February 22, 20223 yr Just now, Procus said: You really don't understand how things work. To people like you - everything is out in the open for all to see. Nothing happens behind the scenes. Oh we're aware that behind the scenes things get flushed down the toilet.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I have no idea where these sanctions are on the continuum of "paying lip service" to "will be devastating for Russia" .. wait, do you actually think Trump would become pro-NATO all the sudden and actually do anything more than what Biden is doing? You think you made a funny, but you can't seem to put your finger on why this didn't happen while Trump was prez.
February 22, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: if that buffoon was still president he would have just let the whole thing happen. But then why didn't Putin do this then?
February 22, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: Yah, because the Russians just happened to wait until Trump was OUT of office before they went in. You people are blind as a bat. It's staring you in the face and you don't even see it - more like you choose not to see it. wait, do you actually think Trump would become pro-NATO all the sudden and actually do anything more than what Biden is doing? edit: I was waiting for the stupid "your posts have been merged" thing to timeout.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: You think you made a funny, but you can't seem to put your finger on why this didn't happen while Trump was prez. Do you actually think that Trump would do a damn thing if Russia had decided to do this then? In all likelihood the timing is probably related to NordStream 2. Russia oil is paying Ukraine hefty fees to have their gas pass through Ukraine (among other nations) and NS 2 was at the time just waiting for EU's approval. Putin doesn't care who the US president is as long as he's confident the West/US/NATO won't commit to a large scale military defense of Ukraine. Look at Tucker tickling Putin's balls every night and tell me that with Trump in charge the Republican base would be itching for a war with Russia
February 22, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Kz! said: Can this dude just go away already. Embarrassment. We should invade and seize all the oil.
February 22, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Neo-con warmongers will not be outdone by neo-lib warmongers. "We have no intention of fighting Russia. We want to send an unmistakable message, though, that the United States together with our allies will defend every inch of NATO territory and abide by the commitments we made to NATO.” yeah, ok komrad.
February 22, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Do you actually think that Trump would do a damn thing if Russia had decided to do this then? In all likelihood the timing is probably related to NordStream 2. Russia oil is paying Ukraine hefty fees to have their gas pass through Ukraine (among other nations) and NS 2 was at the time just waiting for EU's approval. Putin doesn't care who the US president is as long as he's confident the West/US/NATO won't commit to a large scale military defense of Ukraine. Look at Tucker tickling Putin's balls every night and tell me that with Trump in charge the Republican base would be itching for a war with Russia It's really not that complicated. During the Trump presidency, the US administration was actively weakening NATO, which is Putin's stated goal. So why in the hell would Putin take aggressive actions when he was already getting what he wanted? All he might have done is rally NATO's European members to bind together. You don't start a fight when your enemies are tearing themselves apart. Biden is the polar opposite of Trump when it comes to NATO and all other international security alliances, and strengthening NATO and international ties is his primary objective. So Putin acts now because Nord Stream 2 presented the potential to drive a wedge between Germany and the US. So far Putin's calculation has failed, but let's see if Germany sticks with it. Putin's goal is always to weaken NATO.
February 22, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Biden is the polar opposite of Trump when it comes to NATO and all other international security alliances, and strengthening NATO and international ties is his primary objective. So Putin acts now because Nord Stream 2 presented the potential to drive a wedge between Germany and the US. So far Putin's calculation has failed, but let's see if Germany sticks with it. That's going to be the key. 2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: We should not be depending on Russia for oil at all I look forward to hearing the idiots in the back blaming Biden for $6/gallon at the pump.
February 22, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: We should not be depending on Russia for oil at all I mean, oil is a global market. We could sanction Russian oil, but unless others went along, we'd simply just raise the price we pay for oil by limiting our supply. There was no way European countries were going to sanction Russian oil exports prior to this.
February 22, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: That's going to be the key. I look forward to hearing the idiots in the back blaming Biden for $6/gallon at the pump. Right or wrong that is who will get blamed, just like inflation.
February 22, 20223 yr Sorry Russia has troops in your country. Also, not my problem. Lower our freaking gas and get rid of the sanctions...but then Democrats wouldn't have an out for inflation/high gas/economy sucking, which we all know they will blame on this BS. Not getting involved should be an issue we all agree on.
February 22, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: "We have no intention of fighting Russia. We want to send an unmistakable message, though, that the United States together with our allies will defend every inch of NATO territory and abide by the commitments we made to NATO.” yeah, ok komrad. No, you just want to fight until the last Ukrainian.
February 22, 20223 yr Trump not doing well against Biden head to head even though he leads, Biden is at a low point https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html
February 22, 20223 yr It is so heartwarming to see that no matter what is going on, there are always people ready, willing and able, to throw blame for it at a party. This is, of course, the first step to solving any problem. Assign blame.
February 22, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Toastrel said: It is so heartwarming to see that no matter what is going on, there are always people ready, willing and able, to throw blame for it at a party. This is, of course, the first step to solving any problem. Assign blame. The number one person who deserves blame is Putin by far
February 22, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: That's going to be the key. I look forward to hearing the idiots in the back blaming Biden for $6/gallon at the pump. Yeah. You're the smart one. 😆
February 22, 20223 yr 55 minutes ago, vikas83 said: I just...OK. This person was actually President. Good lord I'm so glad that stooge is out of office. If anyone needs to ask for the 999th time why we voted for Biden and why I couldn't care less if he has full on dementia, here is a glaring example.
February 22, 20223 yr 59 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: if that buffoon was still president he would have just let the whole thing happen. He'd be parroting Putin's talking points and blaming it all on NATO. This would be exactly the narrative Trump would need to pull the U.S. out of NATO which he was dying to do.
February 22, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Procus said: Yah, because the Russians just happened to wait until Trump was OUT of office before they went in. You people are blind as a bat. It's staring you in the face and you don't even see it - more like you choose not to see it. This post didn't age well.
February 22, 20223 yr 40 minutes ago, Joe Shades 73 said: But then why didn't Putin do this then? My guess is there is now a mutual agreement in place between China and Russia. Russia takes Ukraine, China takes Taiwan and they support each other's moves.
February 22, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Sorry Russia has troops in your country. Also, not my problem. Lower our freaking gas and get rid of the sanctions...but then Democrats wouldn't have an out for inflation/high gas/economy sucking, which we all know they will blame on this BS. Not getting involved should be an issue we all agree on. Acting like what happens overseas won't affect us here is folly. I would have thought Americans would have learned this by now, but sadly not.
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