July 25, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, Procus said: Well, I think we can safely say it certainly does not include the current occupant of the WH total shocker. now, can you answer the question ?
July 25, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Procus said: Russia's always been a de facto third world nation. That's nothing new. But they can also inflict a lot of damage. We need real leadership in this country that can cut a backroom deal, and bring this conflict to a close. A settlement is better than a pyrrich victory. The fact that you think you can cut a back room deal and have that lead to peace shows how stunningly you lack any knowledge of how Russian geopolitics work.
July 25, 20232 yr 37 minutes ago, Bill said: The fact that you think you can cut a back room deal and have that lead to peace shows how stunningly you lack any knowledge of how Russian geopolitics work. not when the back door deal involves giving russia everything they want, which is what procus' daddy would do.
July 25, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, Bill said: The fact that you think you can cut a back room deal and have that lead to peace shows how stunningly you lack any knowledge of how Russian geopolitics work. Yah, because there was on ongoing hot war in Ukraine before Biden got in.
July 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Biden has played it very well. If anything he's just a bit too hesitant to expand the arsenal. If you think Ukraine should be pressured into giving up valuable land to an unprovoked invasion by an imperial neighbor, and that doing so wouldn't simply embolden Putin to keep grabbing more land, you're as big a fool as Chamberlain was. NATO and the West are stronger for Biden's moves, where "other" presidents would have seen NATO weakened and disbanded. TDS flavored straw man. Biden has allowed yet another perma war to fester and has pissed away countless US taxpayer dollars to use Ukraine ad a proxy. Has he even picked up the phone to talk to Putin? His handlers probably cant even trust him with that, hed probably let Hunter do the talking and thinking for him. He is a weak leader. Just because Russia has proven themselves to be a 2nd world nation doesn't mean President Do Nothing has done anything.
July 25, 20232 yr On 6/2/2023 at 9:11 AM, Shepard Wong said: Watching the Maga hardcore periodically try to find ways to indirectly support Putin is an interesting subplot of this thread. Don't get me wrong. I read it to enjoy checking in on Russia's daily failures but their weak efforts to be on the wrong side of this are more entertaining than Abra's nonsense.
July 25, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Procus said: Yah, because there was on ongoing hot war in Ukraine before Biden got in. And now he's back to blaming Biden for the invasion
July 25, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: TDS flavored straw man. Biden has allowed yet another perma war to fester and has pissed away countless US taxpayer dollars to use Ukraine ad a proxy. Has he even picked up the phone to talk to Putin? His handlers probably cant even trust him with that, hed probably let Hunter do the talking and thinking for him. He is a weak leader. Just because Russia has proven themselves to be a 2nd world nation doesn't mean President Do Nothing has done anything. And another trumpbot coping and seething that Biden has threaded the needle on this and crippled one of our largest enemies by supporting Ukraine when Trump would've hung them out to dry. Hate to see it.
July 25, 20232 yr 50 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: TDS flavored straw man. Biden has allowed yet another perma war to fester and has pissed away countless US taxpayer dollars to use Ukraine ad a proxy. Has he even picked up the phone to talk to Putin? His handlers probably cant even trust him with that, hed probably let Hunter do the talking and thinking for him. He is a weak leader. Just because Russia has proven themselves to be a 2nd world nation doesn't mean President Do Nothing has done anything. Yeah, you prefer a strong leader who knows how to kneel and suck. We don't call that strong. We call that rolling over. Most of the GOP seems intent on being Neville Chamberlain, all of the sudden, clinging to appeasement like it was a life vest. Odd that all it ever takes for a 'conservative' like you to oppose ANY military spending, is to have a Democratic president.
July 25, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Bill said: The fact that you think you can cut a back room deal and have that lead to peace shows how stunningly you lack any knowledge of how Russian geopolitics work. A "backroom deal" that would allow Putin to give his warmonger right wing a claim of "victory," give his people an explanation for the deaths and maiming of hundreds of thousands of their men, and the oligarch class an justification for their loss of wealth. All without giving Russia any NEW territory because NATO knows if Russia gets anything, they'll just do it again in 5-10 years. Might as well ask for a effing time machine. It's as realistic as this backroom deal.
July 25, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said: total shocker. now, can you answer the question ? He obviously doesn't ever, why would this be different?
July 25, 20232 yr The entire west has run out of 155mm shells but it's Russia that's crippled. In a land war where 60,000 shells are fired every day for over a year, the U.S. produces 5,000 a month- a month! The delusion is reaching epic proportions. I don't know if you morons noticed but Russia is advancing in the north, the Ukraine military is surrendering in large numbers and the narrative is cracking. Now back to arguing about which wing of the uniparty gets to grovel at Putin's feet.
July 26, 20232 yr 46 minutes ago, Abracadabra said: The delusion is reaching epic proportions. It sure is
July 26, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Procus said: Yah, because there was on ongoing hot war in Ukraine before Biden got in. Yah, there actually was. Russia initially invaded in 2014 and active conflict has been taking place since then.
July 26, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Mike31mt said: TDS flavored straw man. Biden has allowed yet another perma war to fester and has pissed away countless US taxpayer dollars to use Ukraine ad a proxy. Has he even picked up the phone to talk to Putin? His handlers probably cant even trust him with that, hed probably let Hunter do the talking and thinking for him. He is a weak leader. Just because Russia has proven themselves to be a 2nd world nation doesn't mean President Do Nothing has done anything. Yeah, much rather have president coward bone spurts who wants to do the metaphorical equivalent of bending over and pulling his pants down for his daddy, Putin. But he'd say some tough words to his idiot base and they'd lap it up and say he was a strong leader.
July 26, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Toastrel said: Yeah, you prefer a strong leader who knows how to kneel and suck. We don't call that strong. We call that rolling over. Most of the GOP seems intent on being Neville Chamberlain, all of the sudden, clinging to appeasement like it was a life vest. Odd that all it ever takes for a 'conservative' like you to oppose ANY military spending, is to have a Democratic president. Can you form a sentence without a gross metaphor? 3 hours ago, Bill said: ^ Your average MAGAt preparing to negotiate. Is that why Biden surrendered an entire country to terrorists?
July 26, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, kiwieagle said: Yeah, much rather have president coward bone spurts who wants to do the metaphorical equivalent of bending over and pulling his pants down for his daddy, Putin. But he'd say some tough words to his idiot base and they'd lap it up and say he was a strong leader. More ghey references. 100% a pattern
July 26, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: And another trumpbot coping and seething that Biden has threaded the needle on this and crippled one of our largest enemies by supporting Ukraine when Trump would've hung them out to dry. Hate to see it. Threaded the needle Libertarians love those proxy wars
July 26, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Can you form a sentence without a gross metaphor? Is that why Biden surrendered an entire country to terrorists? You mean the Trump Afghanistan plan?
July 26, 20232 yr 8 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Threaded the needle Libertarians love those proxy wars As opposed to rolling over and letting your hero's BFF continue his genocide all across Ukraine. Sorry, Mikhail, but not today.
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