October 3, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I guess you haven't seen all the equipment left behind in the north. Not enough to be considered a supplier. And that goes both ways. Ruskies have themselves a HIMARS I hear.
October 3, 20223 yr https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blue-checks-diplomats-bots-go-ballistic-over-elon-musks-proposed-russia-ukraine-peace To the poll, I say yes to referendum but if Russia objects to UN supervision then agree to referendum and any person from anywhere may observe
October 3, 20223 yr Author Nothing like a proxy war to test out all our new equipment developed by Boeing, Lockheed, and Raytheon
October 3, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: Nothing like a proxy war to test out all our new equipment developed by Boeing, Lockheed, and Raytheon At this point it seems more like a demonstration to Russia of how far behind they are.
October 3, 20223 yr Complete BS from the usual suspects. The Anglosites are preparing their false flag to blame Russia for their use of nukes.
October 3, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: I don't get why people are giving him such a hard time about this. Who cares about his opinion? He is still owed unfathomable multitudes of thanks for supplying them with Starlink. And for idiots now to act as if he is a Russian apologist is completely ridiculous and unfair. Where would Ukraine be without him right now?
October 3, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, TEW said: Kennedy literally gave into their demands. That’s the legacy of the Cuban Missile Crisis — tough talking on the exterior but pragmatism behind closed doors. You know why? Because he wasn’t an insane person and realized WW3 was better to be avoided. Meanwhile you chicken hawks agitate for a scenario with the potential to leave billions of people dead. Kennedy literally surrounded the island of Cuba and risked war BEFORE there was any deal in place. Your knowledge of history is as skewed as your perspective on virtually everything else. The missiles in Turkey as WGTB pointed out was a consolation AFTER the fact.
October 3, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: Complete BS from the usual suspects. The Anglosites are preparing their false flag to blame Russia for their use of nukes. Hilarious how you rashists continue to believe the world gives a crap about Russia. Nobody in the west gives two craps about Russia. Certainly not worth getting into a nuclear war with. It's laughable. Russia is a crap country with nukes. The west tolerated their nonsense for cheap gas. But they're getting dropped like the cheap **** they are.
October 3, 20223 yr 29 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Hilarious how you rashists continue to believe the world gives a crap about Russia. Nobody in the west gives two craps about Russia. Certainly not worth getting into a nuclear war with. It's laughable. Russia is a crap country with nukes. The west tolerated their nonsense for cheap gas. But they're getting dropped like the cheap **** they are. O.K. but why is it that the EU are the ones to suffer? Have you seen the Euro and Sterling lately? Do you see EU schoolchildren wrapped in blankets eight weeks before winter? Have you heard of toilet paper mills shutting down? Fine, drop Russian cheap and reliable gas if you must but how about having an ounce of respect for the people of your own countries. Why not put suitable replacements in order to avoid the EU being reduced to a backwater reminiscent of the paleolithic era. Foraging for twigs and berries, heating homes with wood and wiping their ass with leaves is the cost to Europe of dropping Russia. Hans, Pierre and Guido aren't laughing.
October 3, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, Gannan said: Kennedy literally surrounded the island of Cuba and risked war BEFORE there was any deal in place. Your knowledge of history is as skewed as your perspective on virtually everything else. The missiles in Turkey as WGTB pointed out was a consolation AFTER the fact. It was a literal quid pro quo deal with the USSR — their missiles in Cuba for our missiles in Turkey. Kennedy offered a guarantee to not invade Cuba if the missiles were disarmed. Khrushchev countered by saying he would agree if the US ALSO removed their missiles from Turkey. Kennedy accepted the USSR deal, but kept our concession of removing missiles from Turkey secret from the public. It was the exact opposite of Khrushchev saving face, or some meaningless gift — it was the entire basis of the deal and it was Kennedy who hid his concession to the Soviets from the public. Far from some face saving move from the Soviets, it was actually the Soviets who weren’t worried about public opinion and Kennedy who attempted to make the deal look better than it was from a PR perspective. This is basic history. From the skewed alt-right fascist pro Russia propaganda outlet, WaPo: The United States first deployed nuclear weapons on Turkish soil in 1959. President John F. Kennedy used them as bargaining chips to end the Cuban missile crisis in 1962, agreeing to withdraw nuclear-armed Jupiter missiles from Turkey in exchange for the removal of Soviet nuclear weapons in Cuba. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/18/can-us-protect-its-nuclear-weapons-turkey/ Officially, the Kennedy administration decided to accept the terms of the first message and ignore the second Khrushchev letter entirely. Privately, however, American officials also agreed to withdraw their nation’s missiles from Turkey. U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy (1925-68) personally delivered the message to the Soviet ambassador in Washington, and on October 28, the crisis drew to a close. Both the Americans and Soviets were sobered by the Cuban Missile Crisis. The following year, a direct "hot line” communication link was installed between Washington and Moscow to help defuse similar situations, and the superpowers signed two treaties related to nuclear weapons. https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/cold-war/cuban-missile-crisis#section_5 And it was such a scary confrontation that both sides were scared sh**less to the point of literally setting up a direct communications line to defuse any possible war from breaking out. But you insane, ignorant chicken hawks are now agitating for a direct confrontation 60 years later. It’s total stupidity and madness. Ukraine is winning the war. We don’t need to be involved anymore than we already are. Why on earth would you risk something as catastrophic as losing thousands of our own soldiers or a super carrier, let alone a nuclear war, when we’re already winning with a proxy war? It’s total batsh** insanity. Honestly, thank God the Democrats are still controlled by Boomers who have a living memory of the Cold War.
October 3, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, vikas83 said: Are @greenskeeper and @lynched1 jokes to you? Wait...don't answer that. Suck it Squishy boy!
October 3, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: O.K. but why is it that the EU are the ones to suffer? Have you seen the Euro and Sterling lately? Do you see EU schoolchildren wrapped in blankets eight weeks before winter? Have you heard of toilet paper mills shutting down? Fine, drop Russian cheap and reliable gas if you must but how about having an ounce of respect for the people of your own countries. Why not put suitable replacements in order to avoid the EU being reduced to a backwater reminiscent of the paleolithic era. Foraging for twigs and berries, heating homes with wood and wiping their ass with leaves is the cost to Europe of dropping Russia. Hans, Pierre and Guido aren't laughing. Oh no some students may need to wear coats to school. Europe will be fine. Russians will still be Russian, with a misplaced sense of entitlement in an economically isolated 3rd world country. Nice job Putin.
October 3, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Oh no some students may need to wear coats to school. Europe will be fine. Russians will still be Russian, with a misplaced sense of entitlement in an economically isolated 3rd world country. Nice job Putin. I mean, to be honest, it’s going to be a bad period for Europe. Not end of the world stuff (unless the chicken hawks get their way) but they’re going to have a rough time of it with their energy issues.
October 3, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: And just like that...conservatives are totally into electric cars.
October 4, 20223 yr 57 minutes ago, TEW said: I mean, to be honest, it’s going to be a bad period for Europe. Not end of the world stuff (unless the chicken hawks get their way) but they’re going to have a rough time of it with their energy issues. It won’t be nearly as bad as people say it will be. Trust me.
October 4, 20223 yr Author We don't want this dude to lead Russia Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov says his three sons, aged 14, 15 and 16, will soon travel to the Ukraine front line to fight with Russian forces. Kadyrov is a strong ally of Vladimir Putin, although has recently criticised Russian military leadership. On social media, he wrote that a father should teach his sons how to protect their family, people and fatherland. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63118050.amp
October 4, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, TEW said: I mean, to be honest, it’s going to be a bad period for Europe. Not end of the world stuff (unless the chicken hawks get their way) but they’re going to have a rough time of it with their energy issues. Ah, F off with your wuss a** ish. First of all the Cuban Missile Crisis got the ish escalated out of it before the deal was made. It was a very tight rope everyone walked on. Second of all, stop buying his posturing, because that's all he's doing. That's his way of trying to get people like you to be ok to terms that are more amenable to him. That's it. You think he's some disorganized psychopath hell bent on world destruction? No, he's a self serving pragmatic psychopath. The kind that don't make decisions that don't appeal to self serving interests, like picking instant death. Honestly, you're taking the bait. Pretty hard.
October 4, 20223 yr It all comes down to one question. Is a textbook narcissist (Putin) willing to basically commit suicide if he doesn't get what he wants? Anyone who knows anything about narcissism or knows someone like that knows they won't. It's why he's going full on delay mode. Think about it. Anyone who's actually crazy enough to use a tactical nuke and think they can get away with it would have already used it by now. Putin has only one option here. It's to extend the war for years in order to buy time. He's hoping another exit path will reveal itself sometime later on. That means our jobs are to compress the war timeline. Do whatever needs to be done to push Russians back to their borders and then bring Ukraine into NATO. It needs to be done before Russia can make any sort of meaningful recovery of its military apparatus, which will take years.
October 4, 20223 yr Ukraine continuing to liberate towns along the Dnipro towards Ukraine. Heading towards Nova Kakhovka.. which if Ukraine manages to secure in the coming days means no more water for Crimea.
October 4, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, Bill said: . Honestly, you're taking the bait. Pretty hard. considering he's been nibbling on trump's bait for years now, this is hardly a surprise. but hey, he calls some people chicken hawks, so .....there's that.
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