October 10, 20223 yr Great question. Why is NATO and the US administration allowing a genocide of Ukrainians?
October 10, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: Why is this dude wearing swastikas? No, that's Russian propaganda. 3rd item. when blurred it starts to resemble a swastika but it is not.
October 10, 20223 yr half of the missiles Russia launched were shot down. no defense system is 100%. and Russia is launching missiles across Ukraine, I doubt Ukraine has enough to cover everywhere.
October 10, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: half of the missiles Russia launched were shot down. no defense system is 100%. and Russia is launching missiles across Ukraine, I doubt Ukraine has enough to cover everywhere. The best US defense system was covering Kyiv. NATO aircraft would have helped to take down more missiles. Face it, it's time to bring in NATO. Russia may have decided to wage an actual war.
October 10, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: Take a look at the horrific pictures and videos. "Half" shot down isn't cutting it. Bring in NATO to stop the war. Not gunna happen, anytime soon. This is basically the definition of a proxy war. Not sure why you would wish for nuclear war? Blowing up a bridge = attack on civilian targets, which was expected. A dozen countries armed forces actively fighting Russia on Russia's doorstep = nukes freely getting lobbed back and forth, which is 100% certain. That's no a stop to the war, it's an extreme escalation with potential for millions, if not billions to die. A crazed cornered animal lashes out at everyone/everything
October 10, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: The best US defense system was covering Kyiv. NATO aircraft would have helped to take down more missiles. Face it, it's time to bring in NATO. Russia may have decided to wage an actual war. No, it isn't: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-not-yet-delivered-nasams-air-defenses-ukraine-pentagon-2022-09-27/
October 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, CountBlah said: Not gunna happen, anytime soon. This is basically the definition of a proxy war. Not sure why you would wish for nuclear war? Blowing up a bridge = attack on civilian targets, which was expected. A dozen countries armed forces actively fighting Russia on Russia's doorstep = nukes freely getting lobbed back and forth, which is 100% certain. That's no a stop to the war, it's an extreme escalation with potential for millions, if not billions to die. A crazed cornered animal lashes out at everyone/everything Russia won't stop until they are made to stop. Besides, Russia doesn't want to start a nuclear war.
October 10, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: No, it isn't: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-not-yet-delivered-nasams-air-defenses-ukraine-pentagon-2022-09-27/ AIR DEFENSE DOMINANCE: Jason Jay Smart @officejjsmart reports that UKR Pres. Vladimir Zelensky has confirmed that Ukraine has deployed NASAMS air defense systems. Gee, it's like all sides lie about everything in this war.
October 10, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: Russia won't stop until they are made to stop. Besides, Russia doesn't want to start a nuclear war. Sounds a lot like Russia trying to downplay the blowback from threatening to use Nukes. Just look at the reaction from within Russia, to the bridge attack. They whined like little babies and called it a terrorist act, while THEY are targeting civilians daily, raping, torturing, etc... They can dish it out, but they can't take it. Park a dozen enemy armies on their doorstep, or even inside what they now consider Russian territory, and you've all but forced Vlad to push the button. The man is a psychopath and they don't understand reason. The best bet for an end is an internal Russian action to stop Vlad, as thousands and thousands of more ill-equiped Russian fodder soldiers go into the meatgrinder.
October 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, dawkdaballhawk said: AIR DEFENSE DOMINANCE: Jason Jay Smart @officejjsmart reports that UKR Pres. Vladimir Zelensky has confirmed that Ukraine has deployed NASAMS air defense systems. Gee, it's like all sides lie about everything in this war. sigh .. no, he did not confirm it. it was an incorrect translation that was corrected within a day back on Sept 26th. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine-president-face-the-nation-transcript-09-25-2022/ here's politico 5 days ago: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/05/ukraine-advances-air-defenses-putin-00060580 Quote Kyiv is, however, slated to receive two Raytheon-made National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems by November, Defense Department officials have said. The systems can knock down drones, missiles and helicopters — which is just what Ukraine is looking for. Yet there are worries that those systems, along with six more slated to be contracted and delivered in the future, won’t arrive quickly enough to give Ukraine the air cover it needs. The first two NASAMS this fall "are not sufficient air defense,” said one Ukrainian adviser who asked to speak anonymously to discuss arms deliveries. "We’re not talking Stingers here. We’re talking about something that has mid-range and higher ranges.” It will likely take time for those weapons to arrive. Western countries are reluctant to give up their own advanced missile defense capabilities. Plus, contracting, building and training crews on how to operate them takes years.
October 10, 20223 yr Just now, JohnSnowsHair said: sigh .. no, he did not confirm it. it was an incorrect translation that was corrected within a day back on Sept 26th. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/volodymyr-zelenskyy-ukraine-president-face-the-nation-transcript-09-25-2022/ here's politico 5 days ago: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/05/ukraine-advances-air-defenses-putin-00060580 So NATO left Ukraine's capitol city with no air defenses. Maybe that's why you don't want NATO to take down Russia?
October 10, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: So NATO left Ukraine's capitol city with no air defenses. Maybe that's why you don't want NATO to take down Russia? I'd love to see NATO take down Russia. But that's probably not a smart play. Better to have Ukraine fight the war with NATO weapons. I imagine in the wake of these increased attacks on civilians by the terrorists in Moscow that missile air defense systems will be expedited.
October 10, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: So NATO left Ukraine's capitol city with no air defenses. Maybe that's why you don't want NATO to take down Russia? You really are fing retarded.
October 10, 20223 yr The problem with western air defenses is that there's a lack of production capacity. Over the last two decades of fighting COIN, we haven't needed anti air capabilities so they weren't developed and purchased. Which is utterly dumb because anyone with two brain cells stuck together could see the writing on the wall about having to face a near peer adversary, coupled with the fact that US anti air doctrine is planes doing the work instead of SAM sites. The one country who knows what they're doing on this is Israel, and they aren't sharing anything to anyone for security reasons. So yeah. I think this has to do with the Russian's new theater commander, who just got the job Saturday. He's trying to make a statement that will backfire.
October 10, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Bill said: The problem with western air defenses is that there's a lack of production capacity. Over the last two decades of fighting COIN, we haven't needed anti air capabilities so they weren't developed and purchased. Which is utterly dumb because anyone with two brain cells stuck together could see the writing on the wall about having to face a near peer adversary, coupled with the fact that US anti air doctrine is planes doing the work instead of SAM sites. The one country who knows what they're doing on this is Israel, and they aren't sharing anything to anyone for security reasons. So yeah. I think this has to do with the Russian's new theater commander, who just got the job Saturday. He's trying to make a statement that will backfire. Not to mention Western doctrine is more about air superiority rather than needing land based air defense, like Russian that, even before we saw how poorly their air force was during this war, was vastly behind NATO air dominance.
October 10, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Bill said: The problem with western air defenses is that there's a lack of production capacity. Over the last two decades of fighting COIN, we haven't needed anti air capabilities so they weren't developed and purchased. Which is utterly dumb because anyone with two brain cells stuck together could see the writing on the wall about having to face a near peer adversary, coupled with the fact that US anti air doctrine is planes doing the work instead of SAM sites. The one country who knows what they're doing on this is Israel, and they aren't sharing anything to anyone for security reasons. So yeah. I think this has to do with the Russian's new theater commander, who just got the job Saturday. He's trying to make a statement that will backfire. "I’m greatly concerned. Unless we have new production, which takes months to ramp up, we’re not going to have the ability to supply the Ukrainians,” Des Roches told CNBC. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/28/the-us-and-europe-are-running-out-of-weapons-to-send-to-ukraine.html Putin could just rope-a-dope until the weapons run out or the US can get on a war footing and ramp up production.
October 10, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Bill said: The problem with western air defenses is that there's a lack of production capacity. Over the last two decades of fighting COIN, we haven't needed anti air capabilities so they weren't developed and purchased. Which is utterly dumb because anyone with two brain cells stuck together could see the writing on the wall about having to face a near peer adversary, coupled with the fact that US anti air doctrine is planes doing the work instead of SAM sites. The one country who knows what they're doing on this is Israel, and they aren't sharing anything to anyone for security reasons. So yeah. I think this has to do with the Russian's new theater commander, who just got the job Saturday. He's trying to make a statement that will backfire. This indicated a shift from the SMO to a combined arms war. The strategic objectives have changed. Now that Bakhmut is nearly liberated, the heavily fortified defenses of the occupying regime are almost completely demilitarized from Donbas. Grab a chair, NATO freaks.
October 10, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Bill said: The problem with western air defenses is that there's a lack of production capacity. Over the last two decades of fighting COIN, we haven't needed anti air capabilities so they weren't developed and purchased. Which is utterly dumb because anyone with two brain cells stuck together could see the writing on the wall about having to face a near peer adversary, coupled with the fact that US anti air doctrine is planes doing the work instead of SAM sites. The one country who knows what they're doing on this is Israel, and they aren't sharing anything to anyone for security reasons. So yeah. I think this has to do with the Russian's new theater commander, who just got the job Saturday. He's trying to make a statement that will backfire. Surovikin is a real POS. 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: This indicated a shift from the SMO to a combined arms war. The strategic objectives have changed. Now that Bakhmut is nearly liberated, the heavily fortified defenses of the occupying regime are almost completely demilitarized from Donbas. Grab a chair, NATO freaks. Bakhmut
October 10, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said: Why is this dude wearing swastikas? Won't stop Russia at this point. NATO needs to join the fray to put an end to this insanity. The traitorous trio (abra, daballhawk, and TEW) once again proving that mental illness is the real pandmic
October 10, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said: For Ukraine's sake, I hope this is fake news. Ukraine is not going to risk western support by opening up a two-front war. Preposterous.
October 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Bakhmut Right. Brag about taking an abandoned hamlet in the middle of nowhere but a fortified city of 100,000 is no big deal. That's how you win a media war but get slaughtered in real combat.
October 10, 20223 yr Just now, Abracadabra said: Right. Brag about taking an abandoned hamlet in the middle of nowhere but a fortified city of 100,000 is no big deal. That's how you win a media war but get slaughtered in real combat. Russia has spent what, 2 mos on Bakhmut? They've committed their best troops to a single town, where Ukrainian defenders have been tremendous in occupying this force while all around them Ukrainians make progress. By the time they get Bakhmut they'll be in crap shape while the Ukrainian defenders will have an easy path to retreat. Another pyrrhic victory for the RuAF while Ukraine continues to take back territory elsewhere at a much faster pace.
October 10, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Ukraine is not going to risk western support by opening up a two-front war. Preposterous. But why would Lukashenko lie about something like that??? I don't understand why he would lie!
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