July 5, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: TEW: Nobody understands Putin intentions, he invaded Ukraine because he wants a buffer zone against NATO. He's a brilliant leader and this was a perfectly calculated move. Also TEW: Finland, Sweden, Bosnia, Georgia, and Ukraine now want to join NATO. Putin knew this would happen, he planned for this! Yes, moron. It was a calculated move by Putin. He valued Ukraine, like anyone in his shoes would, and saw an opportunity with a weak US President and general chaos from COVID to take it. Taking Ukraine makes a ton of sense for Russia from a geopolitical perspective and having some Nordic countries join NATO is an easy opportunity cost decision. It’s pretty funny that you think this is some kind of gotcha moment though.
July 5, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Gotta keep Ascension Island, nestled in the middle of the South Atlantic Ocean, safe from those pesky Russians menacing them from 8500km away. Gee, it’s almost as if logistics matter and allies see value in helping us because we help them in a mutually beneficial arrangement.
July 5, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, TEW said: Yes, moron. It was a calculated move by Putin. He valued Ukraine, like anyone in his shoes would, and saw an opportunity with a weak US President and general chaos from COVID to take it. Taking Ukraine makes a ton of sense for Russia from a geopolitical perspective and having some Nordic countries join NATO is an easy opportunity cost decision. It’s pretty funny that you think this is some kind of gotcha moment though. see any of that Ukrainian resistance yet or is Putin still on schedule to take the country like you were telling us?
July 5, 20223 yr On 3/1/2022 at 5:00 PM, TEW said: There are people in here saying that this is some strategic blunder by Putin made out of irrationality. That it was a miscalculation, that he won’t be able to hold the cities, that Russia is economically ruined, etc. The fact is he knew the sanctions would be the response, he saw an opening, and he took it. He will have most if not all of Ukraine by the end of this mess and, much as we may detest him, it was an intelligent move on his part to achieve his own desired ends.
July 5, 20223 yr On 3/1/2022 at 4:32 PM, TEW said: How? He’s steamrolling through Ukraine faster than the US steamrolled Iraq. Yeah, of course not everyone likes Putin and there is some resistance l. You think Putin thought before the invasion he would be completely unopposed? Come on — we all agree Putin is the bad guy here, but it’s not like this invasion isn’t going well for him. He’s taking territory and strategic points quickly. Sucks, but in the real world sometimes the bad guys win.
July 5, 20223 yr On 3/1/2022 at 3:44 PM, TEW said: Definitely not a miscalculation— there are tons of Ukrainians who support Putin. Putin is going to end up with most, and probably all, of Ukraine. It’s been his long term goal for decades. He calculated correctly to achieve his ends. Not sure how you can spin this into some irrational action.
July 5, 20223 yr On 3/1/2022 at 7:31 PM, TEW said: He’s about to capture the capital and he almost owns the entire coast at this point. He invaded what, 6 days ago? Not sure I’m seeing this resistance everyone else is… Bwahahahahaha! Oh Dear God, there are so many gems in here. That you would even show your face again in this thread and think anyone would take you seriously after that clown show you put on 3 months ago is the funniest part.
July 5, 20223 yr Do we really need to circle back to the "Putin invaded because Biden is weak" nonsense? Multiple GOP politicians have openly said they'll pull funding for Ukraine and ease sanctions on Russia if they regain power. If Putin waited specifically for the Dems to be in charge to invade he's an idiot.
July 5, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, DrPhilly said: You obviously haven’t been paying attention. He says that Russia is winning - while most of you say it's wrong. He says that Ukraine being the totally "Good guys" and Russia being totally "Bad Guys" are not the crystal clear facts - while most of you say they are. He says that NATO is directly responsible for this war - while most of you say that it's wrong. He says that Ukrainian side is responsible for the war crimes as well - while most of you think it's wrong. What am I missing?
July 5, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, ilross2003 said: He says that Russia is winning - while most of you say it's wrong. He says that Ukraine being the totally "Good guys" and Russia being totally "Bad Guys" are not the crystal clear facts - while most of you say they are. He says that NATO is directly responsible for this war - while most of you say that it's wrong. He says that Ukrainian side is responsible for the war crimes as well - while most of you think it's wrong. What am I missing? A triple digit IQ
July 5, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, ilross2003 said: He says that Russia is winning - while most of you say it's wrong. He says that Ukraine being the totally "Good guys" and Russia being totally "Bad Guys" are not the crystal clear facts - while most of you say they are. He says that NATO is directly responsible for this war - while most of you say that it's wrong. He says that Ukrainian side is responsible for the war crimes as well - while most of you think it's wrong. What am I missing? No one is arguing that Ukraine is completely universally "good". Not even the dude on the ground helping them fight. Abra however is arguing that Russia's actions are completely justified and parroting the batsheet crazy theory that the invasion is humanitarian in origin the "denazify"/liberate the country. Which is completely moronic. He also thinks he's a sovereign citizen of Connecticut, and the government is secretly run by the Pope and Queen of England. He's a dumb guy. We really don't have to "both sides" this one.
July 5, 20223 yr Dolts still pretending 404 is winning? Every objective set out by Putin is being secured.
July 5, 20223 yr You're damned right Donbas is being liberated. 16,000 civilians killed by the NATO Not-zzz. These people are relieved when those **** are forced out of their homeland.
July 5, 20223 yr 47 minutes ago, ilross2003 said: He says that Russia is winning - while most of you say it's wrong. He says that Ukraine being the totally "Good guys" and Russia being totally "Bad Guys" are not the crystal clear facts - while most of you say they are. He says that NATO is directly responsible for this war - while most of you say that it's wrong. He says that Ukrainian side is responsible for the war crimes as well - while most of you think it's wrong. What am I missing? One example is that he believes in the entire NSDAP propaganda Putin throws out there. That is one of many.
July 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, ilross2003 said: He says that Russia is winning - while most of you say it's wrong. He says that Ukraine being the totally "Good guys" and Russia being totally "Bad Guys" are not the crystal clear facts - while most of you say they are. He says that NATO is directly responsible for this war - while most of you say that it's wrong. He says that Ukrainian side is responsible for the war crimes as well - while most of you think it's wrong. What am I missing? Abra? Uh no, dude, I know you wanna come to his rescue but you should take a deeper dive into the thread history before you jump off that cliff. He's got Russia as the 100% good guys, Ukraine as a NSDAP regime and NATO as the chief aggressor. He denies all Russian war crimes at every turn. If you are looking for a moderate voice who understands the grey areas, Abra is not the horse you want to ride.
July 5, 20223 yr Prison reform in Russia. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10984135/Putin-recruiting-prisoners-cannon-fodder-fight-Russia-Ukraine-amid-troop-shortages.html
July 5, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, Abracadabra said: You're damned right Donbas is being liberated. 16,000 civilians killed by the NATO Not-zzz. These people are relieved when those **** are forced out of their homeland. Damn those ukrainian nazhis bombing their own towns that Russia just invaded and destroyed Theres being a contrarian and being a moron, youre the latter.
July 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Damn those ukrainian nazhis bombing their own towns that Russia just invaded and destroyed Theres being a contrarian and being a moron, youre the latter. Civilians get punished for Russia invading? Are you that dense? Obviously the Ukronazis don't give a damn about the people of Donbas. Donbas is pro-Russian. Killing civilians is what the West is good at.
July 5, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Civilians get punished for Russia invading? Are you that dense? Obviously the Ukronazis don't give a damn about the people of Donbas. Donbas is pro-Russian. Killing civilians is what the West is good at. Russia has killed civilians from day 1 of this invasion. They are invading a foreign nation and destroying the city, blaming Ukraine for fighting back is literally psychotic but you do you
July 5, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Russia has killed civilians from day 1 of this invasion. They are invading a foreign nation and destroying the city, blaming Ukraine for fighting back is literally psychotic but you do you Shelling civilian areas is not fighting back. The Donbas militia is on the battlefield not in neighborhoods with 10 year old girls. Russia and the Donbas militia have avoided endangering civilians as best they could. These are their own people, after all. These cities and towns are now part of independent Donbas, if not Russia itself. When the Ukronazis resort to their usual tactic of hiding in civilian areas and fighting from behind the skirts of women, there may be the occasional civilian casualty. Under international law, those deaths are the responsibility of the cowards using human shields. Donbas invited the Russians in. This Special Military Operation is conducted under international law.
July 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: Shelling civilian areas is not fighting back. The Donbas militia is on the battlefield not in neighborhoods with 10 year old girls. Russia and the Donbas militia have avoided endangering civilians as best they could. These are their own people, after all. These cities and towns are now part of independent Donbas, if not Russia itself. When the Ukronazis resort to their usual tactic of hiding in civilian areas and fighting from behind the skirts of women, there may be the occasional civilian casualty. Under international law, those deaths are the responsibility of the cowards using human shields. Donbas invited the Russians in. This Special Military Operation is conducted under international law. Russia has been killing civilians nonstop, just the other day they bombed a mall. Youre lying
July 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Russia has been killing civilians nonstop, just the other day they bombed a mall. Youre lying Lie. They bombed a munitions and arms storage adjacent to an empty mall which caught fire when ammo exploded. Fact.
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