Watching Trumpbots in this thread dance around saying what they mean is F’ing hilarious. 

3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Watching Trumpbots in this thread dance around saying what they mean is F’ing hilarious. 

Please do bestow upon us your wisdom.

You Fing keyboard monkey. 🖕

10 minutes ago, Procus said:

More like worried about our nation and the crushing blows we'd be dealt if inflation continues to spiral and food and other living costs become out of reach for many.  Excuse me if this tempers my enthusiasm for getting too entangled in this conflict.

17 minutes ago, Procus said:

I agree with the administration's refusal to send aircraft to Ukraine for starters.  But the problem I have is that all of this happened on their watch.  From where I'm sitting, Biden is to the rest of the world's jokers what Larry Krasner is to Philly's criminal element.

So again I ask, since you avoided the question, how do you jive arguing that Biden/NATO/EU etc were weak and that's why this happened, yet still argue that their response has been too aggressive? It's really gotta be one or the other my guy. Which bad take is gonna be?

3 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Please do bestow upon us your wisdom.

You Fing keyboard monkey. 🖕

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d8735b67-4bad-40f7-b0be-3ed331be4fbe

2 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

Please do bestow upon us your wisdom.

You Fing keyboard monkey. 🖕

Not you Lynched. You always dance around whatever it is you’ve conjured up in your little baby mind. 

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

Not you Lynched. You always dance around whatever it is you’ve conjured up in your little baby mind. 

That's not saying much for what you're "equipped" with.

1 hour ago, TEW said:

 
 

How do I appear to be doing that?

Pretty much right around the time you said this was a stroke of genius by Putin and everything is going according to plan.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Pretty much right around the time you said this was a stroke of genius by Putin and everything is going according to plan.

I think it's more likely a stroke of genius by China. 

13 minutes ago, lynched1 said:

That's not saying much for what you're "equipped" with.

Yeah totally 

3 hours ago, Procus said:

I would think at your core, that you abhor bigotry based on a person's nationality, and I have no doubt you would readily admit that you personally would not discriminate against somebody just because their Russian.  But it's dangerous what is going on today, and there is a casual tendency to vilify a whole group of people by many.

Wait. Now this is a problem? But when your Orange Overlord was running around calling it the China Virus and Kung Flu, that was totally cool? Sure a bunch of Asians were vilified, harassed and attacked, but whatever. 
 

What is the difference between Russians and Asians…what could it be? 

43 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

What is the difference between Russians and Asians…what could it be? 

4 hours ago, lynched1 said:

I don't because I have no interest beyond how and why we (the US) are dealing with the situation.

What are we going to be committed to?

Why are we being committed to it?

What are the repercussions? 

Go get your pom pom's. I'll sit here and watch them move the pieces on the board trying to figure out why.

 

We get involved in European wars. We have been since before we were a country, and we will be long after. 

8 hours ago, Abracadabra said:

The rest of you need to fess up like this moral degenerate.

I know. Really Fing crazy. A man being against Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Anyone can see how good this is, how great for everyone.

Except me. I just have this crazy worldview where Russia invading Ukraine over lies, is wrong.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-climate-agenda-putin-republicans

Biden’s climate agenda ‘created the perfect storm for Putin,’

Such a partisan.

Back to actual Ukraine news. Seems Ukraine is engaged in a counteroffensive:

 

 

 

 

 

 

From yesterday, but I say do it. If we're not going to intervene on the ground we need to do everything up to that line.

 

 

If Russia comes out of this with no land bridge to Crimea and with Zelensky still in power... 

I mean... what will they have gotten for their efforts? Pre-war status quo, a global embarrassment of an attempted invasion, and a cratered economy?

I can't see Putin agreeing to this.

"The tactics of the Ukrainian armed forces have adeptly exploited Russia's lack of manoeuvre, frustrating the Russian advance and inflicting heavy losses on the invading forces," the UK Ministry of Defence says in its latest update.3

Another presidential adviser, Oleksiy Arestovych, said Ukrainian forces were conducting small-scale counter attacks on several fronts.

The situation in the "main hotspots has not changed", he said, and "has no chance of changing as Russia has used up its resources".

Russian troops are continuing to fire missiles at Ukrainian targets, and approximately two-thirds of rockets are hitting civilian buildings and infrastructure, Mr Arestovych claimed in a video briefing.

The UK Ministry of Defence, meanwhile, has said Ukraine is "adeptly exploiting" Russian forces' "lack of manoeuvre" and inflicting heavy losses.

Moscow is also struggling to overcome "challenges" imposed by Ukraine's terrain, it added.

High-rise buildings have again been hit in Kyiv on Wednesday, however, and Russian troops are said to be shooting from inside a hospital in Mariupol, where about 500 people are being used as human shields.

Russian forces "doubt their ability to successfully fight for Kyiv other than demolishing it", he added, explaining why Moscow has stepped up its shelling of the capital.

But while Ukrainian forces are doing "really well", they still do not have the capability to remove the Russians completely, he said.

He expects to see a "bigger attempt on Kyiv" soon, and it could be very destructive.

The MOD, in its latest intelligence update, said Russian troops have remained largely on the road network and have "demonstrated a reluctance to conduct off-road manoeuvre".

The destruction of bridges by Ukrainian forces has also played a "key role in stalling Russia's advance".

The ministry continued: "Russia's continued failure to gain control of the air has drastically limited their ability to effectively use air manoeuvre, further limiting their options.

"The tactics of the Ukrainian armed forces have adeptly exploited Russia's lack of manoeuvre, frustrating the Russian advance and inflicting heavy losses on the invading forces."

3 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

 

Would being a "neutral country" like Austria preclude Ukraine from entering a defensive alliance with regional nations like Poland and the Baltic states?

10 hours ago, Procus said:

It's not that simple.  The repercussions of getting drawn into the conflict are significant.  Commodities pared back their gains today based on the news of prospects for a resolution.  If the West gets too involved, you don't know where this could head.  Better for cooler heads to prevail and for this to get worked out quietly.

Oh I agree.  I am loving this soft power approach.

19 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Would being a "neutral country" like Austria preclude Ukraine from entering a defensive alliance with regional nations like Poland and the Baltic states?

I'd imagine so. And now I'm reading that Zelensky has rejected it.

I know what we read on Twitter has a slight Ukrainian bias to it but the fact that Ukraine would so freely shoot that offer down has me considering that Russia may very well lose this war. And I don't just mean from a global outcome. I mean militarily speaking... which I always assumed Ukraine would eventually lose out of attrition. 

Massive.