February 26, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, vikas83 said: He had a German Shepherd named Blondie. He tested the cyanide on the dog in the bunker before he killed himself. This is a great book on all the drugs Hitler and his troops used.
February 26, 20223 yr Just now, vikas83 said: I can’t see him retreating. His entire aura with his people is based in being a strong man. He can’t lose. He will push in the heavier stuff and "win". Of course the win is just temporary though. An occupation will be quite a difficult task.
February 26, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: He will push in the heavier stuff and "win". Of course the win is just temporary though. An occupation will be quite a difficult task. That is the 2nd part of my questioning.. What is Putins end game here? Take over Ukraine and all the people in it become what... Russians? Slaves? Prisoners of war? Whats the goal?
February 26, 20223 yr Author Just now, What The F said: That is the 2nd part of my questioning.. What is Putins end game here? Take over Ukraine and all the people in it become what... Russians? Slaves? Prisoners of war? Whats the goal? He probably doesn't know at this point because he didn't expect type of fight from the Ukrainians.
February 26, 20223 yr Just now, What The F said: That is the 2nd part of my questioning.. What is Putins end game here? Take over Ukraine and all the people in it become what... Russians? Slaves? Prisoners of war? Whats the goal? I think the original goal was to absorb the Eastern part and install a puppet government for the remainder. But the bloodier this gets, the more I think Putin may get irrational/angry and try to absorb the whole country. But I would wager on the puppet government outcome for now.
February 26, 20223 yr Just now, vikas83 said: I think the original goal was to absorb the Eastern part and install a puppet government for the remainder. But the bloodier this gets, the more I think Putin may get irrational/angry and try to absorb the whole country. But I would wager on the puppet government outcome for now. And the people of Ukraine? Just expected to fall in line under a new government? Sorry, I havent followed the details of all this, so admittedly ignorant on most aspects.
February 26, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I can’t see him retreating. His entire aura with his people is based in being a strong man. He can’t lose. The best hope for a Russian retreat is for Putin's men to turn on him and remove him from power one way or the other. Problem there is that Putin likely has chosen men specifically so they wouldn't do that. Which also probably contributing to why the invasion has gone so poorly - he didn't choose the best and brightest, he chose for personal loyalty. Like some other would-be authoritarians tried....
February 26, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, What The F said: And the people of Ukraine? Just expected to fall in line under a new government? Sorry, I havent followed the details of all this, so admittedly ignorant on most aspects. The occupation, assuming it happens, would be very painful for Russia. This whole thing was incredibly stupid. Putin is not a mastermind, he's a megalomaniac no longer guided by reason.
February 26, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: The occupation, assuming it happens, would be very painful for Russia. This whole thing was incredibly stupid. Putin is not a mastermind, he's a megalomaniac no longer guided by reason. And it somehow made the world less afraid of Russia‘s military. Just stunningly stupid on all fronts.
February 26, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The occupation, assuming it happens, would be very painful for Russia. This whole thing was incredibly stupid. Putin is not a mastermind, he's a megalomaniac no longer guided by reason. He could have taken the eastern sections and stopped and nothing much would have happened. He is screwed now.
February 26, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I think the original goal was to absorb the Eastern part and install a puppet government for the remainder. But the bloodier this gets, the more I think Putin may get irrational/angry and try to absorb the whole country. But I would wager on the puppet government outcome for now. Agreed. Exactly this. He will still push for this but the Ukranian people seem to want to sheet on this setup. Actually, I can hear all the people in Sweden with roots in the other areas of the Easter Bloc and then are all very very upset. I think it will be a broader regional push back at the grass roots level. I just spoke with my Polish neighbor (born in Poland, moved here when she was two) today and she wants to start an online fund of some sort to raise money to pay whoever takes Putin out. I suggested she be careful with that one
February 26, 20223 yr Author 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The best hope for a Russian retreat is for Putin's men to turn on him and remove him from power one way or the other. Problem there is that Putin likely has chosen men specifically so they wouldn't do that. Which also probably contributing to why the invasion has gone so poorly - he didn't choose the best and brightest, he chose for personal loyalty. Like some other would-be authoritarians tried.... So the Russian are on the right?
February 26, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Russian forces during WWII were mostly cannon fodder. But they were also defending their homeland and later exacting revenge. The role is now reversed, with Ukrainians defending their own homeland with Russians as the invaders - if reports are true reluctant invaders in the rank and file. Yup...Stalin and Hitler were in cahoots till Hitler broke their agreement and invaded. Stalin had quite some time to execute his own mass genocide till that happened.
February 26, 20223 yr The Russian attack marks a turning point. It is our duty to do our best to help Ukraine defend against the invading army of #Putin . That's why we're supplying 1000 anti-tank weapons and 500 stinger missiles to our friends in the #Ukraine . Germany finally finding their balls after being chastised by the rest of NATO and Europe.
February 26, 20223 yr Ukrainian ministry of Infrastructure updated road signs to say "welcome to hell"
February 26, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: It's obvious they aren't kidding when they say they are willing to die defending their homes. Gosh, I love those people.
February 26, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Ukrainian ministry of Infrastructure updated road signs to say "welcome to hell" Smart. The Russian troops have to see that and know it's true.
February 26, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: It's obvious they aren't kidding when they say they are willing to die defending their homes. Gosh, I love those people. They’re the type of folks you definitely want no business fighting. They are absolutely insane and they should be proud. Oh also they were obviously well prepared.
February 26, 20223 yr Inside the Biden administration's monthslong effort to build a multi-country coalition to sanction Russia TL;DR: Biden has been working with EU allies since October on the sanctions. His administration has put in the work needed. This seems consistent with the incredibly accurate and voluminous levels of intelligence the US and others had predicting this invasion, and what they've been able to feed to Ukraine to support their defensive efforts and frustrate the Russian advance. The one thing in here that sticks to me is Biden's reluctance to publicly commit to the SWIFT move, but that seems inevitable with all of Europe on board.
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