February 13, 20223 yr 41 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: The point here is the "political control and influence" that Russia can apply on Germany. That's the issue. That's why the US doesn't want the pipeline. The economy is just the vessel. BS! When has Russia demanded political concessions in exchange for gas deliveries? It's the West that uses sanctions as a political weapon. They do so openly.
February 13, 20223 yr Author 15 hours ago, Bill said: Funny, because when the A-10 was first fielded people hated it because the terrain following radar kept killing pilots when it would slam the plane into mountainsides. Also you can’t ramp up production of the A-10 because the line is closed. We got what we got. Shows that you know D about military aircraft and aircraft procurement. Dude fell right into it
February 13, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Russia is prepared to act if the Ukrainian army moves on Donbas. They've said this repeatedly. They deny any plans to invade just for the hell of it. They deny that these forces are "on the border". The facts back them up. Sorry if this bursts the neo-con warmonger bubble. Yeah, you're siding with the country telling Ukraine it cannot secure its own sovereign territory. You're absurd.
February 13, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: BS! When has Russia demanded political concessions in exchange for gas deliveries? It's the West that uses sanctions as a political weapon. They do so openly. This may be the most stupid post you've made in here in this thread and that's really saying something. If I was your handler I don't think I'd pay you this month. You're supposed to stay within the vicinity of logic at minimum. You will likely need to re-cert if you drop your guard again.
February 13, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Yeah, you're siding with the country telling Ukraine it cannot secure its own sovereign territory. You're absurd. Was it absurd in Yugoslavia? Was it absurd in Chechnya? NATO had no problem supporting breakaway republics when it suits their agenda. You're a hypocrite.
February 13, 20223 yr Given the historical record and the cultural norms of the countries in question, the country we should give the middle finger to is Russia. Putin is one of the last KGB babies, and his desire for the rebirth of the Soviet Union is no secret. Territorial expansion is one of his strongest desires, and the Ukraine remains an important piece to bring back into the fold. He's going to fail, but he'll create a good bit of turmoil in the meantime. The former eastern block countries aren't openly engaged in strategies for territorial expansion. Only Russia is, as expected.
February 13, 20223 yr Russia is forging an alliance with China to form a powerful Eurasian bloc while the fools in the West are still caught up in cold war rhetoric. Europe will become a festering backwater as more and more nations abandon the sick ideology crippling the West.
February 13, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Russia is forging an alliance with China to form a powerful Eurasian bloc while the fools in the West are still caught up in cold war rhetoric. Europe will become a festering backwater as more and more nations abandon the sick ideology crippling the West. There you go. That's more of the standard boiler plate stuff you got in your training.
February 14, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Russia is forging an alliance with China to form a powerful Eurasian bloc while the fools in the West are still caught up in cold war rhetoric. Europe will become a festering backwater as more and more nations abandon the sick ideology crippling the West. The pravda is much appreciated, tovarich.
February 14, 20223 yr On 2/12/2022 at 12:25 PM, mihailo said: I think the issue you have to take into consideration here is that there is a vast population of Russians in parts of Ukraine. It isn't solely a matter of this is my land, this is your land, one has to also take note that Russia is obliged to protect its citizens, around 8 million to be exact. This was the same excuse the Germans used for moving into Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland.
February 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: This was the same excuse the Germans used for moving into Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. Austria was annexed by Germany without a fight. The Germans may have intimidated Austria into capitulating but the situation is not comparable to Ukraine, at all. The Germans invaded Poland claiming that Poland had attacked Germany. The Germans staged several false flag attacks making it look like the Poles were responsible. Germany claimed to defend German citizens in Germany, not Poland. Again, not comparable. Besides, no matter how much U.S. propaganda is spewed by the CIA press, Russia is demanding a peaceful resolution to an internal Ukrainian conflict according to the Minsk agreements. The Minsk agreement would maintain the Donbas as part of Ukraine- albeit under a federal system. The idea Russia wants to occupy Ukraine is a load of crap!
February 14, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Russia is forging an alliance with China to form a powerful Eurasian bloc while the fools in the West are still caught up in cold war rhetoric. Europe will become a festering backwater as more and more nations abandon the sick ideology crippling the West. Russia will never be a full fledged ally of China. Their interests diverge and conflict in several areas.
February 14, 20223 yr Putin will invade and install his hand picked puppet to power. That's the goal.
February 14, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Austria was annexed by Germany without a fight. The Germans may have intimidated Austria into capitulating but the situation is not comparable to Ukraine, at all. The Germans invaded Poland claiming that Poland had attacked Germany. The Germans staged several false flag attacks making it look like the Poles were responsible. Germany claimed to defend German citizens in Germany, not Poland. Again, not comparable. Besides, no matter how much U.S. propaganda is spewed by the CIA press, Russia is demanding a peaceful resolution to an internal Ukrainian conflict according to the Minsk agreements. The Minsk agreement would maintain the Donbas as part of Ukraine- albeit under a federal system. The idea Russia wants to occupy Ukraine is a load of crap!
February 14, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Russia will never be a full fledged ally of China. Their interests diverge and conflict in several areas. I don't know how you define "fully fledged" but they seem to be drawing closer in just about every conceivable way that they can. Strategic, military, economic and diplomatic cooperation is off the charts.
February 14, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: I don't know how you define "fully fledged" but they seem to be drawing closer in just about every conceivable way that they can. Strategic, military, economic and diplomatic cooperation is off the charts. I think right now what we're seeing with Russia and China is a convergence of certain interests at the moment. But their relationship is complex. This was a good read if you're interested: https://ecfr.eu/publication/its-complicated-russias-tricky-relationship-with-china/ It’s complicated: Russia’s tricky relationship with China Policy Brief 17 December 2021
February 14, 20223 yr Zelensky on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/100007211555008/videos/351322166849113/ Quote Great people of a great country! There have been serious external and internal challenges in front of our country, which require responsibility, confidence and concrete actions from me and each of us. We are intimidated by a great war and once again set the date of the military invasion. This is not the first time. But our state is stronger today than ever. We strive for peace and want to solve all issues exclusively through negotiations. And Donbass, and Crimea will return to Ukraine. Only in a diplomatic way. We don't stare at someone else's, but we won't give our own. We have an amazing army. Our boys have unique combat experience and modern weapons. This is already times stronger than the army eight years ago. We are confident in our armed forces, and our military too should feel our support, our togetherness and our unity. The basis of our army is the confidence of our own people and a strong economy. We are told that February 16 will be the day of attack. We will make it a union day. The decree has already been signed. This afternoon we will hang national flags, put on blue-yellow ribbons and show the world our unity. We have one great European aspiration. We want freedom and are ready to vote for it. 14 thousand defenders and civilians who died in this war are watching us from the sky. And we will not betray their memory. We all want to live happily, and happiness loves the strong. We have never been able to give up and we are not going to learn that. Love Ukraine! We are at peace! We are strong! We are together!
February 14, 20223 yr 47 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Looks like that was a load of crap, Sciutto deleted that tweet, the pentagon just said they are not sure if Putin has made a decision, garbage media we have in this country.
February 14, 20223 yr You can tell the media has moved on from Covid, that just is not getting ratings anymore
February 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: Looks like that was a load of crap, Sciutto deleted that tweet, the pentagon just said they are not sure if Putin has made a decision, garbage media we have in this country. Apparently, Zelensky thinks he is hilarious.
February 14, 20223 yr Whether or not Russia attacks on Wednesday, Zelensky is asking for Feb. 16 to be a national unity day.
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