March 2, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: I did. I told you idiots that there were conditions which would lead to Russia's intervention. Artillery on the civilians in Donbas was the trip wire.
March 2, 20223 yr So the 70 planes Europe was supposed to donate to Ukraine was more of a "Ukraine announced that this was happening" and those countries were like "oh, we are?" situation. There was some preliminary dialogue but Ukraine being desperate made the announcement and put Poland and others in a bit of a bind. Pretty underhanded, but in their position I can understand. They're working through some particulars. Hopefully the Ukrainian air force is able to reassert itself soon.
March 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Seriously dude? I know you're a lowlife troll, but sharing propaganda and giving aid to the Putin regime seems low even for you.
March 2, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: Seriously dude? I know you're a lowlife troll, but sharing propaganda and giving aid to the Putin regime seems low even for you. He's been doing it for the last few days.
March 2, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Of course the discussion is about crude oil products, but feel free to widen that search field as far as you need to to defend Pop Pop's ridiculously damaging policies. The US has never been a net exporter of crude oil. So if that’s the point that Procus and you are trying to make then you’re both extremely misled. The US has only in the past two years been a net exporter of petroleum products including crude oil and refined products. Thanks for playing. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/12/09/no-the-u-s-is-not-a-net-exporter-of-crude-oil/?sh=1e3502954ac1
March 2, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: He's been doing it for the last few years. I'm bringing FYP back
March 2, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: He's been doing it for the last few days. This one seems to be overt on a new level. Or I just skipped over them.
March 2, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: So the 70 planes Europe was supposed to donate to Ukraine was more of a "Ukraine announced that this was happening" and those countries were like "oh, we are?" situation. There was some preliminary dialogue but Ukraine being desperate made the announcement and put Poland and others in a bit of a bind. Pretty underhanded, but in their position I can understand. They're working through some particulars. Hopefully the Ukrainian air force is able to reassert itself soon. Yeah, so it's ok for Putin to attack Ukraine from another country but, Ukraine can't take off Jets from another country. Death to Putin.
March 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, barho said: The US has never been a net exporter of crude oil. So if that’s the point that Procus and you are trying to make then you’re both extremely misled. The US has only in the past two years been a net exporter of petroleum products including crude oil and refined products. Thanks for playing. https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2018/12/09/no-the-u-s-is-not-a-net-exporter-of-crude-oil/?sh=1e3502954ac1 We're the #1 refiner in the world. And a good chunk of the oil we refine is from Canada. Which is why the whole import/export gets complicated. Edit: but yes, we'll almost never be a net exporter of crude because we refine it ourselves. We import excess crude from other countries to refine, which results in one of the few situations where American jobs use raw materials from other nations to make something.
March 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Seriously dude? I know you're a lowlife troll, but sharing propaganda and giving aid to the Putin regime seems low even for you. They more neatly fit the definition of "treasonists" with each passing day.
March 2, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, mayanh8 said: Really? Seeing the usual MAGA crowd cheerlead for Putin and the invasion of Ukraine is probably one of the least surprising things I've seen. 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm not. People's true colors are showing. I usually bang heads with most of you on politics when I'm in CVON section, but rooting for Ukraine should be pretty universal.
March 2, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: My mom likes Kahlua in her white Russians .. she's a retired boomer, should I worry she's secretly a black Russian troll? Because white russians have Kahlua? It's a black Russian + milk (or cream)
March 2, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: I usually bang heads with most of you on politics when I'm in CVON section, but rooting for Ukraine should be pretty universal. I always respected the fact that after Trump lost you came back and tipped your cap rather than running off and hiding until some opportune moment.
March 2, 20223 yr I spoke with my Ukrainian colleague today. He's from Kyiv and all of his family and friends are still there. He's quite worried of course but hanging in. All the communication he does with them is over Telegram which is quite ironic since Telegram is a Russian made app. This dude is a dev guy and sits in a landscape. There is a Russian dude on the other side of the room. Not sure how they feel about each other.
March 2, 20223 yr Just now, dawkins4prez said: Because white russians have Kahlua? It's a black Russian + milk (or cream) I have no idea. I just throw vodka, Kahlua, and a dash of milk in a glass and repeat until my mother is tolerable.
March 2, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: I usually bang heads with most of you on politics when I'm in CVON section, but rooting for Ukraine should be pretty universal. Ditto.
March 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: I spoke with my Ukrainian colleague today. He's from Kyiv and all of his family and friends are still there. He's quite worried of course but hanging in. All the communication he does with them is over Telegram which is quite ironic since Telegram is a Russian made app. This dude is a dev guy and sits in a landscape. There is a Russian dude on the other side of the room. Not sure how they feel about each other. One if the tragic things about this is that in an individual level most Ukrainians and Russians feel some modicum of brotherhood. It's a bit mixed because a lot of Ukrainians harbor understandable ill will towards Russia even before this, but if the Russian guy acknowledges the sins of their govt most individuals come to an easy common ground of "our gov't is crap, but you are my cousin" Russians that peddle the govt line are unsalvageable though.
March 2, 20223 yr Just now, DaEagles4Life said: So... Throw a zero on the end to get the right number?
March 2, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: One if the tragic things about this is that in an individual level most Ukrainians and Russians feel some modicum of brotherhood. Yeah, I was thinking about this yesterday. When you consider the history of their longstanding ethnic and cultural ties, this feels like a civil war.
March 2, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Sounds a lot like the kind of delusion and denialism we see here with the far right. Rest assured, the exact same thing would be playing out here if some kind of civil conflict broke out. Putin has successfully exported these cultural and political phenomena to the U.S., mostly thanks to one particular stooge.
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