March 2, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, DEagle7 said: Fair enough I guess. Look I absolutely agree that historically he is, unfortunately, a lot brighter than people like to admit. And I agree a portion of the "rah rah look at Ukraine go!" narrative is wishful thinking and propaganda. Guess I just disagree that this particular move seems well executed/well thought out because logically the juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze. I think part of the problem in the west is viewing the situation through western eyes where trade is paramount and we think we can all just get along happily ever after. Again, I’d refer you to Aleksandr Dugin and his differentiation between "Atlanticists” and "Eurasionists.” The Russian view is one that sees NATO as a threat — and let’s be real here, it is a threat to Russia. This really is a grand vision move. A true empire building move. They’ll get plenty of benefit up front: food, warm water ports, a buffer zone with NATO, etc. but it’s really about rebuilding a Russian empire and Putin’s historical legacy. Sanctions don’t matter to him in that context.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: I think part of the problem in the west is viewing the situation through western eyes where trade is paramount and we think we can all just get along happily ever after. Again, I’d refer you to Aleksandr Dugin and his differentiation between "Atlanticists” and "Eurasionists.” The Russian view is one that sees NATO as a threat — and let’s be real here, it is a threat to Russia. This really is a grand vision move. A true empire building move. They’ll get plenty of benefit up front: food, warm water ports, a buffer zone with NATO, etc. but it’s really about rebuilding a Russian empire and Putin’s historical legacy. Sanctions don’t matter to him in that context. Dugin never advocated military conquest for Ukraine.
March 2, 20223 yr https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/02/us-oil-jumps-to-highest-since-2013-tops-109-a-barrel.html U.S. oil jumps to highest since 2013, tops $109 a barrel as Russia’s war on Ukraine sparks supply fears
March 2, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Dugin never advocated military conquest for Ukraine. Yeah, he just got banned from traveling to the US for backing separatists. His entire world view is based off of a Eurasian empire, and Ukraine is most certainly a big part of that concept my dude.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, M.C. said: 90TH PERCENTILE!!!!!!!!!!!! Bingo. I'm sure it's a total coincidence that TEW is once again parroting Trump's talking points while fawning over Putin and claiming how well this is all going for Russia. My favorite part is where he claimed he didn't even know if Trump weighed in on this.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, barho said: You will when you see the number of dead Russian soldiers I've seen this movie before so I'll tell you how it ends: TEW will say any news of Russian missteps is propaganda, and then when the sheer amount of evidence is overwhelming indicating losses truly are too high to deny, he'll pivot and claim it was all part of Putin's perfectly calculated and rational plan. Suffering massive losses both militarily and economically don't matter as long as he gets Ukraine. In TEW world, no price will ever be too high for Putin to pay because otherwise he'd have to bring himself to admit the invasion was a mistake.
March 2, 20223 yr Just saw a good piece on Swedish TV about all the misleading info out there on social media and how much of it has been picked up and shared by both public figures and the media. The events on Snake Island was one example, dated material like the molotov cocktain vid from 2014, and also stuff taken from video games. Bottom line is that there is a ton of stuff out there that is not actual footage from what is going on in the Ukraine right now and of course it is all mixed in with the real stuff. The "spin" and "deception" is of course very normal while the speed and level of spread via social media is very new.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, DrPhilly said: Just saw a good piece on Swedish TV about all the misleading info out there on social media and how much of it has been picked up and shared by both public figures and the media. The events on Snake Island was one example, dated material like the molotov cocktain vid from 2014, and also stuff taken from video games. Bottom line is that there is a ton of stuff out there that is not actual footage from what is going on in the Ukraine right now and of course it is all mixed in with the real stuff. The "spin" and "deception" is of course very normal while the speed and level of spread via social media is very new. The first casualty of war.
March 2, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, TEW said: Yeah, he just got banned from traveling to the US for backing separatists. His entire world view is based off of a Eurasian empire, and Ukraine is most certainly a big part of that concept my dude. Of course it is. My point was that Dugin never advocated a position that involved invading the whole of Ukraine or annexing it entirely by military conquest. These are his words from 2014: The USA and NATO countries will support by all means the Westerns and the Kiev junta. But in reality this strategy will only worsen the situation. The essence of the problem lays here: if Russia intervenes in the affairs of the [Western Ukraine] State whose population (the majority) regard this intervention as illegitimate, the position of the USA and NATO States would be natural and well founded. But in this situation the population of the East and South of Ukraine welcomes Russia, waits for it, pleads for Russia to come. There is a kind of civil war in Ukraine now. Russia openly supports the East and South. The USA and NATO back the West. The Westerns are trying to get all Ukraine to affirm that not all the population of the East and South is happy with Russia. This is quite true. Also true is that not all of the population of the West is happy with Right Sector, Bandera, Shukhevich and the rule of tycoons. So if Russia would invade the Western parts of Ukraine or Kiev that could be considered as a kind of illegitimate aggression. But the same aggression is in present circumstances the position of the USA that strives to help the Kiev junta take the control of the East and South. It is perceived as an illegitimate act of aggression and it will provoke fierce resistance.
March 2, 20223 yr Yep. An American has joined the Russians to stomp those knot zee Ukrainians. Uh huh., Sort of odd the Russians bombed a holocaust site in their efforts to stamp out knot zees.
March 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Yep. An American has joined the Russians to stomp those knot zee Ukrainians. Uh huh., Sort of odd the Russians bombed a holocaust site in their efforts to stamp out knot zees. Traitorous scum.
March 2, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, Kz! said: She’s like the female Dan Quayle. 15 hours ago, TEW said: How? He’s steamrolling through Ukraine faster than the US steamrolled Iraq. Yeah, of course not everyone likes Putin and there is some resistance l. You think Putin thought before the invasion he would be completely unopposed? Come on — we all agree Putin is the bad guy here, but it’s not like this invasion isn’t going well for him. He’s taking territory and strategic points quickly. Sucks, but in the real world sometimes the bad guys win. He’s not steamrolling. He’s behind his own timeline. Kyiv should have been take. Last week. 12 hours ago, TEW said: He’s not though… he’s winning, decisively. He’s taken about half the southern coast in less than a week and should have the capital in another week or two. Im really not sure where people are getting the idea that the war isn’t going well for him. Except it’s not going well for him. It’s not going well for the Ukrainians, but it’s not going well for him either. He gambled that he could shock and awe with only light infantry, without using the combined arms that shock and awe requires. Russia doesn’t have the stockpile of precision munitions that we had in Iraq either. They have essentially none left. Which is why the Kyiv transmission tower was being targeted by indirect fire. If if were us that tower would have been hit by a JDAM on hour one and knocked out. They’re stuck using arty and their logistics aren’t warfighters. Hell, they were trying to take and hold territory with airborne troops without having air superiority. Nobody does that ever, because it’s a sure fire way to get some of your best troops killed, which it did. Simply put, they don’t have the force projection capabilities that they needed, and even resorting to total war they’re still not advancing at the pace they need to in order to guarantee a victory. 12 hours ago, TEW said: He’s about to capture the capital and he almost owns the entire coast at this point. He invaded what, 6 days ago? Not sure I’m seeing this resistance everyone else is… The map you’re using is confusing holding MSRs with holding large swaths of terrain.
March 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Bill said: She’s like the female Dan Quayle. He’s not steamrolling. He’s behind his own timeline. Kyiv should have been take. Last week. Except it’s not going well for him. It’s not going well for the Ukrainians, but it’s not going well for him either. He gambled that he could shock and awe with only light infantry, without using the combined arms that shock and awe requires. Russia doesn’t have the stockpile of precision munitions that we had in Iraq either. They have essentially none left. Which is why the Kyiv transmission tower was being targeted by indirect fire. If if were us that tower would have been hit by a JDAM on hour one and knocked out. They’re stuck using arty and their logistics aren’t warfighters. Hell, they were trying to take and hold territory with airborne troops without having air superiority. Nobody does that ever, because it’s a sure fire way to get some of your best troops killed, which it did. Simply put, they don’t have the force projection capabilities that they needed, and even resorting to total war they’re still not advancing at the pace they need to in order to guarantee a victory. The map you’re using is confusing holding MSRs with holding large swaths of terrain. And even after Russia destroys every building in Ukraine they still won't be able to safely step outside to smoke a cigarette. The war will have been so much easier than the occupation.
March 2, 20223 yr Of course, we are learning to take all this stuff with a grain of salt as they seem quite optimistic.
March 2, 20223 yr Pentagon official says Russian troops have 'deliberately punched holes' in their own gas tanks 'presumably' to avoid combat as morale declines: report https://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-official-says-russian-troops-213818317.html Nice, if true. Grain of salt time.
March 2, 20223 yr Why haven't the Russians taken the skies? They certainly have the capability. Did they really underestimate the resistance they would face? Seems foolish in the extreme to start a ground war, not owning the skies.
March 2, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Thrive said: Of course, we are learning to take all this stuff with a grain of salt as they seem quite optimistic. Gorlovka looks like it's just northeast of Donetsk (the city not Oblosk). South-southeast of Kharkiv.
March 2, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, TEW said: This really is a grand vision move. A true empire building move. They’ll get plenty of benefit up front: food, warm water ports, a buffer zone with NATO, etc. but it’s really about rebuilding a Russian empire and Putin’s historical legacy. Sanctions don’t matter to him in that context. They already have warm water ports. Ukraine is there buffer zone that wasn’t going to join NATO. What food? Sunflower seeds? Russia already has access to all the seas Ukraine does. This will be a net loss for Russia. Congratulations you picked up more sea ports that lead to Turkey, Romania, and Bulgaria while not being able to trade with them. Genius move!!!
March 2, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, Bill said: She’s like the female Dan Quayle. He’s not steamrolling. He’s behind his own timeline. Kyiv should have been take. Last week. Except it’s not going well for him. It’s not going well for the Ukrainians, but it’s not going well for him either. He gambled that he could shock and awe with only light infantry, without using the combined arms that shock and awe requires. Russia doesn’t have the stockpile of precision munitions that we had in Iraq either. They have essentially none left. Which is why the Kyiv transmission tower was being targeted by indirect fire. If if were us that tower would have been hit by a JDAM on hour one and knocked out. They’re stuck using arty and their logistics aren’t warfighters. Hell, they were trying to take and hold territory with airborne troops without having air superiority. Nobody does that ever, because it’s a sure fire way to get some of your best troops killed, which it did. Simply put, they don’t have the force projection capabilities that they needed, and even resorting to total war they’re still not advancing at the pace they need to in order to guarantee a victory. The map you’re using is confusing holding MSRs with holding large swaths of terrain. Plus, if the numbers we are getting are correct, they’ve lost more lives in a week than we did in 20 years in Iraq (and are getting dangerously close to hitting our combined losses in both Afghanistan and Iraq).
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