There's a lot to unpack here...

 

My kid can't wait to turn 16 next spring and start working.

39 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

You know who’s usually liberal? Teenagers

They think posting videos on Tik Tok is a job

17 minutes ago, Shepard Wong said:

So the employment rate of teenagers has increased by 24% in the last decade.  

Eh...it completely fell apart in 2008 because of the Great Recession. No one was hiring seasonal workers.

17 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

My kid can't wait to turn 16 next spring and start working.

Doesn't take after the old man, huh?

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

 

I'll tell you who really doesn't want jobs: teenagers.


"In August 1978, 1 out of every 2 teenagers was working...However, that figure has been declining ever since...Only 1out of every 4 teens had jobs last summer."

 

1 hour ago, VanHammersly said:

Why in the world would you not force your teenager to get a job?

 

1 hour ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

And why the hell would you not want your own money as a teen? I was dying to get a job when I turned 14; I wanted to buy a Les Paul, but these kids have no hobbies or ambitions. We really do have a parenting crisis in this country that I think is and will be the root cause of many of our problems.

Would be interesting to break it down by male and female single households along with married/cohabiting parents.

34 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

My kid can't wait to turn 16 next spring and start working.

Labor laws prevent 15 year olds from working?

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Labor laws prevent 15 year olds from working?

No, but in our area nobody was hiring at 15. He tried but couldn't find anything. Even the boardwalk jobs in Ocean City wouldn't hire 15 year olds.

2 minutes ago, TEW said:

Labor laws prevent 15 year olds from working?

Over the table? Yes.

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the Pennsylvania Child Labor Act requires all minors, which is any person under age 18, to obtain a work permit from the school district in which they reside

 

20 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Doesn't take after the old man, huh?

I had two jobs when I was 16

1 minute ago, Toastrel said:

Over the table? Yes.

 

Interesting— I don’t remember that being a thing when I was 15.

2 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

I had two jobs when I was 16

You're jobless in your mid forties though lmao

1 minute ago, Kz! said:

You're jobless in your mid forties though lmao

Yes. 

Increasing demands of colleges may play a factor in that too. Good grades ain't enough nowadays to get you into a good program. Extracurriculars, advanced credits and volunteer work are pretty much requirements nowadays. Despite the fact that IMO working a year or 2 in the service industry is a much more important life lesson 

12 minutes ago, TEW said:

Interesting— I don’t remember that being a thing when I was 15.

Legally he can work limited hours and times. Thats not the issue, the issue is very few hire that young in my area. He does art by commission and makes enough to pay for his computer game downloads lol. He's 16 in March and shouldn't have a problem finding a PT job then.

9 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Over the table? Yes.

 

Getting a work permit was pretty straight forward from what I remember.

11 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Over the table? Yes.

 

Huh?  I had a job when I was 15.  I was limited in the # of hours and I couldn't work past a certain time, but other than that there was no issue.

2 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Getting a work permit was pretty straight forward from what I remember.

Work permits for kids are still very easy to get.

2 minutes ago, paco said:

Huh?  I had a job when I was 15.  I was limited in the # of hours and I couldn't work past a certain time, but other than that there was no issue.

Same today.  Nothing has changed.

7 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Legally he can work limited hours and times. Thats not the issue, the issue is very few hire that young in my area. He does art by commission and makes enough to pay for he computer game downloads lol. He's 16 in March and shouldn't have a problem finding a PT job then.

Weird — you’d figure entry level jobs they’d take what they can get given the labor constraints. I worked at Baskin Robins when I was 15. 2 weeknights and weekends.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Huh?  I had a job when I was 15.  I was limited in the # of hours and I couldn't work past a certain time, but other than that there was no issue.

Me too. You are supposed to get working papers. I never bothered until senior year in HS when the job asked for them.

1 hour ago, Kz! said:

There's a lot to unpack here...

 

Breaking News: Trump promises to appoint first trans secretary of defense. 

9 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Me too. You are supposed to get working papers. I never bothered until senior year in HS when the job asked for them.

Ok......

 

So how exactly are labor laws, specifically what you posted, preventing 15 year olds from working?

 

This was the discussion:  

28 minutes ago, TEW said:

Labor laws prevent 15 year olds from working?

 

26 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Over the table? Yes.

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the Pennsylvania Child Labor Act requires all minors, which is any person under age 18, to obtain a work permit from the school district in which they reside

 

 

4 minutes ago, paco said:

Ok......

 

So how exactly are labor laws, specifically what you posted, preventing 15 year olds from working?

 

This was the discussion:  

 

 

I said over the table. Legally, you are supposed to have working papers.

That was all I said. Kids should work. I think it sucks that parents don't make them do it more often.

Just now, Toastrel said:

I said over the table. Legally, you are supposed to have working papers.

That was all I said.

So.... it doesn't prevent a 15 year old from working.  

There's fewer employers willing to hire younger kids. That's reality.

The barriers aren't the permits. Employers have made the conscious and probably rational choice to invest less in workers who don't see the job as more than filling time and not paying enough to justify that time in many cases. On either side.

Market is different. It'll change as always.

20 minutes ago, paco said:

So.... it doesn't prevent a 15 year old from working.  

Why don't you just talk to yourself.