April 6, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: I miss when this thread provided updates. Russia is going to spend the next two to four weeks moving troops around and then they’re going to launch a second offensive. Since things kicked off the focus has been on Kyiv and the north, in terms of the news. The north of the country is different than the south. North is built up and has woods and hills. Most of the images of fighting were in urban areas. Down in the steppe region it’s different. Agricultural. There’s very few areas of forested lands, it’s flat, and few built up areas. Think lines of sight of up to 4000 meters. In this area ATGMs aren’t going to be a factor like they were because there’s no place to hide and pop out with them. Javelins have a range of ~2500 meters, while a T-72 can hit a target 3-4000 meters away. In WWII there were huge tank battles here, because it’s terrain where tanks are designed to be king ish. What we saw in the last few weeks was urban armored infantry combat. What we will see is classic maneuver warfare. Warfare that hasn’t been seen in 80 years. We keep sending them Javelins, but that period is done. What they need now are tanks and planes. Lots of tanks and planes. The Russians are going to launch two prongs, one from Kharkiv, and one from Melitopol. The objective will be Dnipro. One they meet there, they will have encircled the mass of the Ukrainian ground units. The Ukrainians have two options: do a tactical withdrawal from the Donbass region, but then they’ll pretty much give up the territory and have to fight back for it, or they can put up strong defensive lines and try and keep the Russians at bay. 56 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: You're in luck. It's halftime, and the Russian army committed to northwestern Ukraine so far has retreated and is licking its wounds. Russia is looking to salvage a moral victory in the east but Ukraine's army has an easier path and support of the Western world at its back. Second half should be lit. No, the second half is going to suck hard. In football terms, Russia tried an air raid offense in the first and it didn’t work. Now they’re going to a power run game.
April 6, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, Procus said: I see you're not familiar with Israeli politics. Why don't you tell us how the PM Bennett has dealt with this. I'm quite aware of Bennett's clumsy attempts at peacemaking. Why don't you lead with your great insight? The keen eye for nuance we're all so familiar with here.
April 6, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Bill said: No, the second half is going to suck hard. In football terms, Russia tried an air raid offense in the first and it didn’t work. Now they’re going to a power run game. I tend to worry over the same, that the West is supplying Ukraine for what it needs in the second half based on what was effective in the first. But was feeding Hazelton what he wanted to hear.
April 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Man is this guy going to be surprised at the results of Abra’s investigation showing that it was actually Ukrainian not-zees that killed all those people in front of him.
April 6, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I'm quite aware of Bennett's clumsy attempts at peacemaking. Why don't you lead with your great insight? The keen eye for nuance we're all so familiar with here. Not was I was referring to. If you followed the Mideast, you'd understand that Israel is in a vice and not in a position to upset the Russians who are allowing them to conduct air strikes against Iranian targets in Syria. Other Mideast countries have taken similar positions. Go check out, for example, the Saudi position on the Ukraine war - they're calling for a de-escalation of tensions. The UAE is taking a strong stance in favor of Russia. Turkey has taken a more middle of the line approach. And further to the East, India has tacitly supported Russia. Each of these countries are acting in their own national interests.
April 6, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, 20dawk4life said: Goodfellas is the sequel to titanic after they arrive in NY and turn to a life of crime because of what they saw at sea. Well that frees up six or so hours.
April 6, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: You’re welcome Let me guess, everyone either dies or gets arrested at the end.
April 6, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, Bill said: No, the second half is going to suck hard. In football terms, Russia tried an air raid offense in the first and it didn’t work. Now they’re going to a power run game. We overdue to the football analogies because , hello, that's where we are discussing this. But yeah that's exactly how it feels. 27 pt home underdog up by a FG at halftime, with the visiting coach screaming in the locker room about abandoning the cute plays and ramming it down their throats in 2nd half.
April 6, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: We overdue to the football analogies because , hello, that's where we are discussing this. But yeah that's exactly how it feels. 27 pt home underdog up by a FG at halftime, with the visiting coach screaming in the locker room about abandoning the cute plays and ramming it down their throats in 2nd half. We all realistically know what's probably going to eventually happen. Doesn't change the fact Russia lost fairly significant amounts of men and equipment. Add to that morale and embarrassment. So I'd say along with the first half football analogy, add an injury to a fairly key player.
April 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Boogyman said: We all realistically know what's probably going to eventually happen. Doesn't change the fact Russia lost fairly significant amounts of men and equipment. Add to that morale and embarrassment. So I'd say along with the first half football analogy, add an injury to a fairly key player. Ukraine is covering that spread for sure.
April 6, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Well, to fight not-zees, you have to be worse not-zees, amirite? Did Hitler ever think of portable crematoriums?
April 6, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkins4prez said: Ukraine is covering that spread for sure. Not just covering, they're winning against all odds. I'm not sure anyone predicted they'd be faring as well as they have been.
April 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Boogyman said: Let me guess, everyone either dies or gets arrested at the end. One old beech will never die
April 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: One old beech will never die She actually died a decade ago.
April 6, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Not just covering, they're winning against all odds. I'm not sure anyone predicted they'd be faring as well as they have been. I am frankly stunned at the ineptitude of the Russians. The Ukrainians defending their territory fiercely does not surprise me. The Russians not having training, food, equipment and fuel is stunning. Stunning.
April 6, 20223 yr Poland signs $4.75 billion Abrams tank deal as Russia’s war speeds procurements https://www.yahoo.com/news/poland-signs-4-75-billion-210428578.html WARSAW, Poland — Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak on Tuesday signed a deal worth about $4.75 billion to buy 250 M1A2 Abrams SEPv3 from the United States. "We are strengthening the Polish military, and we are deterring a potential aggressor,” Błaszczak was quoted in a statement released by the ministry.
April 6, 20223 yr More tanks. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10691043/First-NATO-country-sends-tanks-Ukraine-Czech-Republic-provides-tanks-following-Zelenskys-plea.html
April 6, 20223 yr 63 Republicans vote against resolution expressing support for NATO The House overwhelmingly approved a resolution expressing support for NATO on Tuesday. The resolution passed 362-63, with support from 143 Republicans and 219 Democrats. Sixty-three members of the GOP caucus voted against the measure.
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