May 8, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Bill said: Popasnaya doesn’t exist. I’m assuming you meant Popasna. You know, the small town that is lower than the terrain around it. Is that the town? The town with no convergence of major roads or rail lines making it of no strategic value? The little village where the Ukrainians pulled back from because they realized they could get a better defensive position from the heights around it? Is that the one? This one, Patton.
May 8, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: This one, Patton. Yeah, I’m assuming it’s that town on the map that says "Popasna”. Also I take being called Patton a compliment since my grandfather was in the 35th ID from St. Lo until the end.
May 8, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Bill said: Yeah, I’m assuming it’s that town on the map that says "Popasna”. Also I take being called Patton a compliment since my grandfather was in the 35th ID from St. Lo until the end. The town is Popasnaya. It's under Russian control so.... It's literally on a hill and of strategic importance. The two sides have been fighting there for two months. The Russians achieved this victory using their own, well established tactics, not some theoretical crap devised in the desert.
May 8, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: The town is Popasnaya. It's under Russian control so.... It's literally on a hill and of strategic importance. The two sides have been fighting there for two months. The Russians achieved this victory using their own, well established tactics, not some theoretical crap devised in the desert. The land directly to the west of the town is higher than the town itself, thus it isn’t on a hill. You think because you read it on Twitter. I know because I literally viewed the town on a topographic map. The only place lower than the town is to the rear of the Russians. If they go west they literally have to attack up a hill. Also, enlighten us as to what is strategic about it since it doesn’t have any major road or rail intersections. This is the part where you can’t just pull the word "strategic” from a Twitter post and have to actually state why it’s strategic. Furthermore, you’re showing your lack of knowledge by calling it theoretical crap from the desert. As it turns out it’s applied crap from Europe and has been the basis of small unit tactics since the 1950s. Up until Germany ran into a combination of Lend-Lease and an incompetent dictator, they were making unbelievable gains across Europe by using fire teams centered around the MG-34 and later using MG-42s for support. We saw how crap the results were with the BAR and transitioned using fire teams centered around the M-60, a weapon system which has a suspicious amount in common with the MG-42. So yeah, then we took the practical crap from Europe and made it practical crap in the desert, too.
May 8, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Bill said: The land directly to the west of the town is higher than the town itself, thus it isn’t on a hill. You think because you read it on Twitter. I know because I literally viewed the town on a topographic map. The only place lower than the town is to the rear of the Russians. If they go west they literally have to attack up a hill. Also, enlighten us as to what is strategic about it since it doesn’t have any major road or rail intersections. This is the part where you can’t just pull the word "strategic” from a Twitter post and have to actually state why it’s strategic. Furthermore, you’re showing your lack of knowledge by calling it theoretical crap from the desert. As it turns out it’s applied crap from Europe and has been the basis of small unit tactics since the 1950s. Up until Germany ran into a combination of Lend-Lease and an incompetent dictator, they were making unbelievable gains across Europe by using fire teams centered around the MG-34 and later using MG-42s for support. We saw how crap the results were with the BAR and transitioned using fire teams centered around the M-60, a weapon system which has a suspicious amount in common with the MG-42. So yeah, then we took the practical crap from Europe and made it practical crap in the desert, too. If you looked at a topographical map, then you know the town is on a hill of over 1k ft. That's a good vantage point even if there are other hills in the area. This town has a railway exchange the Ukrainians used for shipments of weapons. Gone. The Ukrainians spent eight years fortifying, mining and barricading the entire area. The place was a fortress. No more. NATO trained the Ukrainians for eight years in NATO tactics. They built extensive fortifications and dug in deep. Russia is slowing wearing them down taking minimal casualties while imposing horrific, unsustainable casualties for Ukraine. The second largest NATO army is being pulverized.
May 8, 20223 yr https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/595919-62-percent-of-voters-say-putin-wouldnt-have-invaded-ukraine-if-trump/ 62 percent of voters say Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine if Trump were president: poll
May 9, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Abracadabra said: If you looked at a topographical map, then you know the town is on a hill of over 1k ft. That's a good vantage point even if there are other hills in the area. This town has a railway exchange the Ukrainians used for shipments of weapons. Gone. The Ukrainians spent eight years fortifying, mining and barricading the entire area. The place was a fortress. No more. NATO trained the Ukrainians for eight years in NATO tactics. They built extensive fortifications and dug in deep. Russia is slowing wearing them down taking minimal casualties while imposing horrific, unsustainable casualties for Ukraine. The second largest NATO army is being pulverized. Funny I didn’t know a 250m tall hill is over 1k feet. Learn something new every day. Popasna must have a commanding viewpoint to the east of Pervomais’k, the town the Russians attacked from, which sits on top of much smaller hill that is… *checks notes* …200m tall. Also Popasna doesn’t have a railway exchange. It’s a spur line that ends the next town over, bud. Hence why it’s of no tactical value to the Russians since it doesn’t allow them to use it to project any logistics capability deeper into Ukraine. 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: Me trying to find the "incursion” on that map of the front: That’s a nice Bargain Bin Battle of the Bulge the Russians have going there.
May 9, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: Voters are morons so… So, are you a moron who votes, or a moron who doesn't?
May 9, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: So, are you a moron who votes, or a moron who doesn't? A person is smart people are dumb panicky animals
May 9, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: A person is smart people are dumb panicky animals No. A person MIGHT be smart.
May 9, 20223 yr 28 minutes ago, Toastrel said: No. A person MIGHT be smart. Its a movie line, settle down old man
May 9, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said: Its a movie line, settle down old man Which does not make it any less wrong. Go put a tiny hat on your man-bun.
May 9, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, ToastJenkins said: Its a movie line, settle down old man Odd jab from a guy who played a quote from 1997.
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