September 12, 20223 yr Meanwhile, as recently as Friday night, Tucker Carlson was setting up his viewers for a Ukrainian defeat. FoxNews viewers must be the most misinformed people on Earth!
September 12, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: someone needs to check on Abra, he's been taking too many kicks to the V lately. i'm concerned. Nah. F him.
September 12, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, toolg said: Meanwhile, as recently as Friday night, Tucker Carlson was setting up his viewers for a Ukrainian defeat. FoxNews viewers must be the most misinformed people on Earth! Pretty obvious where Abra/TEW get their war coverage updates from.
September 12, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Pretty obvious where Abra/TEW get their war coverage updates from. You can always trust a guy with a bow tie and a high, hysterical woman's laughter.
September 12, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: you can F him, he's not my type. Sounds like he's taken a lot of boots to the vadge too.
September 12, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, barho said: Just…..wow. Taking naval torpedo men, training them in tank warfare for a week and sending them out to die. Russia is a joke. I actually feel terrible for this kid. That's wild. Not sure what it is now but back in the day basic training took 12 weeks. And that doesn't include individualized training on whatever your role was going to be. If Russia is going to regroup and do anything meaningful they're going to have to pause, operationally, for at least four months or so to get soldiers in with any fighting capacity at all.
September 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said: someone needs to check on Abra, he's been taking too many kicks to the V lately. i'm concerned. I've been kinda hoping he ended up being collateral damage or something.
September 12, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, toolg said: Meanwhile, as recently as Friday night, Tucker Carlson was setting up his viewers for a Ukrainian defeat. FoxNews viewers must be the most misinformed people on Earth! They're just setting up the chess board so when/if republicans gain power, they can start talking about how the war is some kind of expensive boondoggle, and we should pull back on our support, and it's not so bad if authoritarians start pushing their way into western Europe, etc etc etc.
September 12, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Please. Share. I need a good laugh Rand Quote This report examines a range of possible means to extend Russia. As the 2018 National Defense Strategy recognized, the United States is currently locked in a great-power competition with Russia. This report seeks to define areas where the United States can compete to its own advantage. Drawing on quantitative and qualitative data from Western and Russian sources, this report examines Russia's economic, political, and military vulnerabilities and anxieties. It then analyzes potential policy options to exploit them — ideologically, economically, geopolitically, and militarily (including air and space, maritime, land, and multidomain options). After describing each measure, this report assesses the associated benefits, costs, and risks, as well as the likelihood that measure could be successfully implemented and actually extend Russia. Most of the steps covered in this report are in some sense escalatory, and most would likely prompt some Russian counter-escalation. Some of these policies, however, also might prompt adverse reactions from other U.S. adversaries — most notably, China — that could, in turn, stress the United States. Ultimately, this report concludes that the most attractive U.S. policy options to extend Russia — with the greatest benefits, highest likelihood of success, and least risk — are in the economic domain, featuring a combination of boosting U.S. energy production and sanctions, providing the latter are multilateral. In contrast, geopolitical measures to bait Russia into overextending itself and ideological measures to undermine the regime's stability carry significant risks. Finally, many military options — including force posture changes and development of new capabilities — could enhance U.S. deterrence and reassure U.S. allies, but only a few are likely to extend Russia, as Moscow is not seeking parity with the United States in most domains. The section entitled: Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine, reads like todays newspapers.
September 12, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Rand The section entitled: Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine, reads like todays newspapers. no plans to "invade" Russia there, and that document was written in response to Russian aggression in Crimea dipsh**. so yeah, when a country acts as an imperialist belligerent - as Russia has under Putin the last 20 years - western nations are going to respond to that through policy. and that document is a prime example of how the West responded to Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 - NOT by invading Russia or escalating militarily, but by finding non-military ways to weaken a nation that seems hellbent on rebuilding the Soviet Union. IOW - it's a document that precisely shows that invading Russia was not on the West's lists of options. anything else genius?
September 12, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Rand The section entitled: Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine, reads like todays newspapers. You can't even comprehend what you are reading, ****. Now go step on a landmine.
September 12, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Rand The section entitled: Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine, reads like todays newspapers. You are actually serious Have you considered therapy/drugs?
September 12, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: no plans to "invade" Russia there, and that document was written in response to Russian aggression in Crimea dip****. so yeah, when a country acts as an imperialist belligerent - as Russia has under Putin the last 20 years - western nations are going to respond to that through policy. and that document is a prime example of how the West responded to Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 - NOT by invading Russia or escalating militarily, but by finding non-military ways to weaken a nation that seems hellbent on rebuilding the Soviet Union. IOW - it's a document that precisely shows that invading Russia was not on the West's lists of options. anything else genius? Nobody ever said invading Russia was an option. That would be suicide. The Rand study clearly examines ways to bait Russia into overextending itself. Flooding Ukraine with lethal aid was among the ways to goad the Russians. It's right there in black and white. And, Ukraine is just one among many other proxies put forth as a way to weaken Russia. They admit that what motivates them is "a great power competition" of which Ukraine is(was) merely a small part. The Caucasus, Syria and Belarus are among other countries the U.S. seeks to use as an anvil against Russia. Quote Other than in Syria, its foreign commitments in Ukraine and the Caucasus are relatively compact, contiguous to Russia, and in locales where at least some of the local population is friendly and geography provides Russia with military advantages. The measures examined under this heading tend to risk counter-escalation by Russia to which the United States might be hard-pressed to respond effectively.
September 12, 20223 yr Just now, Abracadabra said: Nobody ever said invading Russia was an option. Nobody other than you.
September 12, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Nobody other than you. Het 9 minutes ago, Toastrel said: You are actually serious Have you considered therapy/drugs? Oh, their own words aren't good enough for you? What more do you want?
September 12, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Nobody ever said invading Russia was an option. That would be suicide. The Rand study clearly examines ways to bait Russia into overextending itself. Flooding Ukraine with lethal aid was among the ways to goad the Russians. It's right there in black and white. And, Ukraine is just one among many other proxies put forth as a way to weaken Russia. They admit that what motivates them is "a great power competition" of which Ukraine is(was) merely a small part. The Caucasus, Syria and Belarus are among other countries the U.S. seeks to use as an anvil against Russia. Then by your stupid take Russia played right into the West's hands. Literally all Russia had to do was not invade Ukraine, and they could have remained a member of the world economy in whatever standing they were at before. Nobody was eager to ratchet up tensions, economically or militarily, with Russia. Russia's military could have remained a paper tiger and thus a source of strength for force projection. Now? Russia is economically being put in a timeout at minimum. Militarily they have been embarrassed. Nations are going to second guess any plans to buy Russian weapons, further straining one of the few export industries that didn't involve raw materials. So if the West literally published a guide for Russia to understand how it would respond, and Russia decided to go ahead and invade Ukraine anyway, what does that make Russia? It makes them arrogantly stupid.
September 13, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Then by your stupid take Russia played right into the West's hands. Literally all Russia had to do was not invade Ukraine, and they could have remained a member of the world economy in whatever standing they were at before. Nobody was eager to ratchet up tensions, economically or militarily, with Russia. Russia's military could have remained a paper tiger and thus a source of strength for force projection. Now? Russia is economically being put in a timeout at minimum. Militarily they have been embarrassed. Nations are going to second guess any plans to buy Russian weapons, further straining one of the few export industries that didn't involve raw materials. So if the West literally published a guide for Russia to understand how it would respond, and Russia decided to go ahead and invade Ukraine anyway, what does that make Russia? It makes them arrogantly stupid. Russia either takes the bait and comes to the aid of their fellow Russians in the Donbas or they watch the continued genocide of those people by NATO. Pretty clear choice for anyone not groveling at the feet of globalist goons. Russians are dignified enough to face off with the **** you worship. The Russians are blazing a path for any self respecting country to follow in telling the colonialists to F-off. Characterizing that RAND study as a warning to Russia of what might happen if it invaded Ukraine is nonsense. The language of the authors makes it clear who's responding to whom: Quote An increase in U.S. security assistance to Ukraine would likely lead to a commensurate increase in both Russian aid to the separatists and Russian military forces in Ukraine, thus sustaining the conflict at a somewhat higher level of intensity.20 Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, the former commanding general of U.S. Army Europe, argued against giving Javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine for precisely this reason.21 Alternatively, Russia might counter-escalate, committing more troops and pushing them deeper into Ukraine. Russia might even preempt U.S. action, escalating before any additional U.S. aid arrives. Such escalation might extend Russia; The authors make it clear that Russia is expected to react to U.S. provocations, not the other way around. Suggesting otherwise is pure BS!
September 13, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Russia either takes the bait and comes to the aid of their fellow Russians in the Donbas or they watch the continued genocide of those people by NATO. Pretty clear choice for anyone not groveling at the feet of globalist goons. Russians are dignified enough to face off with the **** you worship. The Russians are blazing a path for any self respecting country to follow in telling the colonialists to F-off. Characterizing that RAND study as a warning to Russia of what might happen if it invaded Ukraine is nonsense. The language of the authors makes it clear who's responding to whom: The authors make it clear that Russia is expected to react to U.S. provocations, not the other way around. Suggesting otherwise is pure BS!
September 13, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Rand The section entitled: Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine, reads like todays newspapers.
September 13, 20223 yr Russia is losing a battalion a day, but this is all planned. Luring us into thinking they are as pathetic as their actions show them to be. That's some next level mind-crap, right there.
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