February 22, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, Abracadabra said: I wonder if this has anything to do with discount Russian natural gas and oil? If you think the Chinese are doing anything out of their sincere affection for Russia, you are sorely mistaken.
February 22, 20232 yr I think China knows it has Russia over a barrel right now and can dictate terms. That's it.
February 22, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: I think China knows it has Russia over a barrel right now and can dictate terms. That's it. We may not be far off from Liechtenstein having Russia over a barrel
February 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, BBE said: I wonder if this has anything to do with discount Russian natural gas and oil? If you think the Chinese are doing anything out of their sincere affection for Russia, you are sorely mistaken. I think it has much more to do with the U.S. imperialist bullying of nations across the world. Consider this absolutely blistering critique from the Chinese Foreign Ministry: US Hegemony and Its Perils Quote Introduction Since becoming the world's most powerful country after the two world wars and the Cold War, the United States has acted more boldly to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries, pursue, maintain and abuse hegemony, advance subversion and infiltration, and willfully wage wars, bringing harm to the international community. The United States has developed a hegemonic playbook to stage "color revolutions," instigate regional disputes, and even directly launch wars under the guise of promoting democracy, freedom and human rights. Clinging to the Cold War mentality, the United States has ramped up bloc politics and stoked conflict and confrontation. It has overstretched the concept of national security, abused export controls and forced unilateral sanctions upon others. It has taken a selective approach to international law and rules, utilizing or discarding them as it sees fit, and has sought to impose rules that serve its own interests in the name of upholding a "rules-based international order." This report, by presenting the relevant facts, seeks to expose the U.S. abuse of hegemony in the political, military, economic, financial, technological and cultural fields, and to draw greater international attention to the perils of the U.S. practices to world peace and stability and the well-being of all peoples. Quote Conclusion While a just cause wins its champion wide support, an unjust one condemns its pursuer to be an outcast. The hegemonic, domineering, and bullying practices of using strength to intimidate the weak, taking from others by force and subterfuge, and playing zero-sum games are exerting grave harm. The historical trends of peace, development, cooperation, and mutual benefit are unstoppable. The United States has been overriding truth with its power and trampling justice to serve self-interest. These unilateral, egoistic and regressive hegemonic practices have drawn growing, intense criticism and opposition from the international community. Countries need to respect each other and treat each other as equals. Big countries should behave in a manner befitting their status and take the lead in pursuing a new model of state-to-state relations featuring dialogue and partnership, not confrontation or alliance. China opposes all forms of hegemonism and power politics, and rejects interference in other countries' internal affairs. The United States must conduct serious soul-searching. It must critically examine what it has done, let go of its arrogance and prejudice, and quit its hegemonic, domineering and bullying practices. A global coalition is gathering to confront U.S. and Western neo-colonial belligerence and coercion.
February 22, 20232 yr Just now, Abracadabra said: I think it has much more to do with the U.S. imperialist bullying of nations across the world. Consider this absolutely blistering critique from the Chinese Foreign Ministry: US Hegemony and Its Perils A global coalition is gathering to confront U.S. and Western neo-colonial belligerence and coercion. Stay delusional.
February 22, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: I think it has much more to do with the U.S. imperialist bullying of nations across the world. Consider this absolutely blistering critique from the Chinese Foreign Ministry: US Hegemony and Its Perils A global coalition is gathering to confront U.S. and Western neo-colonial belligerence and coercion. Let's pick apart China's finger-pointing exercise you are so in love with. It is basically the epitome of what-aboutism given China's hegemonic actions in Africa and their absolute disregard for intellectual property rights. We are not enacting economic hegemony in Africa, we are just the largest port operator in Africa because we are helping our African comrades. And we will not even get into Chinese monetary policy. Or their ongoing genocides of the Ugyurs and their actions in Tibet. Or the casualties of Mao's revolution. Your beloved motherland is getting played by the Chinese, plain and simple.
February 22, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, BBE said: Let's pick apart China's finger-pointing exercise you are so in love with. It is basically the epitome of what-aboutism given China's hegemonic actions in Africa and their absolute disregard for intellectual property rights. We are not enacting economic hegemony in Africa, we are just the largest port operator in Africa because we are helping our African comrades. And we will not even get into Chinese monetary policy. Or their ongoing genocides of the Ugyurs and their actions in Tibet. Or the casualties of Mao's revolution. Your beloved motherland is getting played by the Chinese, plain and simple. Right, because your opinion about what motivates the Chinese is much more concrete than their own official statements.
February 22, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Abracadabra said: Right, because your opinion about what motivates the Chinese is much more concrete than their own official statements. Their own official propaganda? Yes. When compared to their actions? Absolutely!
February 22, 20232 yr Russia & China make "official statements": "these are statement of fact!" US, NATO, or any Western leader makes "official statement": "propaganda!"
February 22, 20232 yr Quote Former Russian President and Deputy Chair of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev said Russia will "disappear" if it loses the war in Ukraine. "If Russia stops the special military operation without achieving victory, Russia will disappear, it will be torn to pieces,” Medvedev said in a Telegram post on Wednesday
February 22, 20232 yr 51 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: Right, because your opinion about what motivates the Chinese is much more concrete than their own official statements.
February 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Talkingbirds said: I have so many questions... 1. How did the kid at the beginning get such a huge head? He looks like a dancing candy apple/Elaine Benes. 2. What the hell is this guy singing about? 3. Where do they get all these Korean girls? How can I meet them? 4. Why is he on the loo?
February 22, 20232 yr We were promised ‘economic shock and awe’ against Russia Quote It has become clear that he or whoever planned the sanctions strategy didn’t really understand the Russian economy very well, especially its place in the global system. Instead, U.S. strategy appears to have proceeded on the assumption that Russia, in the words of the late John McCain, was merely "a gas station masquerading as a country” as opposed to an essential source for everything from oil to grain to metals such as nickel, well able to feed itself and maintain industrial output at a high level. You knew this months ago. Because?
February 22, 20232 yr Yea, Russia can feed itself and maintain industrial output at a high level ...except when it comes to equipping their conscripts with basic essentials like bullets and bandages. In that case, they're left to ask family and friends for tampons. But besides that though, what an embarrassment of riches!
February 22, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yea, Russia can feed itself and maintain industrial output at a high level ...except when it comes to equipping their conscripts with basic essentials like bullets and bandages. In that case, they're left to ask family and friends for tampons. But besides that though, what an embarrassment of riches! He is quoting from the publication of a think-tank that has been "dovish" regarding the invasion of Ukraine from the beginning and is historically opposed to intervention and sanctions. Ironically this think tank is a Soros-Koch joint venture. Of course an article claiming ineffectual sanctions would be published there.
February 22, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Yea, Russia can feed itself and maintain industrial output at a high level ...except when it comes to equipping their conscripts with basic essentials like bullets and bandages. In that case, they're left to ask family and friends for tampons. But besides that though, what an embarrassment of riches! "One trope is dispelled but we still have this other..."
February 22, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: "One trope is dispelled but we still have this other..."
February 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Abracadabra said: One trope is dispelled but we still have this other..." Is Hocus-pocus your corn hole partner ? Do you store his "wand” ?
February 23, 20232 yr Russia and China are basically frenemies. They have some competing interests but also some common interests. But at the same time, China has a similar situation with the US, though with higher stakes. China has to walk a fine line of not pissing off the US too much because of the economic implications while still having impending geopolitical confrontations on the horizon with the US. China will probably play the middle as long as they think they can, but ultimately they will want Russia to divert US attention and resources from them. Russia similarly will want China to divert US attention from them. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. We are seeing Germany and Japan rearm for the first time since WW2. Europe got caught a bit with their pants down, but they’re all modernizing their military now. Along with Japan, Australia seems to be modernizing their military as well. I do think we see a continuing bifurcation of the world and a sort of Cold War 2.
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