October 4, 20232 yr Quote Exclusive: US will transfer weapons seized from Iran to Ukraine The US will transfer thousands of seized Iranian weapons and rounds of ammunition to Ukraine, in a move that could help to alleviate some of the critical shortages facing the Ukrainian military as it awaits more money and equipment from the US and its allies, US officials said. US Central Command has already transferred over one million rounds of seized Iranian ammunition to the Ukrainian armed forces, it announced on Wednesday. The transfer was conducted on Monday, CENTCOM said in a press release. "The government obtained ownership of these munitions on July 20, 2023, through the Department of Justice’s civil forfeiture claims against Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC),” the statement says. The Justice Department announced in July that it was seeking the forfeiture of "over 9,000 rifles, 284 machine guns, approximately 194 rocket launchers, over 70 anti-tank guided missiles, and over 700,000 rounds of ammunition” seized from Iran by the US Navy. "These munitions were originally seized by U.S. Central Command naval forces from the transiting stateless dhow MARWAN 1, Dec. 9, 2022. The munitions were being transferred from the IRGC to the Houthis in Yemen in violation of the United Nations Security Council Resolution 2216,” the statement says. The Biden administration has for months been weighing how to legally send the seized weapons, which are stored in CENTCOM facilities across the Middle East, to the Ukrainians. Over the past year, the US Navy has seized thousands of Iranian assault rifles and more than one million rounds of ammunition from vessels used by Iran to ship weapons to Yemen. The seizures, frequently carried out with regional partner forces, target small stateless vessels on routes historically used to smuggle weapons to the Houthis in Yemen. In mid-January, the US assisted French forces in the seizure of 3,000 assault rifles headed from Iran to Yemen, as well as 23 anti-tank guided missiles. Following the seizure, the US took custody of the confiscated weapons. That illegal weapons interdiction capped a two month period in which the US and its partners seized a total of 5,000 weapons and 1.6 million rounds of ammunition, according to Central Command. Justice Department and defense officials have been working together to find a legal pathway to send the weapons to Ukraine, officials said, and one way is through the US’ civil forfeiture authorities. The Justice Department has filed at least two forfeiture complaints against seized Iranian ammunition and weapons this year. Apart from the announcement in July, DOJ announced in March that it was seeking the forfeiture of one million rounds of Iranian ammunition, thousands of proximity fuses for rocket-propelled grenades, and thousands of pounds of propellant for rocket-propelled grenades that the Navy seized from Iran as it was in transit to Yemen. "At the end of the day, Ukraine needs various supplies for the war effort, and while this isn’t a solution to all of Ukraine’s military needs, it will provide critical support,” said Jonathan Lord, a senior fellow and director of the Middle East security program at the Center for a New American Security who pushed the US to send the seized Iranian weapons to Ukraine in an op-ed in February. Lord added that the move could also have implications for Iran’s relationship with Russia. "For over a year, Iranian UAVs in the hands of the Russian military have been used to attack and murder Ukrainian civilians,” Lord said. "There is poetic justice in Ukraine utilizing seized Iranian weapons to defend its people against Russia’s criminal invasion and abuses. Additionally, this policy may put greater pressure on the burgeoning relationship between Moscow and Tehran.” The decision could drive a wedge between Iran and Russia, which have formed a de facto defense partnership over the last several months, with Iran supplying Russia with drones for its war in Ukraine and Russia cooperating with Iran on missile and air defense production. Just to save some crap posting, Procus and WV mike's reply:
October 4, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, paco said: Just to save some crap posting, Procus and WV mike's reply: FU neocon !
October 4, 20232 yr 55 minutes ago, Bill said: What was I thinking? Obviously such conduct never occurred on the left. Thank you for enlightening me. Nice job of editing my post so it fits your narrative. Over 10,000, 13k+ according to the FBI, people were arrested for the violence and destruction that happened during the BLM protests, so I’m not sure the false equivalency you are trying to make. So tell me again, when did a small group of BLM-democrats in congress oust their speaker and threaten to shut down the government?
October 4, 20232 yr 22 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Nice job of editing my post so it fits your narrative. Over 10,000, 13k+ according to the FBI, people were arrested for the violence and destruction that happened during the BLM protests, so I’m not sure the false equivalency you are trying to make. So tell me again, when did a small group of BLM-democrats in congress oust their speaker and threaten to shut down the government? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/17/george-floyd-protesters-charges-citations-analysis Oh no, it’s more facts and figures.
October 4, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, paco said: Damnit! I needed "Paco's Barber" and "Bork! Bork! Bork!" for Bingo You are quite needy
October 4, 20232 yr Hey, Russian punishment battalions will be hitting Ukraine soon. You know that will make a difference!
October 5, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, Tnt4philly said: I’m not sure what you mean by "lack of accountability by the left.” They are usually quick to eat their own when one goes off the reservation. Disagree
October 5, 20232 yr On 10/3/2023 at 5:16 PM, DEagle7 said: I have a hard time determining if this new "right wing" movement has any definable stances outside of just digging their feet in against what the "other side" believes/wants. I firmly believe a majority of these rubes would be fully on board for supporting Ukraine in this war if their guys were in charge (because of Fing course you should). Toddler-like behavior. It's insane that these people have managed to make the Fing Democratic party, basically The 3 Stooges of politics, look like the adults in the room on anything. Ive been trying to explain this angle for a while.
October 5, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, paco said: Just to save some crap posting, Procus and WV mike's reply: Wahh its "crap posting" if you dare question our devotion to Ukraine. But I did love the "but what tax dollars were actually used for that $75B??" and "you dont pay taxes because your state receives federal dollars" posts. Dazzling intellect
October 5, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Wahh its "crap posting" if you dare question our devotion to Ukraine. But I did love the "but what tax dollars were actually used for that $75B??" and "you dont pay taxes because your state receives federal dollars" posts. Dazzling intellect Ya love it, but yet still can't articulate it.
October 5, 20232 yr 35 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Wahh its "crap posting" if you dare question our devotion to Ukraine. But I did love the "but what tax dollars were actually used for that $75B??" and "you dont pay taxes because your state receives federal dollars" posts. Dazzling intellect I'd love it too if my welfare State was returned all the tax dollars its residents sent to the federal government. You are the inbred sugart*t sucking epitome of self-righteous ignorance who complains about where my federal taxes are spent. Just like your "word salad" response, all the above post says is "dummy dum dum can't understand how money works."
October 5, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Wahh its "crap posting" if you dare question our devotion to Ukraine. But I did love the "but what tax dollars were actually used for that $75B??" and "you dont pay taxes because your state receives federal dollars" posts. Dazzling intellect So you still need that $0.0005 or what?
October 5, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, paco said: Ya love it, but yet still can't articulate it. Articulate what??? What are you asking me about? The US govt has spent $75B of our tax dollars in Ukraine. Do you disagree?
October 5, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, Next_Up said: I'd love it too if my welfare State was returned all the tax dollars its residents sent to the federal government. You are the inbred sugart*t sucking epitome of self-righteous ignorance who complains about where my federal taxes are spent. Just like your "word salad" response, all the above post says is "dummy dum dum can't understand how money works." Must have been difficult to type this in between tears. "Your" federal tax dollars. I can see that youre just as dumb as you were 2 days ago.
October 5, 20232 yr 38 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: So you still need that $0.0005 or what? It actually comes out to about $225. Every man, woman, and child in the US could have gotten a check for around $225 instead of Ukraine. It would have been infinitely more impactful to our lives. Thanks to Bidenflation that would feed a family of 4 for one meal.
October 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Must have been difficult to type this in between tears. "Your" federal tax dollars. I can see that youre just as dumb as you were 2 days ago. Says the guy who hasn't articulated one fact in any of his posts. Thank you for upholding the new world order of "opinion is the same as fact" for all of your self righteous moronic brethren.
October 5, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: It actually comes out to about $225. Every man, woman, and child in the US could have gotten a check for around $225 instead of Ukraine. It would have been infinitely more impactful to our lives. Thanks to Bidenflation that would feed a family of 4 for one meal. No, every man woman or child who lives in a state that actually pays net federal taxes might be able to make a claim like that. In your state, it takes 2,000 West Virginians to make the claim that you have contributed net $1 to federal resources that have been allocated to Ukraine. I know, math is hard.
October 5, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Next_Up said: Says the guy who hasn't articulated one fact in any of his posts. Thank you for upholding the new world order of "opinion is the same as fact" for all of your self righteous moronic brethren. Articulated one fact? I just said $75B to Ukraine. What is that? Meanwhile you literally said I dont pay taxes because federal dollars are sent back to my state. That's dumb as hell.
October 5, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Next_Up said: No, every man woman or child who lives in a state that actually pays net federal taxes might be able to make a claim like that. In your state, it takes 2,000 West Virginians to make the claim that you have contributed net $1 to federal resources that have been allocated to Ukraine. I know, math is hard. This continues to be the dumbest argument Ive read in a while. I am an individual taxpayer you absolute moron. I pay taxes just like you or anyone else, regardless of the state in which I reside. How can you be so dumb?
October 5, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Mike31mt said: Articulated one fact? I just said $75B to Ukraine. What is that? Meanwhile you literally said I dont pay taxes because federal dollars are sent back to my state. That's dumb as hell. Essentially, all of the federal tax dollars of West Virginia residents are sent back to the state. Don't complain about Biden, complain about your State government that doesn't simply send you a check remitting your federal taxes. They are spending it in-state on other ish. No resident of your state has a leg to stand on in terms of saying "my federal tax dollars aren't being spent the way I want." Unless, of course, you are p*ssed that all that money comes back to your state and you want it to go somewhere else.
October 5, 20232 yr Just now, Next_Up said: Essentially, all of the federal tax dollars of West Virginia residents are sent back to the state. Don't complain about Biden, complain about your State government that doesn't simply send you a check remitting your federal taxes. They are spending it in-state on other ish. No resident of your state has a leg to stand on in terms of saying "my federal tax dollars aren't being spent the way I want." Unless, of course, you are p*ssed that all that money comes back to your state and you want it to go somewhere else. Im 100% ok with my tax dollars going to people who actually need it. Youre making a dumb, incoherent argument because I dared question our devotion to Ukraine. Go cry in Tate
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