1 hour ago, we_gotta_believe said:

If that was the case, then why would abra still be here? People have had clones before and it was allowed I think for the most part. Procus had the newman one most recently. I thought the only time it runs afoul of the rules is if the clone is used after the main account is suspended or banned.

Maybe spamming with a clone account? I dunno, maybe ask Abra why he was banned?

Not all are blind.

5 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

Not all are blind.

shut up, were, was. 

 

you and your country are past tense. 

1 hour ago, Abracadabra said:

Not all are blind.

Not all are stupid, like you.

 

So you are blaming the Ukraine for the work of the  Einsatzgruppen in the 1940s?

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"By the 2030s the United States will, for the first time in its history face two major nuclear powers as strategic competitors and potential adversaries,” the Defense Department said in the long-awaited document issued Thursday. In response, the US will "maintain a very high bar for nuclear employment” without ruling out using the weapons in retaliation to a non-nuclear strategic threat to the homeland, US forces abroad or allies.

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The nuclear report that’s part of the broader strategy said the Biden administration reviewed its nuclear policy and concluded that "No First Use” and "Sole Purpose” policies "would result in an unacceptable level of risk in light of the range of non-nuclear capabilities being developed and fielded by competitors that could inflict strategic-level damage” to the US and allies.

 

Bloomberg

As I said, it's the U.S. threatening to use nukes, not Russia. This is because NATO is a paper tiger. They know full well that they cannot beat Russia on Russia's doorstep. 

Also, this is a tacit admission that the U.S. is losing the conventional arms race. 

4 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Not all are stupid, like you.

 

So you are blaming the Ukraine for the work of the  Einsatzgruppen in the 1940s?

Talk to the Rabbi, I'm just the messenger. 

32 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

Talk to the Rabbi, I'm just the messenger. 

The Rabbi isn't posting here, suka.

Putin, who sent his troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24, has described Western support for Ukraine as part of broad efforts by Washington and its allies to enforce what they call a rules-based world order that only foments chaos.

 

This is the kind of crap Abra believes. That a "rules based order" foments chaos because Russia can't use its military to bully its neighbors into maintaining economic and cultural ties to Russia.

Russia can't offer nations anything that competes economically or culturally with the West, so they're forced to use force. And they went a nation too far in Ukraine.

Keep defending might makes right losers.

 

 

 

 

Today we remember the expulsion of the NSDAPs, approaching the expulsion of the Rashists - address by Zelenskyy

Every year on this day, we celebrate the liberation of Ukraine from the NSDAP occupiers. We pay tribute to the Ukrainians who fought and defeated Nazism during World War II. Today we do it, holding not flowers in our hands, but weapons. Today, preserving the memory of the exploits of our ancestors means protecting their achievements. We remember the expulsion of the NSDAPs, approaching the expulsion of the Rashists.

...

Sooner or later, memories of a terrible war become a terrible reality. The neighbor becomes the aggressor. The aggressor becomes a terrorist. And Nazism becomes an example to follow. It may come in a new guise, with new slogans, but with the same goal. 

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Evil always begins in the same way. The invaders call themselves liberators. The invasion of one's army is called self-defense. As 80 years ago, the Ukrainian people stand up for the defense of their native land. And the enemy's blitzkrieg plan becomes a failure.

Evil always acts in the same way. Kills civilians, assuring that it hits military targets only. Arranges blockades and filtration camps. And Syrets becomes Olenivka. Destroys cities and villages. And Koryukivka becomes Bucha.

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But sooner or later war crimes become known. The reaction of the world becomes painful. The policy of appeasement becomes a tough countermeasure.

The evil finds itself in a zugzwang.

So evil always ends the same way. The occupier becomes a capitulator. The invader becomes a fugitive. War criminals become defendants, aggression becomes a sentence. Destruction becomes reparations. Enemy equipment becomes museum exhibits. The feats of grandfathers become the victories of grandchildren.

 

 

1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

 

For those of us that aren't following as closely, while we know the general population was buying the "special military operation" hook line and sinker in the beginning, what is the overall feeling now?  Weren't they promised a 2 week engagement?

54 minutes ago, paco said:

For those of us that aren't following as closely, while we know the general population was buying the "special military operation" hook line and sinker in the beginning, what is the overall feeling now?  Weren't they promised a 2 week engagement?

I wouldn't want to overrepresent my knowledge on this, and there's always a bit of a fog over that topic anyway.. that said ..

Moscow has faced more internal criticism from media commentators than is typical in this situation.. guests on some of the propaganda talk shows have been willing to be a bit more critical than they were earlier in the war, and even yesterday (or Wednesday?) Putin himself was directly asked questions that were very pointed and he gave a sort of weak and fumbling answer.

Russians have been told for a generation they are a superpower and that the West is jealous and actively trying to destabilize and reduce its power. Russians who have a couple brain cells are not only questioning whether Russia is actually powerful, but possibly to believe they're much weaker than has been projected. But they are still fairly united in this belief that they're the victims and that Ukraine is Russia, a perverted manifest destiny believing Russia's borders extend at least to the Dnieper. 

Russia seems to go through cycles now where for a generation or two it projects strength it doesn't really have - lack of strength owed mostly to its cultural preferences for authoritarian leaders and centralized management of the economy, which is a breeding ground for kleptocracies and corruption as a lifestyle - only to have the curtain pulled back to reveal a hollowed out military and infrastructure and living standards that lag behind Western powers. It's worth noting that something like 20% of Russians lack indoor plumbing. Some of this is owed to rural living, but the vatniks overcompensate when claiming this 20% is using something like wells and septic; that's false, they're using outdoor commodes and while septic is common so are holes in the ground in common toilets and central wells with zero pipes or facilities in homes. 3rd world living in a 2nd world nation. Anyway, once the emperor is revealed to have no clothes it doesn't take much for Russians to turn.

There's then political anarchy and churn for a generation, but inevitably old habits die hard and Russians look for another "strong man" to erase the sins of the last one and restore Russia to its rightful place. Someone (like Putin) consolidates power and Russians look past the knowns (that he is enriching himself, killing and jailing political enemies, etc.) because that's literally just expected behavior, and as long as the strong man is keeping the "western wolves" at bay it's a small price to pay, eh comrade?

Eventually the cycle repeats. Whether the reckoning comes before or after Putin dies (naturally or otherwise) is anybody's guess. 

Another point there is that coups/revolutions are usually instigated by the youth, and if there is a generation that is simply missing in Russia it's young people. Between brain drain, lack of child bearing, and this stupid war the youth of Russia is shrinking fast.

Were/Was fleeing Kherson ahead of Ukrainian offensive.

The issue with the Russiansnin terms of negotiating, as I have been told here, is that, to them, yes doesn't mean yes. It means maybe.

In the US, when you say yes, you mean yes.

Also, watching what they have playing on their mainstream networks, it's almost a Goebbels level of indoctrination of the populace.

why he called pootin cuz he farts?

nobody wants to become part of Russia, unless the alternative is suicide by ice axe.

 

summary: "we're f'd because our stupid dictator decided he wanted Ukraine, which drained our nation of both manpower and economic demand while simultaneously severing ties with our biggest trading partners."

 

 

Do you fellas see a path for this thing to end without an international confrontation? I don’t really see how anymore.

Feels like Putin has committed too much internal capital to just turn around. He’s going to lose over 100K Russians within a year of the war which is horrific for modern standards.
 

Ukraine, on the other hand, understands that they have the stronger military and probably will win the longer the war drags on in a conventional construct. They have little incentive to cave at this point.

Seems almost inevitable that Russia discards the conventional construct. And logically from their perspective, does it matter especially since the West has been messaging that they’d only respond conventionally? They either lose a protracted war in Ukraine or lose a war with NATO (with a small possibility that their use of nukes in Ukraine actually scares the West off).

 

Red exclamation points !!

Red exclamation points !!

Red exclamation points !!

Poor Russia is getting its fleet attacked so wants to take its bat and ball and go home in the grain trade. 

 

LOL 

Almost 1k Russians died in the last 24 hours assaulting Bakhmut. 

Putin is willing to pay the blood price to take that which isn't Russia's, as long as that price is extracted from poor rural areas with little ability to push back. Throw in a few convicts and boom, cannon fodder.

Liberation of Svatove and Kremenna is imminent. Could be days weeks or months but Russia hasn't been able to hold.