Bremmer made up fake quotes before.

US stockpiles of some equipment are "reaching the minimum levels needed for war plans and training," and restocking to pre-invasion levels could take years, Mark Cancian of the Center for Strategic and International Studies wrote in a recent analysis.

US stocks of ammunition for Himars -- which fires GPS-guided rockets known as GMLRS, with a range of more than 80 kilometers (50 miles) -- are dwindling.

https://news.yahoo.com/us-ammunition-supplies-dwindle-ukraine-013112785.html

 

53 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

 

 

I'm not sure why people love to hate Elon, I guess because of his wealth? Jealousy?  But imagine thinking that story was true, without fact checking it? Now who would do such a thing? 

On 10/4/2022 at 8:54 PM, Abracadabra said:

"In the course of the events in Ukraine, a new extremely dangerous trend has emerged. We are talking about the use by the United States and its allies of civilian infrastructure components in space, including commercial ones, for military purposes," the diplomat said. "Such activities, in fact, represent indirect participation in armed conflicts, and quasi-civilian infrastructure can be a legitimate target for retaliation. As a result of the actions of the West, the sustainability of peaceful space activities, as well as numerous socio-economic processes on Earth, on which the well-being of people depends, are exposed to undue risks."

Vladimir Yermakov, Director of the Department for Non-Proliferation and Arms Control of the Russian Foreign Ministry

 

Maybe Musk got the message. 

The CIA doesn't want to admit that those damned Ruskies can disrupt Starlink and, therefore, any of the crap they have, including those used in the THADD system.

The apologists are running with the CIA cover story fingering Musk as a traitor to their Not-Z proxy. Vice seals the deal in the minds of mental midgets.

OK, I changed my mind — Musk is guilty. Hang him.

22 hours ago, Bill said:

 

I'm in theater. Have been for awhile. No plans to leave. Instructing.

 

That’s cool. I was in Iraq for 12 months, didn’t make me an expert on all things Iraq. I appreciate your perspective but it doesn’t make your opinion about US troops going head to head with Russian any more or less correct. 
 

Can we all agree they Efflin isn’t an Effin closer. 

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

I'm not sure why people love to hate Elon, I guess because of his wealth? Jealousy?  But imagine thinking that story was true, without fact checking it? Now who would do such a thing? 

He dared to share some opinions that differ from media/hollywood mandated opinion.  He also stated that while he has voted for Democrats, he said he'd consider voting for a Republican.   Thus, he MUST be hated and ridiculed.  No middle ground allowed!!!

1 hour ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

US stockpiles of some equipment are "reaching the minimum levels needed for war plans and training," and restocking to pre-invasion levels could take years, Mark Cancian of the Center for Strategic and International Studies wrote in a recent analysis.

US stocks of ammunition for Himars -- which fires GPS-guided rockets known as GMLRS, with a range of more than 80 kilometers (50 miles) -- are dwindling.

https://news.yahoo.com/us-ammunition-supplies-dwindle-ukraine-013112785.html

 

Good thing we will likely never need HIMARS with our air power.  Give a me freaking break already!

2 hours ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

 

 

"Mass demonstrations"

There were .. dozens of us! 

In other news, Trump's inauguration had the bigliest crowds ever!

1 hour ago, Tnt4philly said:

That’s cool. I was in Iraq for 12 months, didn’t make me an expert on all things Iraq. I appreciate your perspective but it doesn’t make your opinion about US troops going head to head with Russian any more or less correct. 
 

Can we all agree they Efflin isn’t an Effin closer. 

Actually it does but nice try

 

 

7 hours ago, vikas83 said:

What

The

HELL

https://www.vice.com/en/article/ake44z/elon-musk-vladimir-putin-ukraine

 

Now he thinks he can negotiate on behalf of a sovereign nation. To say some of these billionaires have a god complex is a gross understatement. It's mental illness. I haven't forgotten your story about Mars and the H bombs. 

8 minutes ago, Gannan said:

Now he thinks he can negotiate on behalf of a sovereign nation. To say some of these billionaires have a god complex is a gross understatement. It's mental illness. I haven't forgotten your story about Mars and the H bombs. 

No different than politicians in general.

Not that Elon would be considered a top tier candidate in the matter but all things considered it's not any worse than the show elected officials have been putting on.

I think Elon has basically told Ukraine, "I will help you defend your sovereignty, and all the territory you own right now. These borders existed as they are since 1991 and it is not up to me to decide who owns areas like Crimea. Im with you up until you decide to go try to take back other territories. My equipment wont work there. That is not the fight I am choosing to help with."

IF he spoke with Putin recently, he has probably reassured him that his interest is aligned with the US. He will help Ukraine defend their current territory. He is not interested in helping Ukraine attack on Russian soil.

If you already disliked him before this, youll hate him for that I guess. 

If you are unbiased and not butthurt over twitter and the way Musk has voted in political elections in the past, youll accept that as very reasonable.

 

 

30 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I think Elon has basically told Ukraine, "I will help you defend your sovereignty, and all the territory you own right now. These borders existed as they are since 1991 and it is not up to me to decide who owns areas like Crimea. Im with you up until you decide to go try to take back other territories. My equipment wont work there. That is not the fight I am choosing to help with."

IF he spoke with Putin recently, he has probably reassured him that his interest is aligned with the US. He will help Ukraine defend their current territory. He is not interested in helping Ukraine attack on Russian soil.

If you already disliked him before this, youll hate him for that I guess. 

If you are unbiased and not butthurt over twitter and the way Musk has voted in political elections in the past, youll accept that as very reasonable.

 

 

Surely, the socialist trumpbot who wasn't even aware that the starlink outages were in Ukrainian territory is the well informed and unbaised source of truth on the matter. Thanks for setting us straight.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Surely, the socialist trumpbot who wasn't even aware that the starlink outages were in Ukrainian territory is the well informed and unbaised source of truth on the matter. Thanks for setting us straight.

The outages in russian territory are potentially interesting, IF he actually had a recent meeting with Putin. Which may or may not even be true. As I said- wait and see.

Possibly, that meeting hasnt actually happened. Musk is respecting current borders as they have been for decades, while trying to help defend Ukraine's sovereignty and current borders. Outages were probably expected, maybe even quite likely as they are an obvious target Russia would be consistently trying to take out.

Of course you guys want to rush to judgement on a story that shines a negative light on Musk, because you dont like him. However, there are many rational explanations as to what could be going on.

Im in wait and see mode with questions to be answered- Did the meeting happen? How widespread are these outages? Who is responsible? How fast were they fixed, or is the issue becoming more widespread and slow to be fixed? If allowing this communication system to fall apart is by design, how did Putin convince him? Did Musk allow himself to get bought, or were there threats made?

 Im fine waiting for info and calling him what he is when the information is in front of us. Hes either a hero, or a traitor. We dont know yet. But I know you want to leap to conclusions.

 

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

I will help you defend your sovereignty, and all the territory you own right now. These borders existed as they are since 1991 and it is not up to me to decide who owns areas like Crimea. Im with you up until you decide to go try to take back other territories. My equipment wont work there. That is not the fight I am choosing to help with."

So is he going to help them get Crimea back like it was decades ago, or is he ok with leaving that to Russia like it has been since 8 years ago? 

1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said:

So is he going to help them get Crimea back like it was decades ago, or is he ok with leaving that to Russia like it has been since 8 years ago? 

From whats been reported it sounds as if he knows that is not his fight to decide. Pretty much the opposite of the God complex that was suggested a few posts ago.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

From whats been reported it sounds as if he knows that is not his fight to decide. Pretty much the opposite of the God complex that was suggested a few posts ago.

You suggested he is going to help reestablish ukraines borders. That would include Crimea. You’re trying to have it both ways. He’s going to help, but not for that section of the country. 

7 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Hes not a private contractor. Hes some guy with a bunch of toys who said hey! I have some walkie talkies you can play with that might help you

lol wut?

Of course SpaceX is a private contracting company. And it was paid millions by the U.S. government for Ukrainian access to Starlink terminals. 

https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/8/23016670/starlink-spacex-us-government-terminals-funding-usaid

7 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

You suggested he is going to help reestablish ukraines borders. That would include Crimea. You’re trying to have it both ways. He’s going to help, but not for that section of the country. 

I did not... You have definitely misunderstood what you read.

In fact I said he would help defend Ukraines borders, as they are today. Not help them take back territory. Hes making it clear that he is not interested in that fight because it would escalate Russia's response.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Ukraine, "I will help you defend your sovereignty, and all the territory you own right now.

That’s Crimea

5 minutes ago, mayanh8 said:

lol wut?

Of course SpaceX is a private contracting company. And it was paid millions by the U.S. government for Ukrainian access to Starlink terminals. 

https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/8/23016670/starlink-spacex-us-government-terminals-funding-usaid

I thought it was obvious, but what I mean is he is not a military contractor. Especially, neither are his employees.

I seriously doubt Ukraine and the USA are allowing some regular space x shift workers who were just trying to establish internet for people in rural areas to suddenly control satellite communications for their military.

Surely strategic positioning of these satellites, and information broadcast through them are going to be confidential. Not for Ned with his computer programming degree to know. I dont think these people have signed up for the change in job assignments. From working on launches to expand internet connectivity to thwarting Russian cyber attacks on their systems flying over Ukraine.

If I was any of those regular Joes working for starlink, Id be worried about when Russia was going to poison me and disappear my family. Thats not the job they signed up for. 

 

Musk sent these satellites there because Ukraine asked and it was a noble thing to do. Musk expressed some concern about his wellbeing during that time. Russians tried to shut those things down, and starlink people immediately rewrote code to thwart the attack. US military personnel spoke about how our military was going to actually need to learn from starlink how to do these things so efficiently. Likely, it was very soon after that point that US paid for all of the equipment and no doubt took control of those units that are serving Ukraine.

 

12 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said:

That’s Crimea

Do Ukraine and Russia agree on that?

Horrible look 

 

1 minute ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Horrible look 

 

It's a completely sensible look.