February 2, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Beating back U.S. puppets and terrorists isn't a land grab. Mmk comrade. That's totally an accurate read on Crimea. Seek help.
February 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Mmk comrade. That's totally an accurate read on Crimea. Seek help. You have no idea what you're talking about. How is Crimea a land grab when not a single tank, soldier or airplane crossed into Crimea in 2014? The Russian military was already there! Crimea is, has been, and always will be a part of Russia. Deal with it.
February 2, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, DrPhilly said: They want access to sea routes, duh Yep, and Putin wants to re-establish the former Soviet Union. Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are next.
February 2, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Russia's coastlines touch three oceans. Warm ports, duh
February 2, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Crimea is, has been, and always will be a part of Russia. Deal with it. Uh Huh, except when it was controlled by Germany and then by Ukraine. But keep defending Russia. Trump would be proud.
February 2, 20223 yr 15 hours ago, Toty said: sounds like you guys have it all under control Ukraine is a sitting duck. It is weak!
February 2, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: You have no idea what you're talking about. says the guy who claims Crimea has been part of Russia because Russia had a military presence Ukraine was effectively a puppet state of Russia until Yanukovich was booted during the Ukrainian revolution. Crimea was absolutely a part of Ukraine, but since Ukraine rejected being a puppet state Russia decided it would annex what was internationally recognized as part of Ukraine. Crimea is full of native Russians, and obviously has/had a heavy Russian military presence due to its access to the Black Sea. That doesn't mean it was "always part of Russia" - it was a part of Ukraine that Russia soft-annexed during the days of the Soviet Union that it decided was too important to let go when Ukraine was no longer under Russia's control.
February 2, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jsdarkstar said: Uh Huh, except when it was controlled by Germany and then by Ukraine. But keep defending Russia. Trump would be proud. A German occupation doesn't negate the facts. Possession by thieves does not change ownership.
February 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: A German occupation doesn't negate the facts. Possession by thieves does not change ownership. True or false: the Crimean Peninsula was part of Ukraine when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991?
February 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: True or false: the Crimean Peninsula was part of Ukraine when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991? False. It was part of the United Lizardman Federation (ULF).
February 2, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: says the guy who claims Crimea has been part of Russia because Russia had a military presence Ukraine was effectively a puppet state of Russia until Yanukovich was booted during the Ukrainian revolution. Crimea was absolutely a part of Ukraine, but since Ukraine rejected being a puppet state Russia decided it would annex what was internationally recognized as part of Ukraine. Crimea is full of native Russians, and obviously has/had a heavy Russian military presence due to its access to the Black Sea. That doesn't mean it was "always part of Russia" - it was a part of Ukraine that Russia soft-annexed during the days of the Soviet Union that it decided was too important to let go when Ukraine was no longer under Russia's control. Crimea has been part of Russia since Russia became a nation in the 8th century. The fact that a Soviet government put Crimea under the administration of Ukraine for a period does not change that fact.
February 2, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: True or false: the Crimean Peninsula was part of Ukraine when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991? Let's not forget about who else controlled Crimea. Trumpers believe it was always Russian, which is historically inaccurate. Its southern fringe was colonised by the Greeks and then ruled by the Persians followed by the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and finally successor states including the Empire of Trebizond and Principality of Theodoro. During the entirety of this period the urban areas were Greek-speaking and eventually eastern Christian (Eastern Orthodox). During the collapse of the Byzantine state some cities fell to its creditor, the Republic of Genoa, until eventually all were absorbed by the rapidly rising Ottoman Empire. Throughout this time the interior was occupied by a changing cast of invading steppe nomads and empires, such as the Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Crimean Goths, Alans, Bulgars, Huns, Khazars, Kipchaks, Mongols, and the Golden Horde. Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate, a sometime dependency of the Ottomans, during the 15th to 18th century, and often raided south Russia for slaves. In 1954, the Soviet Union transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.[5] The transfer to Ukraine was made by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, a Ukrainian by birth. The year 1954 happened to mark the 300th anniversary of the Treaty of Pereyaslav, which was signed in 1654 by representatives of the Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate and Tsar Alexis of Russia.[6] With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was reestablished as an independent state in 1991, and most of the peninsula was reorganized as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and the city of Sevastopol retained its special status within Ukraine.
February 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Toty said: Only a member of the Lizardman Liberation Front (LLF) would say that. Ahhhh good try, but I'm not falling for it. We both know the ULF and the LLF have been at war with each other for several thousand years now.
February 2, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: True or false: the Crimean Peninsula was part of Ukraine when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991? A relic of the Soviet Union. There's a reason Crimea was full of Russian military despite the boundaries drawn at the fall of an empire.
February 2, 20223 yr https://www.c6f.navy.mil/Press-Room/News/Article/2854472/uss-arleigh-burke-enters-the-black-sea-in-support-of-nato-allies-and-partners/ USS Arleigh Burke Enters the Black Sea in Support of NATO Allies and Partners "Now, more than ever, we stand firmly alongside our NATO allies and partners in the Black Sea region,” said Cmdr. Patrick Chapman, Arleigh Burke’s commanding officer. "USS Arleigh Burke serves as a proud symbol of the U.S. Navy’s commitment to freedom and maritime security around the globe.” U.S. Sixth Fleet flagship USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20) and fellow Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Porter (DDG 78) recently completed operations in the Black Sea, working with regional allies and partners, including Bulgaria, Georgia, Romania, Turkey, and Ukraine throughout their time in the area.
February 2, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toty said: If you knew your history you'd know they've been fighting a proxy war through the newts and salamanders. I don't consider that limited skirmish in Connecticut as the true start to the war.
February 2, 20223 yr Did everyone notice the live shots of US soldiers in Poland standing at attention for the national anthem before the Chiefs/Bengals game?
February 2, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Let's not forget about who else controlled Crimea. Trumpers believe it was always Russian, which is historically inaccurate. Its southern fringe was colonised by the Greeks and then ruled by the Persians followed by the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and finally successor states including the Empire of Trebizond and Principality of Theodoro. During the entirety of this period the urban areas were Greek-speaking and eventually eastern Christian (Eastern Orthodox). During the collapse of the Byzantine state some cities fell to its creditor, the Republic of Genoa, until eventually all were absorbed by the rapidly rising Ottoman Empire. Throughout this time the interior was occupied by a changing cast of invading steppe nomads and empires, such as the Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Crimean Goths, Alans, Bulgars, Huns, Khazars, Kipchaks, Mongols, and the Golden Horde. Crimea and adjacent territories were united in the Crimean Khanate, a sometime dependency of the Ottomans, during the 15th to 18th century, and often raided south Russia for slaves. In 1954, the Soviet Union transferred Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.[5] The transfer to Ukraine was made by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, a Ukrainian by birth. The year 1954 happened to mark the 300th anniversary of the Treaty of Pereyaslav, which was signed in 1654 by representatives of the Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate and Tsar Alexis of Russia.[6] With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was reestablished as an independent state in 1991, and most of the peninsula was reorganized as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, and the city of Sevastopol retained its special status within Ukraine. All of this to say, Crimea sits on an important access point in the middle of the Black Sea, linking them to the Mediterranean, Europe, and beyond. That's why so many people for thousands of years have been interested in this place. Hence the conflict.
February 2, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: Did everyone notice the live shots of US soldiers in Poland standing at attention for the national anthem before the Chiefs/Bengals game? Nope. But US is increasing Military Presence in Poland.
February 2, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, jsdarkstar said: Nope. But US is increasing Military Presence in Poland. It wasn’t a coincidence. The fly over was also a squad of Warthog tank busters. They have used those before in KC as there are some based nearby but still feels like part of a message.
February 2, 20223 yr Biden to allow Russian weapons inspectors to inspect NATO bases. Quote Biden offers Putin access to NATO bases: President says he will let Russians verify that there are no US Tomahawk cruise missiles in Romania or Poland to ease tensions President Joe Biden has offered Russia access to NATO bases and said he would discuss a way to allow Moscow to verify the US does not have Tomahawk cruise missiles at bases in Romania or Poland
February 2, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said: It wasn’t a coincidence. The fly over was also a squad of Warthog tank busters. Yeah, there was a post on Facebook about how Russia has 12,000 tanks. (mostly T-72) and I posted that the US has Javelin Missiles, Apache Helicopters, Warthogs as well as Abrams tanks to handle the volume. Some people roasted me about the Warthog as an old and ineffective aircraft and that russian anti aircraft missiles like the S4 would take them out. Some folks just don't know what the planes purpose is.
February 2, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Biden to allow Russian weapons inspectors to inspect NATO bases. Putin's fear is based on hysteria. But hey if he wants to take a look. Let him. But we better hide the UFO's first. LOL.
February 2, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, Boogyman said: Ahhhh good try, but I'm not falling for it. We both know the ULF and the LLF have been at war with each other for several thousand years now. millions
February 2, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, The_Omega said: Biden to allow Russian weapons inspectors to inspect NATO bases. The outrage
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