December 22, 20223 yr Russia Admits it Wasn't Ready For Putin's Mobilization Order https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-admits-it-wasnt-ready-for-putins-mobilization-order/ar-AA15yvqs Quote Shoigu, during a discussion between Putin and Russia's top military officials, acknowledged that his ministry faced difficulties after the Russian president ordered the mobilization of 300,000 reservists to fight in Ukraine. "With the beginning of partial mobilization, the Russian Defense Ministry encountered certain difficulties," the minister said in Moscow. According to Shoigu, sudden changes had to be made to the organizational and staffing structures of military command and control bodies, formations and units. "The mobilization training system itself was not fully adapted to the new economic relations. Therefore, with the beginning of partial mobilization, we encountered difficulties in alerting and calling up citizens who were in reserve. All the shortcomings had to be corrected on the go," Shoigu explained. If they admit this, what is the truth?
December 22, 20223 yr Russia’s sole aircraft carrier catches fire https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-sole-aircraft-carrier-catches-fire/ar-AA15yCwB Quote The Admiral Kuznetsov, a flagship of the Russian Navy, suffered a "minor” fire while undergoing repair work at a shipyard in the Arctic port of Murmansk, according to reports by the Russian state Tass and RIA Novosti news agencies.
December 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Seeing the Wagner Group fed into a meat grinder is one of the better things to come out of this offensive. 6 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Russia’s sole aircraft carrier catches fire https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-sole-aircraft-carrier-catches-fire/ar-AA15yCwB That thing has spent more time pier side than at sea.
December 22, 20223 yr NATO's Not-zzz literally force feeding Ukrainians into a meatgrinder. Disgusting!
December 22, 20223 yr 16 hours ago, Bill said: 70% losses in Bakhmut? I'm assuming losses refer to KIA? I literally trained a whole light infantry company that went to Bakhmut and their "losses" were *Checks notes* 2% Their overall casualty rate was better than my grandfathers company when he served under Patton. If you had to ballpark casualties for both sides, what would it be? Does the over 100k for both sides + about 50k civilians sound right?
December 22, 20223 yr How would Tucker Carlson know how a Manager at Strip club dresses? Tucker Carlson Has A Total Meltdown About Zelenskyy's Speech To Congress Josephine Harvey Thu, December 22, 2022 at 12:08 AM EST Fox News’ Tucker Carlson went on a bizarre tirade against Volodymyr Zelenskyy, complaining that the Ukrainian president was "dressed like the manager of a strip club” when he addressed Congress on Wednesday. In a historic in-person appeal to a rare joint session of Congress, Zelenskyy thanked the U.S. for helping his country fight back against the Russian invasion. As Ukraine enters a brutal winter, Zelenskyy, dressed in battle fatigues, highlighted the importance of U.S. aid to the country’s ongoing resistance. Carlson was concerned with the wartime leader’s choice of outfit. "As far as we know, no one’s ever addressed the United States Congress in a sweatshirt before, but they love him much more than they love you,” he told viewers. Throughout the war, Carlson has repeatedly parroted Russian propaganda and elevated conspiratorial claims about U.S. assistance to Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, he was outraged by Zelenskyy’s request for more money and weapons, and used the opportunity to attack him on multiple fronts. "The point was to fawn over the Ukrainian strip club manager and hand him billions more dollars from our own crumbling economy,” Carlson said. "It is hard, in fact it may be impossible, to imagine a more humiliating scenario for the greatest country on Earth.” Zelenskyy’s trip comes as Republicans prepare to take control of the House of Representatives, leaving the future of U.S. aid to Ukraine up in the air. Many GOP lawmakers recently supported a resolution sponsored by far-right Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) to audit American assistance to Ukraine amid a push of pro-Russia talking points from far-right personalities like Carlson. Though the measure did not pass, Greene said she would reintroduce it in the next Congress.
December 22, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Mlodj said: Seeing the Wagner Group fed into a meat grinder is one of the better things to come out of this offensive. That thing has spent more time pier side than at sea. Yeah I became good friends with one of the platoon commanders from that company and the entirety of the enemy was Wagner. Their tactics are basically artillery in the morning (not really aimed at anything in particular like a NATO army would do, basically just lobbing rounds in a general area) followed by a frontal assault across open terrain. They send a couple of guys out to start crawling towards the Ukrainians, and he was saying that they would just start picking them off once they got anywhere around 150/300m, and the guys who wouldn't get shot Fd off back to their lines. Two from his company were KIA from an S-300 conversion that hit their line, and one was KIA/BNR from direct fire when they were operating in front of their own lines. Also yeah the Kuznetsov is one big hunk of ish. On the online defense autist community, it's just made fun of for the exhaust plume alone. 1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said: If you had to ballpark casualties for both sides, what would it be? Does the over 100k for both sides + about 50k civilians sound right? Even if I knew the numbers (I don't), I wouldn't be able to speak to them. What I do know is that war is hell. The guys I've seen who I've known since before they went to the front look like they've aged ten years after they get back.
December 22, 20223 yr Author Sounds like it going well Founder of Wagner Group wants to send women to war against Ukraine: "There is resistance, but we will overcome" https://news.yahoo.com/founder-wagner-group-wants-send-151900525.html
December 22, 20223 yr But it worked in The Dirty Dozen Quote The Wagner Group, the infamous Russian private military company, is recruiting inmates from penal colonies, promising them amnesty after six months of fighting in the war, as well as money and a chance to get back to normal life afterwards. They recruit convicts by telling fairy tales about fighting mercenaries from the US and Poland and insisting that Ukraine no longer exists, when in fact they are sending the new recruits to a meat grinder where former convicts are being slaughtered en masse. Source: Ukrainska Pravda's interview with S., a 32-year-old Wagner militant who was taken captive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in November near the city of Bakhmut Note: S. is not a soldier and has never served in the army. He was recruited at the end of August by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner Group, in a Russian penitentiary institution where S. had so far served eight years of a sentence for murder. Wagner has recruited 1,300 convicts in total. They offer them a six-month contract with a salary of 600,000 roubles [approximately US$8,500], plus an amnesty after the war. S. agreed to these terms. In early September, a group of almost 200 people was flown to Rostov Oblast (Russia), where they signed contracts and completed a 10-day training course. They were taught how to conduct assault operations, to move through forests, and to hide and shoot. Then they were sent to the occupied territory of Luhansk Oblast. In early November, the occupiers had to attack a gas station behind the forest. In total, there were 400 people. Quote from the "Wagnerite": "There was a concrete road. We were told there was a forest behind it. Our ‘dozen’ moved out and crossed the road. When we approached the forest, they told us to spread out in a line. They said there was a gas station on the top of a hill, and that we needed to go there and capture it. We had RPGs, a machine gun and grenades; I had a rifle. We spread out in a line and started entering the forest. And that was it… Projectiles started flying at us: tanks, artillery [opened fire]. Some became Cargo 300 [a military code for the injured – ed.], some had their arms, legs or heads ripped off. Screams, noise… [The Wagnerite’s ‘dozen’ were killed; he waited for another one and came under fire with them too – ed.] I was hit in the neck and back. There were pieces of shrapnel, and I got a concussion. Four of us were seriously wounded, they were left lying there in the forest. One was killed instantly; another one walked with me, but his knee was wounded and he stopped because he couldn't go on. I went to get help alone and came across Ukrainian soldiers." Details: The occupier said that when he saw everything with his own eyes, his attitude towards the war changed: if he could go back, he would have stayed in prison. He thinks back to the Wagner militants who were killed and maimed and says that in that situation, they didn’t care about money or amnesty. said he has relatives in Russia, so he hopes to be included in some prisoner swap. But he does not know what to expect there, because he remembers the leadership's orders to blow yourself up with a grenade rather than surrender. The story of Yevgeny Nuzhin, the captive Wagner soldier who was killed by having his head smashed in with a sledgehammer should serve as a reminder of what could happen to those who surrender. Andrey Medvedev, Nuzhin’s former commander at the Wagner Group, told Russian news outlet The Insider that he was aware of ten similar "executions". According to Medvedev, Wagner has a special unit of the "security service" that deals with these murders. Background: According to Vazhnyie Istorii (Important Stories), which is keeping count of all recruits to the Wagner Group, at least 5,786 convicts may have been sent to fight in Ukraine as of 19 September. Ukraine’s Defence Intelligence told Ukrainska Pravda that the number of Wagner soldiers involved in the war against Ukraine is currently 25,000. Before they started recruiting convicts, it was approximately 5,000.
December 22, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Abracadabra said: NATO's Not-zzz literally force feeding Ukrainians into a meatgrinder. Disgusting! Whoever Putin has running his disinformation is pretty funny, I will give you that. Make up some more stuff now. Be sure to tie in the not zees and how Ukraine started this war by having Crimea inside its borders. Tool.
December 22, 20223 yr Putin has cold, hungry, angry, outgunned and outmanned Ukrainian soldiers doing his disinformation these days. That's how desperate pathetic and delusional morons like you are to cling on to the lies that have comforted you for ten months. Reality will not indulge your psychosis no matter how tightly you cling to illusions.
December 22, 20223 yr Right, and Zelensky was in Washington taking a victory lap and not begging for a brand new army. How many tanks has his masters promised the coke-head of Kyiv? How many fighter jets does Victoria Nuland's puppet expect to be delivered? One measly Patriot system, sometime down the road, is the sorry haul from Zelensky's swansong. Does Saudi Arabia have any missiles to spare? Maybe Joe can scrape some together from the already puny Asian theatre supply.
December 22, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Putin has cold, hungry, angry, outgunned and outmanned Ukrainian soldiers doing his disinformation these days. That's how desperate pathetic and delusional morons like you are to cling on to the lies that have comforted you for ten months. Reality will not indulge your psychosis no matter how tightly you cling to illusions. Putin has troops made up of conscripted protesters, etc. Ill-trained, ill-equipped and fighting for something they apparently don't believe in. Run along pravdachik
December 22, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Reality will not indulge your psychosis no matter how tightly you cling to illusions.
December 22, 20223 yr Sure, Russians aren't motivated to fight for Russians on the historic lands of Russia. Russians have defeated the greatest armies ever assembled in Europe- repeatedly. But, they apparently don't have the knowhow or willingness to defend themselves against an overrated NATO proxy. Laughable!
December 22, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Russians have defeated the greatest armies ever assembled in Europe- repeatedly.
December 22, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Sure, Russians aren't motivated to fight for Russians on the historic lands of Russia. Russians have defeated the greatest armies ever assembled in Europe- repeatedly. But, they apparently don't have the knowhow or willingness to defend themselves against an overrated NATO proxy. Laughable! Oh the HISTORIC lands. F off. Historically, where ever you live belonged to somebody else. Grow up.
December 22, 20223 yr Yeah, like remember the time the Russian beat the greatest army of *checks notes* a bunch of caribou hunters in Finland?
December 22, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah, like remember the time the Russian beat the greatest army of *checks notes* a bunch of caribou hunters in Finland? they can control the weather, how else do you think they defeated the natzees ?
December 22, 20223 yr 52 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Sure, Russians aren't motivated to fight for Russians on the historic lands of Russia. Russians have defeated the greatest armies ever assembled in Europe- repeatedly. But, they apparently don't have the knowhow or willingness to defend themselves against an overrated NATO proxy. Laughable!
December 22, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Oh the HISTORIC lands. F off. Historically, where ever you live belonged to somebody else. Grow up. Even if this is true, that doesn't mean the Russians don't believe in the SMO. The mobilization was a success according even to Zaluzhnyi. There's at least 150,000 men who've been at training grounds since October. Another 150,000 are in the combat zones.
December 22, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Another 150,000 are in the combat zones, dead. FYP
December 22, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, Bill said: 70% losses in Bakhmut? I'm assuming losses refer to KIA? I literally trained a whole light infantry company that went to Bakhmut and their "losses" were *Checks notes* 2% Their overall casualty rate was better than my grandfathers company when he served under Patton. 43 minutes ago, Bill said: Yeah, like remember the time the Russian beat the greatest army of *checks notes* a bunch of caribou hunters in Finland?
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