February 24, 20223 yr Just now, Toastrel said: No, it is quite deliberate. You just misunderstand why, because you probably mistakenly consider Trump and the GOP now cheering Putin, as tough on Russia. Trump was so soft on Russia that they waited for him to leave office before doing this. Galaxy brain takes in here.
February 24, 20223 yr Unreal. Trump gave an interview on Fox before Biden even addressed the nation. Has there ever been a more pathetic leader of a world power? This guy is an embarrassment.
February 24, 20223 yr 48 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: American and European governments have been supplying them with supplies and weapons in order to defend themselves for the past decade knowing this situation was eventually going to come to a head. Trump secretly trying to end that assistance and torpedoing the pro-Western government was one of the reasons why he was impeached. What else do you want? I know it sucks to watch Russia roll over a sovereign nation but there's a reason why he picked Ukraine and not a NATO member country. Sorry but this is nonsense, Trump was just a tower owning TV host when Georgia started the process to join NATO in 2008 and Russia did what it's doing to Ukraine now by recognising the majority ethnic Russian parts of Georgia as independent states, the only serious NATO politician to turn up was Condi Rice who flew in a couple of months later to tell Georgia to sign the ceasefire and stop defending it's own territory. The fact is NATO has been playing chicken with Putin by expanding eastwards into former Warsaw Pact and ex Soviet states for years and then not following through when Russia says enough, this time Biden and all the EU leaders didn't even pretend they were going to risk their soldiers if Putin invaded Ukraine and here we are. What Putin has done is reprehensible a disgrace, and I feel sorry for Ukraine and it's people, but the price of lasting peace with Russia was leaving a neutral zone of non NATO countries between it and Europe proper, instead NATO Fed around and now Ukraine, like Georgia, is about to find out.
February 24, 20223 yr Author 1 minute ago, Kz! said: Unreal. Trump gave an interview on Fox before Biden even addressed the nation. Has there ever been a more pathetic leader of a world power? This guy is an embarrassment. His interview was pathetic though
February 24, 20223 yr Just now, Bacarty2 said: You're right. Putin got away with everything from Trump so he waited 4 1/2 years to finish invading another country The mental jumping-jacks these cultists have to do to convince themselves that it's Trump's fault is so unbelievably entertaining to watch. I'm in this thread like:
February 24, 20223 yr 9 hours ago, lynched1 said: Could have just taken NATO entry of the Ukraine off the table but now we're here. So now our response is sanctions. Not just sanctions "severe" sanctions. What's our response to China potentially supplying Russia with all it needs to withstand the sanctions? Putin also wanted us to kick out a half dozen other NATO countries. Your stupidity is boundless. Congrats.
February 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Kz! said: Has there ever been a more pathetic leader of a world power? Yea the one that praised Putin as genius
February 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, 20dawk4life said: Yea the one that praised Putin as genius IDK, dude, he at least was awake last night when this was going on. Dementia Joe was sound asleep while his speechwriters were up hoping he doesn't crap himself on live TV when they roll him out of bed to deliver what they wrote.
February 24, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, Jeep_man said: As bad as what is happening in Ukraine, the real issue here is China. This will give all the incentive for China to take Taiwan as US has now shown they are very hesitant in taking on a country with nuclear warheads. I think there is backroom deal between Russia and China to support each other in these landgrabs.
February 24, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: You're right. Putin got away with everything from Trump so he waited 4 1/2 years to finish invading another country Putin had his knob slobbered by Trump. Trump is still slobbering on it. But please, pretend otherwise. Are you going to actively support the invasion too?
February 24, 20223 yr Just now, Kz! said: IDK, dude, he at least was awake last night when this was going on. Dementia Joe was sound asleep while his speechwriters were up hoping he doesn't crap himself on live TV when they roll him out of bed to deliver what he wrote. Yea because the president always comes right out to address the country
February 24, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: For all the people who claim to not be Biden supporters that just wanted anyone but Trump, this is what they choose as the lesser evil. War. Idiots.
February 24, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said: You do realize Putin looks like a genius right now right? Get the natural resources flowing. make a ton of money and go make moves knowing your competitor aint gonna do ISH. Yea pure genius to become alienated by the entire world.
February 24, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: That's simply false. There's literally nothing Trump would do differently, other than make stupid statements like "why SHOULDN'T Putin invade Ukraine??" and claim no responsibility to do anything about it.
February 24, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said: You do realize Putin looks like a genius right now right? Get the natural resources flowing. make a ton of money and go make moves knowing your competitor aint gonna do ISH. Yeah, he looks like a genius only to Trumplicans, while the rest of us believe he looks like an Evil Dictator bent on destruction.
February 24, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, 20dawk4life said: Yea because the president always comes right out to address the country Uhh, when there's a major historical global event underway, yes, generally the president addresses it before bedtime. I understand you're in your feelings about orange man right now, but that doesn't mean you have to simp for slurry joe, damn.
February 24, 20223 yr 18 minutes ago, Kz! said: Tulsi's not exactly wrong here. Every country determines its own security. She is a dope and a communist
February 24, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said: Everything you want to say to rationalize your Biden vote, and try to put down "trumpbots" is just out of guilt. Sorry you did that to yourselves. Hope the stupid posts help you feel better. If your stupid arse party were serious about this, you'd nominate a hardliner like Cheney in 2024... but you won't, you'll go with Trump again.
February 24, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: I never realized how many pro-Russian folks we had on this website You just have to watch about 5 minutes of the right wing media they consume to figure out why.
February 24, 20223 yr It's reassuring to see Bacarty's political takes are as batshit stupid as his football takes. Really impressive commitment to being wrong.
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