6 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

 That’s the worst Freudian slip I’ve ever heard. 

Oh pop pop's had more than his share, but that was a good one

26 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Didn't the Turkey opposition get reported a few days back?  I feel like it has been ignored in the discussion I've seen of the admission recently.

I'm curious if they are a legit hard no or if Erdogan is using this to negotiate for some concession they want from the other NATO members.

it was brought up, but pretty much people see it as you do, erdogan using this to get something from nato. 

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

Oh pop pop's had more than his share, but that was a good one

And Trump’s F’ing mentally retarded but that’s not the topic at hand. 

1 minute ago, VanHammersly said:

And Trump’s F’ing mentally retarded but that’s not the topic at hand. 

Oh, he's off in a lot of ways, but he ain't stupid.  There's a big difference.

Biden was never the brightest bulb out there, even before his dementia kicked in.

Just now, Procus said:

Oh, he's off in a lot of ways, but he ain't stupid.  There's a big difference.

Biden was never the brightest bulb out there, even before his dementia kicked in.

Just now, Procus said:

Oh, he's off in a lot of ways, but he ain't stupid.  There's a big difference.

Biden was never the brightest bulb out there, even before his dementia kicked in.

 Trump is literally the dumbest MFer to ever come anywhere near the Presidency.

Your BDS is so bad it’s time the nursing home took away your computer privileges. 

2 minutes ago, Procus said:

Oh, he's off in a lot of ways, but he ain't stupid.  There's a big difference.

Biden was never the brightest bulb out there, even before his dementia kicked in.

does the idea of nuking a hurricane sound intelligent ? 

3 hours ago, Dave Moss said:

I didn’t get it either until I read this

 

That pic is BS. No way the ice cream machine wasn't broken.

43 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

Didn't the Turkey opposition get reported a few days back?  I feel like it has been ignored in the discussion I've seen of the admission recently.

I'm curious if they are a legit hard no or if Erdogan is using this to negotiate for some concession they want from the other NATO members.

Probably was answered but the general feeling is that Turkey is not ultimately going to block admission but they will squeeze it for concessions. 

Erdogon (or any Turk for that matter) isn't going to miss an opportunity to extract a price.

On 5/17/2022 at 10:28 PM, Procus said:

At the end of the day, it comes down to money and power.  Ukraine is a huge country with a lot of natural resources and is the breadbasket of Europe.  Geographically, it's a buffer state from perceived hostile powers to the West which have been steadily encroaching eastward since the breakup of the Soviet Union - against the advice of many on both sides of the aisle at the time.  Couple that up with the historical ties between Russia and Ukraine along with a perceived stumblebum in the WH who couldn't even pull out of Afghanistan without tripping over himself, and you have yourself an invasion.

(This is the one you were asking about @DrPhilly )

No it isn't.  The question is "why do you believe Putin went in when he did?, i.e. under Biden and not under Trump.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

 

So what do you guys think, is being a drunken idiot and fighting at a game the be all end all of fandom ??  I have never had the honor. 

I have been to Dallas several times, and rolled all through that city in full Eagles gear.  Does that get me at least an honorary fan nod ??

I think that if you didn’t punch a Cowboys fan in Dallas or if it didn’t at least cross your mind then you’re  not a real fan.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

No it isn't.  The question is why you believe Putin when in when he did, i.e. under Biden and not under Trump.

"Couple that up with the historical ties between Russia and Ukraine along with a perceived stumblebum in the WH who couldn't even pull out of Afghanistan without tripping over himself, and you have yourself an invasion."

That's what I believe the timing to be.  Fiona Hill thinks the timing was because Trump was stupid and that Putin wanted to invade with a smarter prez like Biden in office.  You are of course free to believe what you want, but I doubt outside the EMB you'll get much support for your opinion. 

22 minutes ago, Procus said:

"Couple that up with the historical ties between Russia and Ukraine along with a perceived stumblebum in the WH who couldn't even pull out of Afghanistan without tripping over himself, and you have yourself an invasion."

That's what I believe the timing to be.  Fiona Hill thinks the timing was because Trump was stupid and that Putin wanted to invade with a smarter prez like Biden in office.  You are of course free to believe what you want, but I doubt outside the EMB you'll get much support for your opinion. 

Again, why didn't Putin go in when Trump was in office?  You refuse to provide a reason.

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Again, why didn't Putin go in when Trump was in office?  You refuse to provide a reason.

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

Again, why didn't Putin go in when Trump was in office?  You refuse to provide a reason.

Because he knew there wasn't a weak Democrat in office.  Not so hard to figure out.  You choose to completely ignore the fact that he went into Crimea after Obama did not enforce his red line in the sand in Syria, and went into Ukraine proper after Biden grossly bungled the Afghan withdrawal.  Hard facts you choose to ignore.

You also falsely claim that Trump weakened NATO when you haven't shown anything to indicate that NATO troops, weaponry and materiel, and finances were weaker when Trump left office than when he took office.  You haven't cited a single reputable source to support your position that this was the motivating factor for Putin's Russia to invade in 2022 either. 

5 minutes ago, Procus said:

Because he knew there wasn't a weak Democrat in office.  Not so hard to figure out.  You choose to completely ignore the fact that he went into Crimea after Obama did not enforce his red line in the sand, and went into Ukraine proper after Biden grossly bungled the Afghan withdrawal.  Hard facts you choose to ignore.

You also falsely claim that Trump weakened NATO when you haven't shown anything to indicate that NATO troops, weaponry and materiel, and finances were weaker when Trump left office than when he took office.  You haven't cited a single reputable source to support this position either. 

Let me try one last time.  What about Trump prevented Putin from invading?  Don't respond by talking about someone else or democrats or whatever.  Answer with specific info about Trump and why Putin wouldn't have invaded with Trump in office.

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Let me try one last time.  What about Trump prevented Putin from invading?  Don't respond by talking about someone else or democrats or whatever.  Answer with specific info about Trump and why Putin wouldn't have invaded with Trump in office.

Trump's instability, Putin couldn't gauge what the response would be

Just now, Joe Shades 73 said:

Trump's instability, Putin couldn't gauge what the response would be

The question wasn't posed to you, sorry

3 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Let me try one last time.  What about Trump prevented Putin from invading?  Don't respond by talking about someone else or democrats or whatever.  Answer with specific info about Trump and why Putin wouldn't have invaded with Trump in office.

Have you forgotten what Trump ordered while Xi was visiting Mar-O-Lago?  But again, the invasion is much more about weakness perceived on the part of Obama and Biden than it was about perceived strength of Trump.  At the end of the day, what happened and when did it happen?  Facts on the ground speak loudly for themselves.  You need to justify your stance much more than I need to justify mine.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/13/trump-to-address-the-nation-about-syria-nbc-news.html

Trump orders targeted strikes in Syria to retaliate for suspected chemical weapons attack

13 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Let me try one last time.  What about Trump prevented Putin from invading?  Don't respond by talking about someone else or democrats or whatever.  Answer with specific info about Trump and why Putin wouldn't have invaded with Trump in office.

Because he was intimidated by Trump's hard line with North Korea, where he set a red line and then Un immediately stepped over it and threatened to bomb one of our territories and then Trump said he loved Un and they became best friends and kept giving each other gifts and then I think they may have F'd but I'm not sure about that last part.

Just now, DrPhilly said:

The question wasn't posed to you, sorry

I can reply Its a free country still, Putin hasn't invaded yet