March 3, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Oh I would have? Ok, tell me what else happens in this pretend world where Biden is an effective POTUS.... It's not a pretend world. He literally made good on Trump's promise in Afghanistan and you roasted him for it. Do you even read the stupid words you type?
March 3, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Wrong. Try again. You can do this. He can't even bring himself to acknowledge Biden agreed with Trump. It's like he thinks he'll get AIDS from typing the words.
March 3, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: While it's a great book, I know now the Russian Military isn't capable of defeating NATO in conventional warfare. But back then they were feared. Not anymore. That was definitely a fun read. Pretty sure Clancy predicted the US stealth aircraft program in it before it was made public.
March 3, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: He didnt take enough preventative measures and had to react. Just like Afghanistan. Knew it was coming, didnt adequately plan and thought he could rely on international partners (or magic, who knows), and as a result has been relegated to reacting and not leading. And again, if Ukraine wasnt fighting tooth and nail this would have been yet another international blunder The guys a failure Ah right, so he did do the preventative measures you're implying he never did, but now we'll move the goalposts to just "not enough" of them. But sure, blaming Biden for your buddy's invasion of Ukraine is very much on-brand, Mikhail.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Trump would have agreed not to admit Ukraine into NATO forever. Giving Putin what he wanted on sliver platter. That might have actually been a diplomatic solution though. If you could get a treaty that barred NATO admittance in exchange for a non-aggression concession, there is a chance (definitely not a certainty) that Putin would have agreed. The "Ukraine question” as Putin and the Russians refer to it would have likely come up again at some point, but it might have preserved peace for a a couple decades.
March 3, 20223 yr Ukraine says pact reached with Russia to create safe corridors backed by cease-fires for evacuations, aid: Live updates https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-million-refugees-fled-ukraine-080919844.html Ukraine said it has agreed with Russia to create safe corridors backed by cease-fires to evacuate civilians and deliver aid as a second round of negotiations began Thursday amid Russia's ferocious assault on its neighbor. Officials from both nations are meeting in Belarus as the war entered its second week. Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded Ukraine accept "demilitarization," declare itself neutral and drop its bid to join NATO. ***Ukraine Should accept Putin's Deal. As long as the current Government remains free and democratic what's to lose. Then start arming themselves covertly.
March 3, 20223 yr Just now, TEW said: That might have actually been a diplomatic solution though. If you could get a treaty that barred NATO admittance in exchange for a non-aggression concession, there is a chance (definitely not a certainty) that Putin would have agreed. The "Ukraine question” as Putin and the Russians refer to it would have likely come up again at some point, but it might have preserved peace for a a couple decades. No, it wouldn't have. Because it's Putin who wants to put the band back together. He would have invaded Ukraine before he dies, and he's no spring chicken. Russia agreed not to invade Ukraine when they gave up their nukes. No reason to believe Russia can be trusted.
March 3, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: No, it wouldn't have. Because it's Putin who wants to put the band back together. He would have invaded Ukraine before he dies, and he's no spring chicken. Russia agreed not to invade Ukraine when they gave up their nukes. No reason to believe Russia can be trusted. Yeah, believe me, I fully get his ambitions. But there is a lot of "work” to be done to realize Putin’s vision. Part of the reason for this timing is Putin felt any more delays and the opportunity would be lost and Ukraine would join the EU and NATO. If you prolong that window in his eyes, he might have focused his attention elsewhere. Not saying it’s a certainty — far from it — but it was a possibility.
March 3, 20223 yr https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-03-22/h_e27835f2bd93d456654860007dfae0b0 Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday said the war in Ukraine was "going according to plan," despite defense assessments from other countries. "The special military operation in Ukraine is going according to plan, in strict accordance with the schedule," Putin said, using the euphemism the Kremlin uses to describe the invasion of Ukraine. "Genius"
March 3, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, TEW said: That might have actually been a diplomatic solution though. If you could get a treaty that barred NATO admittance in exchange for a non-aggression concession, there is a chance (definitely not a certainty) that Putin would have agreed. The "Ukraine question” as Putin and the Russians refer to it would have likely come up again at some point, but it might have preserved peace for a a couple decades. Yeah, totally. That worked out so well last time. I'm sure this time they'll really mean it. Maybe we just need to put in a No-Take-Backsies clause and make sure he's not crossing his fingers behind his back when he signs it.
March 3, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Yeah, totally. That worked out so well last time. I'm sure this time he'll really mean it. Maybe we just need to put in a No-Take-Backsies clause and make sure he's not crossing his fingers behind his back when he signs it. if Biden had agreed to it he would be compared to Neville Chamberlain. and for good reason.
March 3, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Kz! said: Another fantastic piece by Tucker: He simply doesn't miss. This is a next level troll post.
March 3, 20223 yr besides the fact that prior to this Ukraine was nowhere near joining NATO. they may have wanted to, but there was virtually no support for admitting Ukraine to NATO in the West. because the West knew that could lead to war with Russia.
March 3, 20223 yr Just now, barho said: This is a next level troll post. Yep. And who cares what the Racist POS Tucker Carlson has to say. His opinions are irrelevant and meaningless and only meant to incite people like kkkz.
March 3, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, believe me, I fully get his ambitions. But there is a lot of "work” to be done to realize Putin’s vision. Part of the reason for this timing is Putin felt any more delays and the opportunity would be lost and Ukraine would join the EU and NATO. If you prolong that window in his eyes, he might have focused his attention elsewhere. Not saying it’s a certainty — far from it — but it was a possibility. TEW: "Putin's plan all along was to take back Ukraine. It was his life's ambition, the jewel of his eye. He's even willing to sacrifice Russia's standing on the global stage for it. This whole invasion is a stroke of genius, a perfectly calculated plan by a rational actor with imperialistic ambitions." Also TEW: "If you wait a couple years, he might get sudden onset ADD and get distracted by other things and forget about Ukraine entirely."
March 3, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: TEW: "Putin's plan all along was to take back Ukraine. It was his life's ambition, the jewel of his eye. He's even willing to sacrifice Russia's standing on the global stage for it. This whole invasion is a stroke of genius, a perfectly calculated plan by a rational actor with imperialistic ambitions." Also TEW: "If you wait a couple years, he might get sudden onset ADD and get distracted by other things and forget about Ukraine entirely." He and other Russian imperialists want a Eurasian empire. There’s more to it than just Ukraine even if Ukraine is the ultimate goal. Like I said, the issue would come up again in the future but you could potentially kick the can down the road to a point when the west was stronger.
March 3, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: if Biden had agreed to it he would be compared to Neville Chamberlain. and for good reason. Not at all. Or, at least not by anyone with common sense.
March 3, 20223 yr 31 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: ***Ukraine Should accept Putin's Deal. As long as the current Government remains free and democratic what's to lose. Then start arming themselves covertly. Are these your words? Because that seems like a terrible idea.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Outlaw said: Or you've just always been one like Romney. I don't get it.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: I don't get it. Meaning Romney didn't have to snub Trump to be considered a RINO...he was already thought of as one.
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: Are these your words? Because that seems like a terrible idea. Yep. Just an idea to try and end the war.
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