March 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Yep. Just an idea to try and end the war. I don't think you can trust Putin to abide by any deal. I think this would crush morale in Ukraine, and as soon as they give up the advantage, Putin will do everything he can to crack down on any covert activity. This an attempted power play to continue playing the long game.
March 3, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Meaning Romney didn't have to snub Trump to be considered a RINO...he was already thought of as one. Not really, or at least nearly as much back when the party was actually sane. He was literally the nominee in the previous election, and he would've been a great president. Look no further as to how intellectually bankrupt the current party is than to see how reviled a guy like Romney is among so-called "conservatives." Makes me sick.
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Not so sure about that, or at least nearly as much back when the party was actually sane. He was literally the nominee in the previous election, and he would've been a great president. Look no further as to how intellectually bankrupt the current party is than to see how reviled a guy like Romney is among so-called "conservatives." Makes me sick. I voted for him. I like Romney, and still do. Just saying, to the party members (not necessarily the constituents), he looked like a RINO even prior to Trump's presidency.
March 3, 20223 yr Just now, Outlaw said: I voted for him. I like Romney, and still do. Just saying, to the party members (not necessarily the constituents), he looked like a RINO even prior to Trump's presidency. Plot twist: me too
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I voted for him. I like Romney, and still do. Just saying, to the party members (not necessarily the constituents), he looked like a RINO even prior to Trump's presidency. Which makes no sense, since he's far more conservative than Trump. If he's only a Republican in name, despite being more ideologically in line with the Republican Party, then what is a Republican?
March 3, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I voted for him. I like Romney, and still do. Just saying, to the party members (not necessarily the constituents), he looked like a RINO even prior to Trump's presidency. I voted Johnson in that election. In hindsight I should have voted Romney, and so should a lot of others. If nothing else we would have avoided Trump, and Romney likely would have been more hawkish against Russia. (For that matter if Hillary had been elected in 2016 we would have probably had the most hawkish Putin foe possible among most recent contenders. But her emails.)
March 3, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I voted for him. I like Romney, and still do. Just saying, to the party members (not necessarily the constituents), he looked like a RINO even prior to Trump's presidency. Only because those party members are idiots. And unfortunately, the idiots have grown, were emboldened, and are pushing out what few sane members are/were still present.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Which makes no sense, since he's far more conservative than Trump. If he's only a Republican in name, despite being more ideologically in line with the Republican Party, then what is a Republican? Probably because he was too much a technocrat. Relying on experts and facts puts him pretty out of step with a lot of Republican voters.
March 3, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Which makes no sense, since he's far more conservative than Trump. If he's only a Republican in name, despite being more ideologically in line with the Republican Party, then what is a Republican? It's been a while but I remember people pointing out that he was gov of Massachusetts and they have Obamacare-lite that he signed into law.
March 3, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Meaning Romney didn't have to snub Trump to be considered a RINO...he was already thought of as one. Funny, because he seems much more conservative than many of the newer, popular members of the GOP.
March 3, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Probably because he was too much a technocrat. Relying on experts and facts puts him pretty out of step with a lot of Republican voters. Yup, the right really hates people who know things.
March 3, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Which makes no sense, since he's far more conservative than Trump. If he's only a Republican in name, despite being more ideologically in line with the Republican Party, then what is a Republican? Completely agreed. And I don't know who can answer that question anymore. 9 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I voted Johnson in that election. In hindsight I should have voted Romney, and so should a lot of others. If nothing else we would have avoided Trump, and Romney likely would have been more hawkish against Russia. (For that matter if Hillary had been elected in 2016 we would have probably had the most hawkish Putin foe possible among most recent contenders. But her emails.) I think Paul Ryan turned more people away from voting for Romney than Romney did himself. 9 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Because he's a RINO of course Nah...just see you as more of a centrist.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Outlaw said: Nah...just see you as more of a centrist. I prefer moderate
March 3, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Only because those party members are idiots. And unfortunately, the idiots have grown, were emboldened, and are pushing out what few sane members are/were still present. No doubt. The extremist ends of both parties have too loud of voices. 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: Funny, because he seems much more conservative than many of the newer, popular members of the GOP. 100% Just now, Paul852 said: I prefer moderate Fair enough.
March 3, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Outlaw said: Meaning Romney didn't have to snub Trump to be considered a RINO...he was already thought of as one. The "R" in Rino means republican, not Trump supporter.
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, paco said: It's been a while but I remember people pointing out that he was gov of Massachusetts and they have Obamacare-lite Obamacare was based on a Republican plan that retained private healthcare insurers as an alternative to a single payer type plan like Hillarycare. The Massachusetts plan was based on the same I believe. It was only when Democrats settled on a plan that retained the private insurance market and abandoned single-payer as politically infeasible for the ACA that Republicans decided even their plan was too "socialist" or whatever.
March 3, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: The "R" in Rino means republican, not Trump supporter. I agree. I'm saying, I remember reading comments like that about him prior to 2016.
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Outlaw said: I think Paul Ryan turned more people away from voting for Romney than Romney did himself. Ironically I thought Ryan was the stronger part of the ticket back in 2012. Given how Ryan ended up ... I guess I whiffed.
March 3, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Kz! said: We didn't deserve him. But yeah, Trump's Putin's puppet Trumpbot.
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