March 2, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, TEW said: He’s not though… he’s winning, decisively. He’s taken about half the southern coast in less than a week and should have the capital in another week or two. Im really not sure where people are getting the idea that the war isn’t going well for him. He's getting creamed in the information space, a battlefield he has dominated for the past 6 years at least. This is important because it means he's not getting the support he wants at home and he's not getting the demoralization he wants in Ukraine. Poltically and economically the West has it's shite 100% together. That won't stop him from taking Kyiv by the end of the week but it will puncture huge holes in his 3-5 year plan. Oh, and on the battlefield, a heavy underdog has kicked him straight in the nuts Body bags are coming home by the thousands and that's a really, really bad way to start a European conquest. This is going terribly for him.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: You think he didn’t realize there would be sanctions? Come on man… And the reality is, all of the sanctions and financial problems will be relatively short lived compared to achieving his ultimate goal.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: You think he didn’t realize there would be sanctions? Come on man… Not on this level this quickly, no he didn't. He thought he was going to roll in and play a misinformation war as the grey area liberator.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Parrot Head said: And the reality is, all of the sanctions and financial problems will be relatively short lived compared to achieving his ultimate goal. Exactly— taking Ukraine is basically his life’s work. A decade or two of sanctions is acceptable to take back Ukraine permanently.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: You think he didn’t realize there would be sanctions? Come on man… I don't think he believed the West would be as unified, nor did he think the sanctions would be as brutal. You think he had any expectation of shutting down the stock market for a week? Come on man, even freaking Zerohedge sees the economic damage - both immediate and lasting - that the sanction package is doing. And yes, Biden deserves a nice chunk of credit. These sanctions are what he'd been promising Putin would be facing, and he delivered.
March 2, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, TEW said: He’s about to capture the capital and he almost owns the entire coast at this point. He invaded what, 6 days ago? Not sure I’m seeing this resistance everyone else is… I'm not arguing he's not winning the war. Nor that he's not going to win. The difference in power nearly comical. But c'mon Kyiv to the Russian border is what about the length of New Jersey? With multiple reports of supply line failures along that distance too That's hardly a testament to the strength of his army. But more the point I was making is that the response outside of Ukraine does not appear to be within what would be acceptable sacrifice for Putin. He's pushed multiple border countries closer to the West/NATO, been largely cut off from the global market, had the Fing Swiss of all people freeze his assets, tanked the ruble, and made Germany arm themselves again. You really think he anticipated all that and still went forward with his plan?
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, dawkins4prez said: Not on this level this quickly, no he didn't. He thought he was going to roll in and play a misinformation war as the grey area liberator. Again, I think you are seriously underestimating him.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: Again, I think you are seriously underestimating him. I'll be here, as always. So will you.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DEagle7 said: I'm not arguing he's not winning the war. Not that he's not going to win. The difference in power nearly comical. But c'mon Kyiv to the Russian border is what about the length of New Jersey? With multiple reports of supply line failures along that distance too That's hardly a testament to the strength of his army. But more the point I was making is that the response outside of Ukraine does not appear to be within what would be acceptable sacrifice for Putin. He's pushed multiple border countries closer to the West/NATO, been largely cut off from the global market, had the Fing Swiss of all people freeze his assets, tanked the ruble, and made Germany arm themselves again. You really think he anticipated all that and still went forward with his plan? In a word, yes. His entire life’s work has been to take back Ukraine. This was basically the best chance he would ever get. He knew the cost and did it anyway, which isn’t all that surprising if you’ve read much of his writing on the fall of the USSR.
March 2, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Parrot Head said: And the reality is, all of the sanctions and financial problems will be relatively short lived compared to achieving his ultimate goal. Yeah that's just false. 3 minutes ago, TEW said: Again, I think you are seriously underestimating him. You're seriously overestimating him.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah that's just false. You're seriously overestimating him. He sounds like his favorite person Trump
March 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't think he believed the West would be as unified, nor did he think the sanctions would be as brutal. You think he had any expectation of shutting down the stock market for a week? Come on man, even freaking Zerohedge sees the economic damage - both immediate and lasting - that the sanction package is doing. And yes, Biden deserves a nice chunk of credit. These sanctions are what he'd been promising Putin would be facing, and he delivered. Yeah, I do. He knew it would be the end of economic relations with the west. He doesn’t care if it gets him Ukraine.
March 2, 20223 yr Quote Wang Yi said, the Cold War has long gone, and it's necessary for NATO to reconsider its positioning and responsibilities. China believes that the Cold War mentality based on bloc confrontation should be completely discarded. China supports NATO, the EU and Russia in resuming dialogue aimed at building a balanced, effective and sustained European security mechanism, so as to achieve lasting peace and stability on the European continent. China's Wang Yi in call from Germany's Annalena Baerbock Basically Russia's position. Quote Kuleba briefed Wang Yi on the outcomes of the first round of negotiation between Ukraine and Russia. Noting that ending the war is the top priority for Ukraine, he said Ukraine is open to solving the current issue through negotiation and approaches the negotiation with positivity and sincerity. He noted that although the negotiation was not smooth, the Ukrainian side still maintains calm and is willing to move forward with the talks. He said China has played a constructive role on this issue and that Ukraine is ready to step up communication with the Chinese side. He looked forward to China’s mediation efforts for the ceasefire. Ukraine's Dmytro Kuleba in call to China's Wang Yi Step aside U.S..
March 2, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, TEW said: He’s not though… he’s winning, decisively. He’s taken about half the southern coast in less than a week and should have the capital in another week or two. Im really not sure where people are getting the idea that the war isn’t going well for him. 28 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: Also to add, I think too many people equate the word "propaganda" as being bad. It's a very thin line and depends how you use it, but it's not a completely bad thing. The propaganda arm of national war machines is fascinating (obviously a flippant use of the adjective given the grotesque and tragic nature of wars). It's an important weapon. If there was not some overriding sense or sentiment that Putin is frustrated and confused over a failing invasion, then Ukranians would be laying down their arms and either fleeing or surrendering en masse (and I'm sure some are). Morale is critical to get your troops to run towards the conflict. The irony, in the hyper-speed information age, is that we still have no better idea of what is going on than we did in the prior world wars. Back then, information traveled slower, individual snapshots and type-written reports told American civilians what was happening. Twitter, Instagram, YouTube...they can all bring you right to the conflict, but each of those platforms and each individual smartphone user presents an opportunity to curate the information we receive. If the full might of the US military were to mobilize and invade Sesame Street tomorrow, you'd probably see one blackhawk go down and one humvee break down and smoke out on the side of the road. Plaster that all over the internet with some good clips and suddenly Big Bird and Elmo derailed the early plans for the American war effort. Look, I'm as pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia as it gets. I just don't trust any of the information we receive. It has been marinated, seasoned, and presented better than a Michelin meal at this point.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: TEW is sometimes wrong is all Happy to see you TEW.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, I do. He knew it would be the end of economic relations with the west. He doesn’t care if it gets him Ukraine. And if that's so, say it with me: those are not the actions of a rational man. He's not a young man. He's old and running out of time. That is not the stuff of rational decision making.
March 2, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, TEW said: He’s about to capture the capital and he almost owns the entire coast at this point. He invaded what, 6 days ago? Not sure I’m seeing this resistance everyone else is… You will when you see the number of dead Russian soldiers
March 2, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, TEW said: In a word, yes. His entire life’s work has been to take back Ukraine. This was basically the best chance he would ever get. He knew the cost and did it anyway, which isn’t all that surprising if you’ve read much of his writing on the fall of the USSR. Fair enough I guess. Look I absolutely agree that historically he is, unfortunately, a lot brighter than people like to admit. And I agree a portion of the "rah rah look at Ukraine go!" narrative is wishful thinking and propaganda. Guess I just disagree that this particular move seems well executed/well thought out because logically the juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze.
March 2, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Parrot Head said: And the reality is, all of the sanctions and financial problems will be relatively short lived compared to achieving his ultimate goal. What makes you think sanctions will go away if he takes Ukraine?
March 2, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I don't think he believed the West would be as unified, nor did he think the sanctions would be as brutal. You think he had any expectation of shutting down the stock market for a week? Come on man, even freaking Zerohedge sees the economic damage - both immediate and lasting - that the sanction package is doing. And yes, Biden deserves a nice chunk of credit. These sanctions are what he'd been promising Putin would be facing, and he delivered. He thought he could spin this. He had frickin Tucker Carslon parroting his talking points, yeah that was like a week ago. RT Europe and his army of meme makers. He genuinely thought he had much more support from the Ukranians, that he would be able to waltz parades down most of the smaller hubs and translate that into tik toks that would muddle the message. He was counting on false flag operations that were exposed by U.S intelligence before they came to fruition. He got CREAMED on the cyber battlefield he swore he dominated and now he's running with no cover, no fog of war or cloudy intentions. Just straight up 20th century barbarity and he's not even doing a good show flexing his military might.
March 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, barho said: What makes you think sanctions will go away if he takes Ukraine? Not right away, but eventually they will, and Russia will recover financially. And they will have Ukraine….which is part of the ultimate goal. Much more important to Putin than temporary financial problems. Simple risk/reward.
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