June 7, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Wow you really are a moron. You…you just figured that out now?
June 7, 20232 yr Quote Countdown to panic and chaos as Russians try to flee back to Russia from occupied Crimea. Bank ATMs now have a withdrawal limit of 300 rubles, equivalent to $3.69. Well, well, well. Tell us more about the greatness of Russia.
June 7, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Very important on #Kakhovka. The chronology of the terrorist attack by Russian terrorists. Or how Russians screwed in their excuses. At two o'clock in the morning, the Russians blow up the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, but they don't see how much. It's not very visible, but it can still hit. 1. The Russians still think that they have neatly blown up a small part of the HPP and are flooding our military on the islands. At 6:06 a.m., the head of Nova Kakhovka, Leontyev, said that the explosion of the GES was nonsense. Like, we don't know why the water rose there. Here is the link to Ria Novosti's http://archive.is/aTyK8 2. Russian OSINT intelligence community Rybar picks up the thesis and says a small area was blown up at 6:51 a.m. Link http://archive.ph/flapa 3. At 6:51 in Nova Kakhovka, they see that the dam is a complete ass, and the mom's stratagems start to realize that they are in trouble. The mayor of Nova Kakhovka abruptly changes his rhetoric and says there was no explosion, it was a shelling by the Ukrainian army. Link http://archive.ph/LFFKF 4. But the propagandists, who do not know what the F has happened, continue to work according to the methodology and continue to throw into the information space that the dam was previously shelled, and then it got a little tired and broke a little. Here is a post by Podolyaki's propagandist http://archive.ph/DgQIV. And the propaganda channel War on Fakes http://archive.ph/GRN55 5. Other telegram channels that cooperate with the military are happily hopping on one leg, cheering, because of the undermining of the Kakhovka dam, the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the islands are flooded, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to evacuate and escape, and then they publish joyful reports of how they are hitting the positions of our guys on the islands. 08:25 Link http://archive.ph/c0iHL 6. Here, the Russians are slowly realizing that they have created a large-scale man-made environmental disaster, almost as large as Chernobyl. And they are starting to reverse. Russian influence on the information space is changing its tone dramatically. They instantly change their tune and start accusing the Ukrainian side of provocations. Like it's a Bankova operation A reference to the same "war on fakes" that said the dam had somehow collapsed on its own.... http://archive.ph/x8uwT But even in their excuses, the racists still screwed up. Either the dam was blown up, or Olha was shelled with MLRS.... http://archive.ph/uF0Xm Although any sapper will give a hundred percent guarantee that it is impossible to make such destruction from the outside, the damage here was done by planting explosives And then they are already beginning to adhere to this thesis, because what they have done is a huge international tragedy, especially in the environmental sense. Where is the water going? Kherson? or Crimea? Why are The Russians fleeing back to Russia? Because of the water?
June 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, jsdarkstar said: Where is the water going? Kherson? or Crimea? Why are The Russians fleeing back to Russia? Because of the water? They're fleeing because they're afraid Ukraine is going to invade Crimea. The dam will have an impact on the water supply but not for a while, and the reservoir only dropped a few meters from what I understand. The canal south still has water. Mostly panic, but not unwarranted. Crimea will be cut off after this offensive IMHO. I don't think Ukraine will manage to take Crimea, but they'll cut the land bridge off partially or completely.
June 7, 20232 yr Journalists Are Asking Ukrainian Soldiers To Hide Their NSDAP Patches, NYT Admits Quote The New York Times has been forced to very, very belatedly deal with something which had long been obvious and known to many independent analysts and media outlets, but which has been carefully shielded from the mainstream masses in the West for obvious reasons. The surprising Monday Times headline said that "NSDAP Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History." This acknowledgement comes after literally years of primarily indy journalists and geopolitical commentators pointing out that yes indeed... Ukraine's military and paramilitary groups, especially those operating in the east since at least 2014, have a serious NSDAP ideology problem. This has been exhaustively documented, again, going back years. But the report, which merely tries to downplay it as a "thorny issue" of Ukraine's "unique" "History" - suggests that the real problem for Western PR is fundamentally that it's being displayed so openly. Ukrainian troops are being asked to cover those NSDAP symbols please!--as Matt Taibbi sarcastically quipped in commenting on the report. NBC News report in 2014: "Germans were confronted with images of their country’s dark past on Monday night, when German public broadcaster ZDF showed video of Ukrainian soldiers with NSDAP symbols on their helmets in its evening newscast." The authors of the NYT report begin by expressing frustration over the optics of NSDAP symbols being displayed so proudly on many Ukrainian soldiers' uniforms. Suggesting that many journalistic photographs which have in some cases been featured in newspapers and media outlets worldwide (typically coupled with generally positive articles on Ukraine's military) are merely 'unfortunate' or misleading, the NYT report says, "In each photograph, Ukrainians in uniform wore patches featuring symbols that were made notorious by NSDAP Germany and have since become part of the iconography of far-right hate groups." The report admits this has led to controversy wherein news rooms actually must delete some photos of Ukrainian soldiers and militants. "The photographs, and their deletions, highlight the Ukrainian military’s complicated relationship with NSDAP imagery, a relationship forged under both Soviet and German occupation during World War II," continues the report. So it's merely "thorny" and "complicated" we are told. Below is a small sampling of the kinds of patches that appear on Ukrainian military uniforms with "some regularity" - in the words of The New York Times: NATO itself has in the recent past been forced to delete images on its official social media accounts due to NSDAP imagery being present among Ukrainian troops during photo shoots. The following line from the report says everything you need to know about the so-called "paper of record" and its one-sided and ultra-simplistic coverage of what many are finally waking up to realize is a war with a deeply complex reality (to say the least), and far from the MSM's goodies vs. baddies Hollywoodesque narrative of Putler vs. the free world which is typical of networks from CNN to Fox to NBC... From the NY Times: "In November, during a meeting with Times reporters near the front line, a Ukrainian press officer wore a Totenkopf variation made by a company called R3ICH (pronounced "Reich”). He said he did not believe the patch was affiliated with the NSDAPs. A second press officer present said other journalists had asked soldiers to remove the patch before taking photographs." Oops! And now we might expect some significant efforts at damage control, or even perhaps we're witnessing the beginnings of evolving definitions and the moving of goalposts. More from NY Times [emphasis ZH]: But some members of these groups have been fighting Russia since the Kremlin illegally annexed part of the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014 and are now part of the broader military structure. Some are regarded as national heroes, even as the far-right remains marginalized politically. The iconography of these groups, including a skull-and-crossbones patch worn by concentration camp guards and a symbol known as the Black Sun, now appears with some regularity on the uniforms of soldiers fighting on the front line, including soldiers who say the imagery symbolizes Ukrainian sovereignty and pride, not Nazism. Some are writing more appropriate and apt headlines for the NYT story... Only very recently Ukraine's Defense Ministry and even President Zelensky's office was caught in the act: In April, Ukraine’s Defense Ministry posted a photograph on its Twitter account of a soldier wearing a patch featuring a skull and crossbones known as the Totenkopf, or Death’s Head. The specific symbol in the picture was made notorious by a NSDAP unit that committed war crimes and guarded concentration camps during World War II. The patch in the photograph sets the Totenkopf atop a Ukrainian flag with a small No. 6 below. That patch is the official merchandise of Death in June, a British neo-folk band that the Southern Poverty Law Center has said produces "hate speech” that "exploits themes and images of fascism and Nazism.” To be expected, the Times still tries to run cover while desperately seeking to 'reassure' its audience by writing that "In the short term, that threatens to reinforce Putin’s propaganda and giving fuel to his false claims that Ukraine must be 'de-Nazified' — a position that ignores the fact that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is Jewish." New levels of cope indeed... But then still, the NYT concedes awkwardly, "More broadly, Ukraine’s ambivalence about these symbols, and sometimes even its acceptance of them, risks giving new, mainstream life to icons that the West has spent more than a half-century trying to eliminate." It's complicated?
June 7, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Abracadabra said: Journalists Are Asking Ukrainian Soldiers To Hide Their NSDAP Patches, NYT Admits It's complicated? No. Slurping your news from a toilet, the way you do, is disgusting, but not complicated
June 7, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Toastrel said: No. Slurping your news from a toilet, the way you do, is disgusting, but not complicated hey listen, if tyler durden wrote it on zerohedge, you take it as muthaFin' gospel !!!!
June 7, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said: hey listen, if tyler durden wrote it on zerohedge, you take it as muthaFin' gospel !!!! I reserve my opinion to see where they stand on the globetard issue.
June 7, 20232 yr there is a propaganda model called "the firehose of falsehood" literally called the Russian model. they are the progenitors of Steve Bannon's "flood the zone with sh**" approach to politics that works so well with the useful idiots on the right. the US has mislead, to be sure. but if we're going to start stacking up lies and misdeeds Russia and the Soviet Union are WAY out ahead.
June 8, 20232 yr 13 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: The Russian leadership are terrorist thugs. Thankfully, their own people will probably take care of them for us. I bet the ratio of sick to death of Putin Russians outnumber the Abras 100 to 1
June 8, 20232 yr Rescuers race to save pets in submerged Ukraine city after dam collapse https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rescuers-race-to-save-pets-in-submerged-ukraine-city-after-dam-collapse/ar-AA1chjRl Meanwhile the Ukrainians are racing to save dogs from drowning.
June 8, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, Toastrel said: Rescuers race to save pets in submerged Ukraine city after dam collapse https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/rescuers-race-to-save-pets-in-submerged-ukraine-city-after-dam-collapse/ar-AA1chjRl Meanwhile the Ukrainians are racing to save dogs from drowning. Time to drop a nuke on moscow. I'm kinda kidding, but also kinda not.
June 8, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Time to drop a nuke on moscow. I'm kinda kidding, but also kinda not. No, but I do think it’s time we put in a no-fly zone
June 8, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, barho said: No, but I do think it’s time we put in a no-fly zone This is a terrible idea.
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