October 7, 20223 yr There is a much larger presence of both CIA and U.S. special operations personnel and resources in Ukraine than there were at the time of the Russian invasion in February, several current and former intelligence officials told The Intercept. https://theintercept.com/2022/10/05/russia-ukraine-putin-cia/ Sending military advisors to a proxy war. Sweet!
October 7, 20223 yr 2008: 23. NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia. https://web.archive.org/web/20200714204022/http://www.summitbucharest.gov.ro/en/doc_202.html What happened and why is it taking so long?
October 7, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: "our fight" said the liberal neocon Liberals turning into neocons, unbelievable. Its not our fight. F off. Im happy to support them but this is most definitely not our fight. There are injustices all over the world, are they "our fights" too? Bull ish. I bet that guys standing right in line for military service Rick Wilson isn't a liberal, he’s a neocon.
October 7, 20223 yr What will the U.S. Response be if Putin uses a tactical nuke in Ukraine? 1. Invade Ukraine and kick the Russians Out? 2. Establish and enforce a No Fly Zone in Ukraine? 3. Launch a retaliatory nuclear strike against Russia? 4. Invade Russia to try and over throw Putin? 5. Nothing more than Sanctions and U.N. resolutions?
October 7, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Rick Wilson isn't a liberal, he’s a neocon. Yeah sure, whatever TDSers call themselves Im talking about all the devoted liberal followers cheering on his warmongering. Its like the world is upside down from the Iraq days
October 7, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Gannan said: Helping western style democracies who like us, against tyrants who hate us is in our national security interests. When they also provide geographic and tactical advantage over said foe, it's even more so in our national security interests. Yeah ok, I know you agree with me but you just want to argue This is not "our fight"...that is warmongering bullish from someone who definitely wont be doing any of the actual fighting.
October 7, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Toastrel said: I bet you cheer for every war started by a Republican. No dip ish, Im not a Republican I just supported Trump. For literally the 100th time in here. I was against IEF/OEF, against Syria, against all these stupid arse foreign conflicts that the neocons/progressive liberals decide are "our fights (courtesy of the taxpayers of the USA)"
October 7, 20223 yr 10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah sure, whatever TDSers call themselves Im talking about all the devoted liberal followers cheering on his warmongering. Its like the world is upside down from the Iraq days You are thoroughly confused, as per usual. Go back and start over.
October 7, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah ok, I know you agree with me but you just want to argue This is not "our fight"...that is warmongering bullish from someone who definitely wont be doing any of the actual fighting. Wanting to supply Ukraine is warmongering?
October 7, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: No dip ish, Im not a Republican I just supported Trump. For literally the 100th time in here. I was against IEF/OEF, against Syria, against all these stupid arse foreign conflicts that the neocons/progressive liberals decide are "our fights (courtesy of the taxpayers of the USA)" You are now. The entire GQP platform is now nothing more than simple fealty to the orange messiah.
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: You are thoroughly confused, as per usual. Go back and start over. No Im not. Read his little post and loom at all the Alphabet people cheering him on for tickling their neocon fancies The left has thoroughly embraced this conflict as "their own" and has made that a political stance The Lincoln Project is a wing of the DNC at this point and you know it. Id ask you to stop playing semantics but that covers 99% of your cognitive ouput
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Wanting to supply Ukraine is warmongering? No dumbarse. Go read my f'ing post like 4 times and try to stop being a contrarian jackarse Embracing this as "our fight" is warmongering. It isnt our fight. Ukraine isnt our country. This will never be "our fight" no matter how much you want a war 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: You are now. The entire GQP platform is now nothing more than simple fealty to the orange messiah. Nope, Im an Independent. Sorry TDS has fried your brain to the point that youre a card-carrying Democrat, Mr Pretend Libertarian
October 7, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: No Im not. Read his little post and loom at all the Alphabet people cheering him on for tickling their neocon fancies The left has thoroughly embraced this conflict as "their own" and has made that a political stance The Lincoln Project is a wing of the DNC at this point and you know it. Id ask you to stop playing semantics but that covers 99% of your cognitive ouput Cheering him on for wanting to supply Ukraine? He's not saying to put boots on the ground. Admit it, you just saw Lincoln Project and had a knee jerk reaction without realizing you're agreeing with him.
October 7, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Cheering him on for wanting to supply Ukraine? He's not saying to put boots on the ground. Admit it, you just saw Lincoln Project and had a knee jerk reaction without realizing you're agreeing with him. Nope, you admit it, you saw I posted and your mental illness causes you to immediately argue with whatever I say
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: No dumbarse. Go read my f'ing post like 4 times and try to stop being a contrarian jackarseEmbracing this as "our fight" is warmongering. It isnt our fight. Ukraine isnt our country. He's saying it's our fight to advocate for supplying Ukraine. He's not saying we should get involved in direct conflict. Do you think we should stop suppling Ukraine? Quote This will never be "our fight" no matter how much you want a war Nope, Im an Independent. Sorry TDS has fried your brain to the point that youre a card-carrying Democrat, Mr Pretend Libertarian So we should stop supplying Ukraine? Is that what you're saying? 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Nope, you admit it, you saw I posted and your mental illness causes you to immediately argue with whatever I say You clearly didnt watch the video. You already admitted we should keep supplying Ukraine.
October 7, 20223 yr No hes not saying that. STFU, youre a clown Theyre positioning this as a political issue as if we must have some sort of total, unquestionable and unwavering support for Ukraine F off, its not our fight. Period.
October 7, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mike31mt said: "our fight" said the liberal neocon Liberals turning into neocons, unbelievable. Its not our fight. F off. Im happy to support them but this is most definitely not our fight. There are injustices all over the world, are they "our fights" too? Bull ish. I bet that guys standing right in line for military service So what support did you mean here exactly?
October 7, 20223 yr WGB running to all my posts to see which word he can argue about to impress his pretend EMB friends
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: No hes not saying that. STFU, youre a clown Theyre positioning this as a political issue as if we must have some sort of total, unquestionable and unwavering support for Ukraine F off, its not our fight. Period. So triggered after admitting you and lincoln project think we should keep supplying Ukraine.
October 7, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: So what support did you mean here exactly? Strategically and with limited supplies. Is this "our fight" WGB? Say it, libertarian WGB mad because I wont watch Lincoln Project propaganda. Classic.
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: WGB running to all my posts to see which word he can argue about to impress his pretend EMB friends Mike whenever he accidentally agrees with Lincoln Project... Just now, Mike31mt said: Strategically and with limited supplies. Is this "our fight" WGB? Say it, libertarian WGB mad because I wont watch Lincoln Project propaganda. Classic. We already know you didn't watch it
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Is this "our fight" WGB? I want to hear the libertarian say it Yes, it's our fight via proxy. Russia is our enemy. If it wasn't our fight, you should be fuming at the amount of money spent in helping them to date. You're not making any sense. You're just shouting at clouds. Take a few deep breaths, collect your thoughts, then come back and try again.
October 7, 20223 yr Is this true WGB: Republicans want America to abandon Ukraine, a sovereign nation invaded by a tyrannical dictator. They’d rather we support a man who’s killed thousands and threatened to strike our homeland with nuclear weapons. Unless you fully support Ukraine, youd rather support Putin. Theyre making it a divisive political issue because, like you, their brains are thoroughly destroyed by Trump and they dont know how to function.
October 7, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yes, it's our fight via proxy. Russia is our enemy. If it wasn't our fight, you should be fuming at the amount of money spent in helping them to date. You're not making any sense. You're just shouting at clouds. Take a few deep breaths, collect your thoughts, then come back and try again. Theres the libertarian advocating for proxy wars. The you from 2016 would be so proud of this take! The 2016 WGB would have fought the 2022 WGB for days over this. Psychotic
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