October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: 🤔 Maybe it was 100, whatever. The point is that there was never any reinforcements needed so I was never called.
October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: Maybe it was 100, whatever. The point is that there was never any reinforcements needed so I was never called. I was good with 120 days. 🤣 You may have missed the point
October 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: I don’t disagree but it has nothing to do with the current situation. Just to be clear, I am 100% against forced military service. Military recruitment ebbs and flows all the time. You linked to an article about Russians avoiding call-ups like this is a uniquely Russian problem. That's nonsense. People are essentially the same all over the world. Some lead, some follow and some run away.
October 5, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I was good with 120 days. 🤣 You may have missed the point What, you just highlighted 120 days. lol
October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: What, you just highlighted 120 days. lol As opposed to 210 days and counting....
October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: As opposed to 210 days and counting.... Sooo this war is taking longer and that means what?
October 5, 20223 yr Just now, Abracadabra said: Sooo this war is taking longer and that means what? Overrated adversary.
October 5, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: Overrated adversary. Well, to be fair, I think Ukraine's army is much better trained, equipped and dug in than Saddam's invading force in Kuwait. Comparing the two is silly.
October 5, 20223 yr Just now, Abracadabra said: Well, to be fair, I think Ukraine's army is much better trained, equipped and dug in than Saddam's invading force in Kuwait. Comparing the two is silly. I'd say they're trained as well if not better than what Russia has offered. More motivated as well. I don't care for either party but I'm old school "kill a commie for mommy".
October 5, 20223 yr 14 minutes ago, lynched1 said: I'd say they're trained as well if not better than what Russia has offered. More motivated as well. I don't care for either party but I'm old school "kill a commie for mommy". Then you're a tool. I know the CIA propaganda is strong. You're fed that BS on a daily basis, all day. But, you should have left the tiniest bit of curiosity enough to seek out some facts about current events unfolding in front of you. Maybe consider Russian military capability displayed in recent conflicts they've been engaged. Maybe not all the way back to WWII. How about Chechnya or Georgia? Maybe even Syria. The CIA narrative doesn't hold. They are a professional military with modern weapons. NATO knows.
October 5, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Then you're a tool. I know the CIA propaganda is strong. You're fed that BS on a daily basis, all day. But, you should have left the tiniest bit of curiosity enough to seek out some facts about current events unfolding in front of you. Maybe consider Russian military capability displayed in recent conflicts they've been engaged. Maybe not all the way back to WWII. How about Chechnya or Georgia? Maybe even Syria. The CIA narrative doesn't hold. They are a professional military with modern weapons. NATO knows. Like afghanistan? Another utter failure
October 5, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: But I was a U.S. citizen and served in the U.S. military. We have an actual history that parallels and contradicts your hypothetical scenario. 🤣
October 6, 20223 yr 44 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Then you're a tool. I've been called worse by people that matter. "Commie"
October 6, 20223 yr I am still Interested to see how the Nord Stream bombing shakes out. Biden is on record of saying he'll take it out. Emphasized that fact when asked about it. Now that it's happened complete denial. Did he follow through on a promise or did Russia make his promise come true? Inquiring minds want to know.
October 6, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, Toastrel said: TEW's movable goal posts!! Always ready to serve. You're insane for pretending your scenario is the only valid possibility, and defending it past the point of idiocy. I have never said it’s the only valid possibility. Quite the opposite you illiterate moron — I’ve talked about it in terms of risk/reward, literally a probabilistic framework. Now go take your dementia meds.
October 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: Now go take your dementia meds. Repent and quit promoting Big Pharma. He's way more entertaining this way.
October 6, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, mayanh8 said: Everyone is entitled to be afraid of nuclear war. That was never something that was in question. The topic up for debate is, what are the risk levels for escalation that would lead to an increased chance of the use of nuclear weapons. What you're arguing is that all actions should be governed by fear of nuclear war, not by risk of escalation. It's a totally illogical frame of reference and it's why you're getting this same reaction from the rest of us. Yeah, totally illogical to account for the risk of a Fing nuclear war and argue that even if it is a low probability event you don’t take that chance. It’s not like the entire Cold War was based on this premises and that we spent the last 60+ years avoiding any direct military action with Russia/USSR precisely because the possibility of a nuclear war breaking out was too catastrophic to even contemplate for rational actors. This is just insane new levels of clown world. But, again, luckily Biden and his advisors aren’t complete lunatics like their voters.
October 6, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, Gannan said: No, I'm saying we need to not fear the possibility of military action. Let Ukraine into NATO. Give Putin an ultimatum to withdraw. He will. He's a coward. It’s not fear, it’s a sober assessment of risk/reward. You don’t put existential risk on the table when you don’t have to. It’s really that simple. Ukraine is winning. Keep doing what we are doing, and it looks like Ukraine will win without putting nuclear holocaust on the 2022 bingo card. Once they win, and military activities have ceased, then you can let them into NATO. And that solves the issue for the foreseeable future. But not before, because that forces us into a scenario where the two largest nuclear powers are shooting at each other.
October 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: Then you're a tool. I know the CIA propaganda is strong. You're fed that BS on a daily basis, all day. But, you should have left the tiniest bit of curiosity enough to seek out some facts about current events unfolding in front of you. Maybe consider Russian military capability displayed in recent conflicts they've been engaged. Maybe not all the way back to WWII. How about Chechnya or Georgia? Maybe even Syria. The CIA narrative doesn't hold. They are a professional military with modern weapons. NATO knows. It's painfully obvious that Ukrainians are better trained and equipped than Russians. It's not even close. Russians army looks fine when it's going up against Syrian rebels who are underequipped and undertrained. But Ukraine has been preparing for this for 8 years. They waged a defense in depth campaign in the east during the first months of the war, limiting their own casualties while inflicted significant casualties on the attacking force, while at the same time decisively turning away the invaders' attempt at Kyiv. At the same time their professional army was on the defensive, Ukraine mobilized and trained a capable professional army over the last 4-6 mos. In the interim their artillery capabilities were upgraded by Western arms suppliers and they began to terrorize Russia's army in the rear, impacting logistics and taking out targets of opportunity in the form of Russian command centers when they were identified. And now that mobilized army is trained and ready, fighting in their homeland against an invading force, led by superior leadership and intelligence networks against a tired enemy fighting in foreign territory for reasons the common soldier questions, underfed and underequipped. If mobilized Russian troops see the battlefield in Ukraine before Spring they will be completely unprepared, and truly be cannon fodder.
October 6, 20223 yr 41 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, totally illogical to account for the risk of a Fing nuclear war and argue that even if it is a low probability event you don’t take that chance. It’s not like the entire Cold War was based on this premises and that we spent the last 60+ years avoiding any direct military action with Russia/USSR precisely because the possibility of a nuclear war breaking out was too catastrophic to even contemplate for rational actors. This is just insane new levels of clown world. But, again, luckily Biden and his advisors aren’t complete lunatics like their voters. By this logic, our assistance thus far could be seen as a provocation and could result in escalation so apparently we shouldn't have taken that chance.
October 6, 20223 yr weird that the Russians are the ones miming the Not-zees in this war. Edit: follow up to this appears to show the teeth are from a local dentist.
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