is. But then you get an event like this that brings all the casuals out of the woodwork, and it somehow drives the collective IQ even lower. There is no rock bottom in this place. yep...it brings in the dumbest maroons on the emb...and guess which "side" they're all on?
February 25, 20223 yr Just now, Toastrel said: I had not considered that. Well, I'm sure he thinks this will actually help.
February 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Again where are the adults? I see a bunch of juveniles with delusions of grandeur, making a bunch of D sucking references over and over again, and pretending they didnt vote for Neville Chamberbiden Mike, right after he typed out this post
February 25, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: they have a lot of guilt Abracadabra doesn't. He was actively promoting Putin's claim of Notzees holding the country hostage by the Azov Battalion, A Right Wing Notzee group, full of very fine people, that Trump would love.
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Not as much as you love a mouth full of D. Boom! Me too. Multiple times, just like the last election! Oh good, now the adults are in the room, thank god
February 25, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Are you really surprised? Yes, a little. I'm on the conservative side of the spectrum and I despise Putin, Xi, etc. Reagan is probably rolling over in his grave hearing the way some Republicans are talking.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: I saw the picture being shared and wasn't sure if it was a fake meme or not. Nice to see that it was real
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: "Please make things about race and gender! It's the only way I know how to argue!" What a weird loser Its not weird at all, its legitimately the DNC playbook. You guys are trying to blame Trump, saying republicans are backing the KKK and China and Russia Totally insane. This wont work anymore, its not 2018 4 minutes ago, Toastrel said: I had not considered that. 🤣
February 25, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: Thank F we've got geopolitical geniuses like you and Vikas to point out the errors with such reasoned arguments as "wat?" and 'I decided not to respond' If you think Biden or any US president is going to airlift a US army group into Europe to fight Russia out of places like Albania, Bulgaria or Hungary, which is what a proper NATO response would require, I don't know what to tell you, I can pretty much guarantee the earliest point NATO would jump in is maybe Poland, because then he'd be on the border of NATO's old money. Hi Mr. Calhoun, pleasure to make your acquaintance and welcome to CVON. For faster processing of your posts, it's probably best if you include a disclaimer of the very thing you end up advocating for later on in the same post. For example, if you think the vaccine changes your DNA, it's best to open up with "I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but it sure seems like they are trying to exert control over the population with gene therapy through this experimental serum." Or likewise if you think President Trump was the bees knees and well on his way to making America great again before the election was unfairly stolen from him, you could say "I'm not a Trump Supporter, but this country was so much better off when he was staring at solar eclipses and bragging about passing simple 5-question cognitive tests on live TV." In this thread however, it's probably best to prepend the statement "I'm not a Russophile, but..." at the beginning of the rest of your posts just to make sure we are all on the same page from now on. Thanks for your time and we eagerly await further correspondence!
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I literally said exactly what you posted in the next sentence. They played the public communication well, but failed to do the work behind the scenes it seems. Yes I edited my post when I re-read the "consensus" part
February 25, 20223 yr Quote EDIT: Meaning: German Finance Minister Lindner has just declared Germany's willingness to disconnect Russia from the SWIFT system. This would completely cut off Russian banks from the dollar supply, as Belgium-based SWIFT organizes data transmission between international banks. i'm looking for a reputable source...one in english! https://www.fxstreet.com/news/german-finance-minister-we-must-step-up-sanctions-against-russia-are-open-to-cutting-russia-from-swift-202202251603
February 25, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: yep...it brings in the dumbest maroons on the emb...and guess which "side" they're all on? Russia! Or China! Or KKK! Hungary? I dont know, can you just tell me?
February 25, 20223 yr I see the same people arguing that Trump deserves zero blame for weakening NATO are the same folks laying blame on *checks notes*...transexuals.
February 25, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said: Actually Georgia had signed preliminary agreements to join NATO in 2008 right before Russia annexed the majority ethnic Russian bits of South Ossetia and Abkhazia but do carry on, NATO sent Condoleeza Rice to tell them to sign the ceasefire, now Ukraine who have been getting guns and military aid from NATO, are now getting phone calls from NATO leaders telling them eh no we won't be riding to the rescue but you be strong now. Jesus Christ do you need a diagram, if the cost of peace is removing NATO military infrastructure from Ukraine's neighbours which is the sticking point, they'll promise to do it, they already did it in Minsk and then decided to renege, you can guarantee a country's independence without having them as formal members of NATO. You're cracked too. I would prescribe less Russo propaganda.
February 25, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Russia! Or China! Or KKK! Hungary? I dont know, can you just tell me? You got it right with your first four answers
February 25, 20223 yr Quote NATO has activated its NATO Response Force, marking the first time the alliance has activated the potentially 40,000-person force for "a deterrence and defence" role, according to a NATO spokesperson. This means that the 8,500 American troops put on heightened alert in late January for this mission could soon be ordered to Europe. The decision follows a meeting of NATO ministers Friday morning in Brussels. To be activated, the 30 members of NATO must all agree to activate the force, which is under the command of Gen. Told Wolters, the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. -ABC News' Luis Martinez
February 25, 20223 yr Watching these ignorant of history, complete toolbags, argue pro-Russia, anti-NATO stances (and frankly, anti-USA) is very enlightening.
February 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: Are people in here really defending Putin? He, Xi and/or Khamenei are the answer to the Trivial Pursuit question, "Who is Most Likely to Start WWIII?" Examining Russia's motivations doesn't necessarily mean you "love Putin" or are happy there's a war in Ukraine. I expect that kind of asshattery from Cvon's ishlibs, not a normal person.
February 25, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I literally said exactly what you posted in the next sentence. They played the public communication well, but failed to do the work behind the scenes it seems. I'll at least argue a plausible defense for Biden (and Boris Johnson) here. The sticking point here is Germany. Given how vocal the US has been over the past two months that Putin was gearing up to invade Ukraine, there's no reason to believe that 1. The US and UK weren't putting a lot of pressure on Germany to get on board with tougher sanctions including SWIFT, and 2. That Germany was unaware of exactly how imminent this threat was. Germany either deluded itself into thinking Putin would not invade (clouded by wishcasting about being able to make a deal with the devil without losing its soul in the process), or legitimately (but wrongly) thinks the sanctions we landed on are proportional to Putin's actions. This doesn't absolve Biden of responsibility, Biden should have absolutely pulled more levers to get Germany on board. But I do think I'd say Germany has a larger share of the blame.
February 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: F'ing weird, man. You cannot take the scalp of strawmen. These guys try like hell anyway.
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