September 21, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, Mlodj said: Probably not autopilot per se, but more likely it went into an Auto GCAS flyup at some time after the pilot ejected. That would keep it circling in a largely stationary orbit till it ran out of fuel. Two other things to keep in mind while reading some of the more ignorant media articles, the F-35B (and only the B model) does have a mode which can eject the pilot without his consent, I have absolutely no idea if that happened here, but all things are considered possible till the Accident Investigation Board says otherwise. The other is that the act of ejecting often "wipes" all the classified information from a military aircraft by design. That could include the transponder, leaving an aircraft that is designed to be hard to track with radar... wait for it... hard to track with radar. Mandatory disclaimer: I have not seen anything about the accident other than news reports, much of which have been hilariously misinformed. Eject the pilot without his consent? I’m not sure our goal should be to make it easier for Skynet. WTF.
September 21, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, vikas83 said: Eject the pilot without his consent? I’m not sure our goal should be to make it easier for Skynet. WTF. It's a feature that has never been used outside of the vertical landing world to my knowledge. The Soviets had the same feature on their Yak-38 way back when. I'm not sure what the parameters were for it to initiate an ejection, IIRC it was tied to sink rates. When the F-35B hovers it is supported by the main engine, which swivels the nozzle 90 degrees to point at the ground, and the lift fan directly behind the cockpit which always points down. As I understand it, the F-35 auto ejection system is there in case of loss of thrust from the lift fan. That would leave the main engine (at the extreme aft end of the jet) as the only means of thrust, and this would flip the F-35 onto its back too quickly for the pilot to react to it. LINK It does take a leap of faith to deal with that, but modern aircraft are largely built that way. With modern fly by wire systems and digital engine controls the pilot "votes" what he wants the aircraft to do with the stick, rudder pedals, and throttles and the jet decides which flight controls to move and what thrust to give him to get as close as possible to what he just asked for.
September 21, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Bill said: One of the more humorous conspiracies that I saw was that China hacked it and remotely flew it to Cuba. Oh... that was touched upon here
September 21, 20232 yr womp womp. Poland already sent everything it can to Ukraine. the statement made by Poland was merely a statement of fact: they're no longer able to send munitions because they've sent everything, and are focused on replenishing their military stocks with more modern NATO wares. it's all just negotiations @Abracadabra sorry, not sorry, loser.
September 21, 20232 yr So the four Russian officers killed by Azerbaijani forces yesterday after their car was shot included one Captain, one Lt. Colonel, and two Colonels. Reactions from Russians are obviously furious, recognising that nothing is being done about this by the Russian leadership. Russians exhibiting the usual slave-like behaviour despite being actually mad. The Armenia-Azerbaijan row is an interesting side-show. Despite Azerbaijan being backed by Turkey, ostensibly an ally, and Armenia being backed by Russia, Azerbaijan is really the bad actor there. So while Ukraine should welcome anything that stretches Russia further, seeing Azerbaijan succeed against Armenia would be a bad thing.
September 21, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, VanHammersly said: And there's one of the appeasers. We have a long standing tradition of stopping fascism from marching across Europe. Don't like it? Move to Russia, bish. Ok now do Africa, the Middle East, etc. Does this same mandate extend to every corner of the earth?
September 21, 20232 yr https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-21/poland-says-it-s-still-supplying-ukraine-with-weapons Poland Seeks to Mend Ukraine Rift With Arms Supplies Warsaw will continue to send weapons under existing contracts womp womp.
September 21, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Ukraine isn't a UN member?? what? My mistake, confused with NATO But the point still remains, all those central African countries are UN members. Do they not deserve protection? Bidens speech was eloquent warmongering neocon stuff.
September 21, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: He's from WV where they don't teach this stuff, so I'm assuming he meant NATO member, but it's a stupid argument anyway. Taiwan isn't a UN member and we'd still provide aid if they were invaded in a similar fashion. Its not a stupid argument at all, but Im glad this is bringing out the saber rattling warmonger in all of our reformed libertarian posters.
September 21, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Ok now do Africa, the Middle East, etc. Does this same mandate extend to every corner of the earth? What part of Quote We have a long standing tradition of stopping fascism from marching across Europe. do you not understand? You're either sheeting out Putin talking points because you full-on support a fascist terrorist state or because you're just in the Neville Chamberlain camp. Quit being such a bish and start supporting the free world.
September 21, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Its not a stupid argument at all, but Im glad this is bringing out the saber rattling warmonger in all of our reformed libertarian posters. So we should sit by and do nothing if China invaded Taiwan? Is that what you're implying?
September 21, 20232 yr Russia is barely training its troops, probably rendering them incapable of going on the offensive, UK intel says https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-barely-training-its-troops-probably-rendering-them-incapable-of-going-on-the-offensive-uk-intel-says/ar-AA1h3ct2
September 21, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, VanHammersly said: What part of do you not understand? You're either sheeting out Putin talking points because you full-on support a fascist terrorist state or because you're just in the Neville Chamberlain camp. Quit being such a bish and start supporting the free world. Oh so it's cool to ignore Africa now because we've always done that, kind of (Somalia, Libya, etc. dont count now) We also have a long-standing tradition of intervening all over the Middle East, so I guess that doesnt apply either because reasons. Bidens policy is arbitrary warmongering, its ok to admit it
September 21, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: So we should sit by and do nothing if China invaded Taiwan? Is that what you're implying? Certainly no military intervention, no. Why would we do that? Are you really this juvenile to think the US is capable or willing to police the entire planet?
September 21, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Certainly no military intervention, no. Why would we do that? Are you really this juvenile to think the US is capable or willing to police the entire planet? So provide no aid whatsoever and let China steam roll one of the most globally important manufacturing hubs of the tech industry?
September 21, 20232 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: So provide no aid whatsoever and let China steam roll one of the most globally important manufacturing hubs of the tech industry? What should we do, send our navy? Who else deserves this level of US protection? Can you provide a list. I guess we'll start with all 193 UN members? Add Taiwan. Anyone else or just those 194?
September 21, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Oh so it's cool to ignore Africa now because we've always done that, kind of (Somalia, Libya, etc. dont count now) We also have a long-standing tradition of intervening all over the Middle East, so I guess that doesnt apply either because reasons. Bidens policy is arbitrary warmongering, its ok to admit it Literally every President's policy since WWII has been "arbitrary warmongering" with the notable exception Jimmy Carter. Sorry we can't intervene as much as you'd like, Mike. In the meantime, support the free world or GTFO of America.
September 21, 20232 yr link Quote Russia's S-400 Air Defense Systems Are Being Cut to Shreds Ukraine is cutting away at Russia's "premier" S-400s, as Kyiv's forces increasingly target Moscow's expensive long-range air defense systems in Crimea. At the start of 2023, Russia had around 96 S-400 mobile surface-to-air missile systems, also known by their NATO moniker, SA-21 Growlers, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies. It is difficult to get an accurate picture of Russian losses in mainland Ukraine and on the annexed Crimean peninsula, but according to Dutch open-source intelligence outlet, Oryx, Russia has lost key components of its S-400 batteries on at least five separate occasions, including command posts, launchers and radars. There may be other losses to Moscow's S-400 stocks, and some reports indicate unspecified damage to S-400 systems inside Russia. Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email. The S-400 is considered broadly equivalent to the U.S. military's Patriot air defense system, and the gold-standard of Russian air defense. It is the upgraded version of Moscow's Cold War S-300, which has also been used in Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Experts say the S-400, which had initially performed well in Ukraine and has hampered Kyiv's ability to fly at altitude, is now increasingly the target of Ukrainian attacks that it is failing to fend off. The loss of an S-400 system, though still relatively rare, will be a painful and expensive and humiliating hit to Russia's air defenses. Each S-400 battery comes with a price tag of around $200 million, Sidharth Kaushal, of the London-based Royal United Services Institute think tank, told Newsweek on Tuesday. "Of course, the system can be replaced but it is still not a trivial loss," said Kaushal. Two of Russia's recorded losses have come in the past 30 days. Ukrainian forces struck an S-400 near Yevpatoria, on the Russian-controlled Crimean peninsula, on Thursday. Drones initially attacked the radar and antennas, with missiles then taking out the remainder of the S-400 system, a Ukrainian security service source told Ukrainska Pravda. Kyiv also took out another S-400 system in western Crimea on August 23, in an attack which a Ukrainian official said involved a "new, completely modern" missile. This is thought to allude to a land-attack version of Ukraine's Neptune anti-ship missiles, and before the outbreak of all-out war in Ukraine in February 2022, Russia had five S-400 batteries in Crimea, according to Forbes. The S-400 is Russia's "premier" air defense system, yet Russia losing several S-400s in recent months is significant for several reasons, according to military expert David Hambling. The first is that the S-400 "appeared to have performed well previously but now appears vulnerable," he told Newsweek. "Secondly, knocking out S-400s punched holes in the air defense network that are then exploited," Hambling added. The S-400 system is linked to other Russian systems like variants of Moscow's Buk missile system, meaning that if an S-400 is taken out, it "undercuts the functionality of the local air defense systems as a whole," Kaushal said. "The S-400s have performed nominally," commented Ian Williams, deputy director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "They seem to have struggled against Storm Shadows, but without better insight into intercepts, it's hard to assess with certainty." The loss of S-400s had made Russian targets in Crimea more vulnerable to Ukrainian-fired Storm Shadow cruise missile attacks, Hambling added. On September 13, Ukraine damaged a Russian warship and submarine docked at Russia's Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol, with what are understood to be Storm Shadow missiles. Satellite images shared with Newsweek then showed the aftermath of the strikes on the Crimean dry dock. Following the second attack last week, the Washington-based think tank, the Institute for the Study of War, said Russia likely had "tactical failures" that could "reflect a wider systemic issue with Russian air defenses in occupied Crimea." "We may now be seeing the start of a trend where S-400s are increasingly targeted," Hambling said. Ukraine's complex strike operations taking out the S-400 systems show they are likely "of some concern" to Kyiv, Williams added. Yet Russia is likely working on beefing up its defenses around its S-400s, Hambling suggested. "This type of conflict tends to be a battle of successive improvements on both sides," he argued.
September 21, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Mike31mt said: Ok now do Africa, the Middle East, etc. Does this same mandate extend to every corner of the earth? You are really missing the Bush "World Police" days, eh. There is no moral mandate to do anything like what you say. Decisions are made in the best self-interest of the nation. Ruining Russia's military capacity is in the self-interest of the USA. Stop it with your idiotic high-horse analogies. If you don't see that this is why the country is investing so much, you are simple minded and it is also why the right wants to stop it -- they are aligned with Russia. Duh or should I write Da.
September 21, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: What should we do, send our navy? Who else deserves this level of US protection? Can you provide a list. I guess we'll start with all 193 UN members? Add Taiwan. Anyone else or just those 194? Ok got it, so let China roll through Taiwan and anyone else that's not a UN member, treaties and previous agreements be damned. Guess all that tough on China talk was only applicable exclusively between the years 2016-2020.
September 21, 20232 yr 28 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Ok got it, so let China roll through Taiwan and anyone else that's not a UN member, treaties and previous agreements be damned. Guess all that tough on China talk was only applicable exclusively between the years 2016-2020. just remember, trump said he would end this war in one day by sending more aid and military resources then the world has ever seen before.
September 21, 20232 yr "Let’s mobilize! Everyone who is unemployed goes to the front! We also need to return to Russia a 12-15 hour working day without days off. During the Great Patriotic War, no one asked questions. Women, children and old people worked. In the end we won!" - said Andrei Gurulyov, State Duma deputy from United Russia and former lieutenant general. Definitely the kinds of things that the side that's "winning" would be saying. Oh, then there's this ... Russia marching people from the far corners of their "empire" as fodder. Sick.
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