8 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

It’s almost comical how wrong the Russians are about the resolve of the Ukrainians. Bombing and killing innocent civilians is only going to make them want to fight back more. The Russians really give them no choice. It’s not like if the Ukrainians surrender Putin is just going to let them go back to their normal lives. They have to win or die/live their lives as prisoners. Or at best second class citizens. 

1 hour ago, Jsvand12 said:

It’s almost comical how wrong the Russians are about the resolve of the Ukrainians. Bombing and killing innocent civilians is only going to make them want to fight back more. The Russians really give them no choice. It’s not like if the Ukrainians surrender Putin is just going to let them go back to their normal lives. They have to win or die/live their lives as prisoners. Or at best second class citizens. 

For the Russians it's not really about resolve, it's about making Ukraine unlivable by destroying the infrastructure and killing as many Ukrainians as possible.  It's the tactic they used successfully in Aleppo.  

3 hours ago, Mlodj said:

For the Russians it's not really about resolve, it's about making Ukraine unlivable by destroying the infrastructure and killing as many Ukrainians as possible.  It's the tactic they used successfully in Aleppo.  

I get that, I just don’t see the Ukrainians ever letting Russia take and hold the territory no matter how miserable Russia tries to make it. 

 

Apply this to all of European colonialists and we have a start.

Meloni starting to sound like the leader of the free world- Putin.

13 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

 the leader of the free world- Putin.

The Russian Bear. Be afraid. Be very afraid. 

Russian military base near Melitopol destroyed

A military base of the Russian occupiers in the temporarily occupied village of Vesele in Melitopol district has been destroyed.

Source: Ivan Fedorov, Mayor of Melitopol, on Telegram

Quote: "Minus one more military base belonging to the occupiers in Melitopol district.

The enemy certainly did not have any fun [play on words - ‘Vesele’ in Ukrainian means ‘fun’] last night [20 November - ed.] in the temporarily occupied village of Vesele. Three loud explosions were reported.

Based on verified information, the Ruscists were smoking at their own military base which was located in one of the farmer enterprises." ["Smoking" refers to a phrase that went viral because the official reason given for explosions at Russian facilities is their bad habit of smoking - ed.]

5 hours ago, Abracadabra said:

 the leader of the free world- Putin.

Said Zakayev, a Kadyrov Chechen, was liquidated by Ukraine.

Here he is with a pro-Ukrainian in Donetsk 2014, who was tied to a pole and beaten:

 

#RussiaIsATerroristState

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Russian forces which have withdrawn from the southern region of Kherson have now been repositioned to hold ground in the Donbass region. Moscow's troops in Donetsk are understood to be struggling to maintain their grip over the east as the Kremlin's military has consistently lacked proper training and modern weapons supplies. Ukrainian troops are challenging Russia's presence along the P66 highway, which has served as a vital line of communication for Vladimir Putin's military. Amid the ongoing military difficulties, Vladimir Putin is reported to be seeking a "break" in the conflict in a bid to strengthen the capability of Russia's armed forces.   Former senior military and intelligence officer Philip Ingram told Sky News: "We've had reports that the troops that were freed up from Kherson have come across the Dnipro River and moved up into the Donetsk region, which is where the Russian main effort seems to be.  "There has been very heavy shelling, a lot of fighting trying to capture the whole of the Donetsk Oblast and, in particular, around the village of Bakhmut - the Russians not having much success in it.   "They are also building their defences there and they are building their defences further north near Kreminna but the Ukrainians are attacking into the Svatove-Kreminna line."  Mr Ingram continued: "There's a road running down there from Russia and that is important, that's a line of communication that the Russians need to get ammunition and other supplies from Russia down to the troops in the Donbass region.  "Remember the bridge into Crimea has been severely hampered, if not cut [off], so the Russians are having difficulty in getting supplies into the troops that are there."  The combined road and rail bridge connecting Russia to annexed Crimea was severely damaged in an explosion at the beginning of October which saw the bridge partially collapse into the sea.  Mr Ingram added: "Putin wants a break. Zelensky and the Ukrainians have got the momentum at the moment and we're waiting for them to decide where they are going to carry out their next counter-offensive." 

On Monday, the UK Ministry of Defence reported that Russian forces in the Donbass region were "hampered by severe shortage of munitions and skilled personnel".  The analysis follows several earlier reports which indicated Moscow's troops had been operating with poorly-maintained Soviet-era weapons. Furthermore, reserve forces enlisted under President Putin's earlier partial mobilisation decree are understood to have received minimal training ahead of their deployment, making the additional soldiers less effective on the battlefield.  The UK Ministry of Defence suggested: "Commanders are likely struggling with the military realities of maintaining a credible defence, while also attempting to resource offensive operations further south in Donetsk."  Conflict analysts have suggested the war will likely enter a form of temporary stalemate over the winter months as the fierce weather conditions will prevent developments on the frontline.  

Mr Ingram told Sky News: "Winter is having an effect. The ground is very boggy and the first snow is in - it's that boggy ground that stops the armoured formations from manoeuvring properly and is better for the defenders.  "The Russians are digging in to defend but that's all they can do with their poorly trained reservists that are there."  Meanwhile, Ukraine has been strengthened by the provision of extensive Western equipment which has proved to be more modern than the Kremlin arsenal. As the terrain becomes more challenging over the winter period, this elite equipment is likely to prove particularly valuable should Ukraine push on with counter-offensive operations.

 

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1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

 

Always with the porn these people 

 

 

Just now, Mlodj said:

 

BYW, the point of these two videos is that continued European support for the Ukrainians and sanctions might be problematic.

We gotta be up to two trillion by now, right?

The ‘Generous Gifts’ Russian Forces Left Behind in Kherson

https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-the-generous-gifts-russian-forces-left-behind-in-kherson/6843754.html

 

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On November 11, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov portrayed the retreat as orderly, claiming that not a single serviceman, piece of military equipment or weapon was left on the right bank of the Dnipro River.

Konashenkov said:

"On November 11, by 05:00 Moscow time, an operation was completed in the Kherson direction to transfer a group of Russian troops to the left bank of the Dnipro River. All personnel, weapons and military equipment of the group have been withdrawn to the left bank.”

Except all the stuff they left behind, like troops, vehicle and weapons.

They spent a lot of time wrecking the civilian infrastructure before leaving. Heating, electricity, etc., are now having to be repaired/replaced by Ukraine. 

Multiple videos of Ukrainian Not-zzz executing POWs with shots to the head have surfaced, probably with many more to come. Obvious war crimes are routinely committed by NATO proxy forces for all the world to see and it's met with complete silence from London, Washington, Paris and Berlin. 

Even with a mountain of video evidence, the U.N. only sheepishly broaches the subject in vague terms.

The Russians are patient. Justice will be served. The Zelensky regime will be held accountable.

1 hour ago, Abracadabra said:

Multiple videos of Ukrainian Not-zzz executing POWs with shots to the head have surfaced, probably with many more to come. Obvious war crimes are routinely committed by NATO proxy forces for all the world to see and it's met with complete silence from London, Washington, Paris and Berlin. 

Even with a mountain of video evidence, the U.N. only sheepishly broaches the subject in vague terms.

The Russians are patient. Justice will be served. The Zelensky regime will be held accountable.

That’s impossible. The Russians just reported that the retreat was orderly and no troops were lost….

28 minutes ago, Jsvand12 said:

That’s impossible. The Russians just reported that the retreat was orderly and no troops were lost….

The guy is an asshat.  Put him on ignore 

Reports of summary executions of civilians as well. Those two are probably dead by now.

2 minutes ago, Abracadabra said:

Reports of summary executions of civilian as well. Those two are probably dead by now.

please drink a runny dump from a toilet with a long straw