October 3, 20223 yr The jupiters in turkey were aging and obsolete anyway. It was an out to allow Kruschev to save face. But overall, the CMC was a stand-off between us and them, and they blinked. Trying to spin it any other way is revisionist nonsense.
October 3, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, TEW said: Kennedy literally gave into their demands. That’s the legacy of the Cuban Missile Crisis — tough talking on the exterior but pragmatism behind closed doors. You know why? Because he wasn’t an insane person and realized WW3 was better to be avoided. Meanwhile you chicken hawks agitate for a scenario with the potential to leave billions of people dead. Russia is about to be defeated in Ukraine. You do not capitulate land to a defeated army. Putins ouster will come before nukes are used. He has failed, and his end is near.
October 3, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, barho said: Russia is about to be defeated in Ukraine. You do not capitulate land to a defeated army. Putins ouster will come before nukes are used. He has failed, and his end is near. Uh, yeah, that’s the entire point. You don’t risk nuclear war when your proxy war is working. And if "Putin’s end is near” all the more reason not to get into a situation where a desperate man would have reason to push the red button.
October 3, 20223 yr Half of mobilised men in Russian region sent home, commissar fired - governor https://www.yahoo.com/video/half-mobilised-men-russian-region-044012419.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9nb29nbGUuY29tLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALB98rCeS8exSD5a_YzQ7Sqs7grpwIQzi-1gslvXXovPfKwdrcbRy5wj8CkFXXO8wt78DFQ9Q8TNEUlPcC62GmQ46r99Z-gfQMMvHS2wlmnYqrJh4TvIvOFCLR-mP0g9iKrevpAKrllOAnI3mvkWpF-JChLpnHeTPmiYvxUVeBlv Quote The military commissar of Russia's Khabarovsk region was removed from his post after half of the newly mobilised personnel were sent home as they did not meet the draft criteria, the region's governor said early on Monday. Quote The chaotic mobilisation of men to fight in Ukraine has also prompted thousands of fighting-age men to flee from the country to avoid a draft that was billed as enlisting those with military experience and specialities but has often appeared oblivious to service records, health, student status and even age. Some 2,000 people have been arrested at anti-war protests in more than 30 towns and cities, and some of them promptly given call-up papers - something the Kremlin said was perfectly legal.
October 3, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, TEW said: Uh, yeah, that’s the entire point. You don’t risk nuclear war when your proxy war is working. And if "Putin’s end is near” all the more reason not to get into a situation where a desperate man would have reason to push the red button. Putin cannot push the red button by himself. He needs four others in the chain to push it, too. Four fingers he doesn't have.
October 3, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Abracadabra said: I don't know if you noticed: 1. The columns of weapon systems being transferred to the region means the establishment of a new military district. The "invasion" is literally being fortified by tens of thousands of men and military material flowing into the area, non-stop. An ultimatum is soon to be presented to NATO's man in what's left of Ukraine. Presently, the Ukies are throwing everything they've got to temporarily capture a few small, insignificant towns here or there. A lot of men and material are being lost in the process. Means nothing in the long run. Abra gets his news from Big Serge
October 3, 20223 yr Directly north of Kreminna. History suggests they know it's gonna be liberated. This would seem to confirm that Ukraine controls the whole corridor east of the Oskil river which is where Russia supposedly "regrouped" after the initial Kharkiv blitz. They're gonna roll and eventually surround Severodonetsk.
October 3, 20223 yr Hey @Abracadabra you appear to be losing a grip on Kherson.. When Kherson falls what will it be? "Kherson wasn't that important." LMK how that works when HIMARs from Kherson keep Crimea awake every night.
October 3, 20223 yr "It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.”
October 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: "It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.” I doubt the US had anything to do with it. I don't see Biden approving it. But even if we did... What're you gonna do about it comrade?
October 3, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hey @Abracadabra you appear to be losing a grip on Kherson.. When Kherson falls what will it be? "Kherson wasn't that important." LMK how that works when HIMARs from Kherson keep Crimea awake every night. Not really.
October 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I doubt the US had anything to do with it. I don't see Biden approving it. But even if we did... What're you gonna do about it comrade? Something asymmetrical. Likely in Syria.
October 3, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Not really. That's cool and all, but you know who's Ukraine's #1 supplier of arms is?
October 3, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: That's cool and all, but you know who's Ukraine's #1 supplier of arms is? Given that all the Soviet gear they started out with has been destroyed, I'd say Poland.
October 3, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Given that all the Soviet gear they started out with has been destroyed, I'd say Poland. I guess you haven't seen all the equipment left behind in the north.
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