January 25, 20223 yr I'm pretty sure I broke one of my own CVON rules by liking a couple of your anti-war posts defending the decision to withdraw. I had to shower right after, if I remember correctly. Now, like everyone else, I did criticize the execution of the withdrawal because it was atrocious and got Americans killed, but leaving was and is the right call. Just like not spending untold trillions and not sending US soldiers to die at the Ukrainian border is now the right call.
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Kz! said: I'm pretty sure I broke one of my own CVON rules by liking a couple of your anti-war posts defending the decision to withdraw. I had to shower right after, if I remember correctly. Now, like everyone else, I did criticize the execution of the withdrawal because it was atrocious and got Americans killed, but leaving was and is the right call. Just like not spending untold trillions and not sending US soldiers to die at the Ukrainian border is now the right call. Right, you just expected the pullout from 20-year long war zone to go perfectly
January 25, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Kz! said: You have to support war with Russia or you are a Russian sympathizer that's been brainwashed by propaganda, right? No Added: Russian propaganda states the US is on Russia’s border to overthrow Putin and take all the resources through might and control of Europe… while also being weak and broken as a country. Propaganda suckers such as yourself believe Biden is a dementia ridden geriatric who’s also navigating some genius Underground Railroad of pedophilia lizard people going to make us all socialists. They can’t be both.
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Right, you just expected the pullout from 20-year long war zone to go perfectly lol I really don't care to delve back into the Afghanistan withdrawal debate. It's pretty much settled. The withdrawal was an unmitigated disaster and one of many epic embarrassments Biden has already faced while in office. The only thing he has going for him now is that he's failed spectacularly so many times, people don't even care that his negligence got American soldiers killed. Oh, btw, then he responded by drone striking a vehicle of Afghan civilians killing women and children in the process. Other than that, the withdrawal went well.
January 25, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: Just like not spending untold trillions and not sending US soldiers to die at the Ukrainian border is now the right call. Also, this is pure fantasy. No one's spending trillions and the US isn't getting into a hot war with Russia. You know it and I know it. But supporting America while we pressure Russia from invading another country seems like a pretty easy, baseline position for any American. I know that's asking a lot from the group that openly and proudly supports terrorism, but still
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: Also, this is pure fantasy. No one's spending trillions and the US isn't getting into a hot war with Russia. You know it and I know it. But supporting America while we pressure Russia from invading another country seems like a pretty easy, baseline position for any American. I know that's asking a lot from the group that openly and proudly supports terrorism, but still lol what are you doing to support the US right now van? Posting positive Biden memes in the political pictures thread? How about if I send positive vibes to Antony Blinken right now? Would that help?
January 25, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: I don’t see anyone cheering dipsheet. Why are Russia a mortal enemy? What happened between the time we bought Alaska from them and now? They helped win WWII since then. So how have we arrived at a place where you look over and expect that they would even wish us harm? Let alone actually commit aggression against us
January 25, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Kz! said: lol I really don't care to delve back into the Afghanistan withdrawal debate. It's pretty much settled. The withdrawal was an unmitigated disaster and one of many epic embarrassments Biden has already faced while in office. The only thing he has going for him now is that he's failed spectacularly so many times, people don't even care that his negligence got American soldiers killed. Oh, btw, then he responded by drone striking a vehicle of Afghan civilians killing women and children in the process. Other than that, the withdrawal went well. It failed in large part because so many people just like those who post on this board cheer on a factional establishment in this country who like using our military for their own geopolitical advantages. This is not to say Biden did the best we could have done, but just to say elements in our own government either dragged their feet so hard or just outright sabotaged the effort just to make an example of those who wanted and ordered the withdrawal
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Why are Russia a mortal enemy? What happened between the time we bought Alaska from them and now? They helped win WWII since then. So how have we arrived at a place where you look over and expect that they would even wish us harm? Let alone actually commit aggression against us What a warm and fuzzy picture you’ve painted… Now remember the Cold War, Cuban missile crisis and Democracy vs Communism. Russia chose the US as an enemy because the people in power in Russia don’t want the people under their control to decide they want free, open democratic elections.
January 25, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Also, this is pure fantasy. No one's spending trillions and the US isn't getting into a hot war with Russia. You know it and I know it. But supporting America while we pressure Russia from invading another country seems like a pretty easy, baseline position for any American. I know that's asking a lot from the group that openly and proudly supports terrorism, but still When will you people who "just want to pressure” other countries ever be truly satisfied and the result will be that Russia is satisfied with its place and we are satisfied at the same time?
January 25, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Kz! said: lol what are you doing to support the US right now van? Posting positive Biden memes in the political pictures thread? How about if I send positive vibes to Antony Blinken right now? Would that help? If supporting America's too much to ask, how about just not quoting Russian propaganda for starters
January 25, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: What a warm and fuzzy picture you’ve painted… Now remember the Cold War, Cuban missile crisis and Democracy vs Communism. Russia chose the US as an enemy because the people in power in Russia don’t want the people under their control to decide they want free, open democratic elections. Nothing happened in the Cuban Missile crises. let me also remind you that our very own American Polling firms have found Putin has popular support.
January 25, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: When will you people who "just want to pressure” other countries ever be truly satisfied and the result will be that Russia is satisfied with its place and we are satisfied at the same time? Van knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US isn't planning on spending trillions or sending troops to the Ukrainian border, but we might trick the Russians into believing it! We just all have to send positive vibes as patriotic Americans. 1 minute ago, VanHammersly said: If supporting America's too much to ask, how about just not quoting Russian propaganda for starters Again, the "propaganda" in question was a direct quote from the Croatian President. Can you clarify if you're saying the quote was made up and never happened?
January 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: When will you people who "just want to pressure” other countries ever be truly satisfied and the result will be that Russia is satisfied with its place and we are satisfied at the same time? I don't really give an F if Russia is satisfied. They're an autocratic sheet hole.
January 25, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Very mentally healthy summation of the debate going on here. I'll double down on the positive vibes to Blinken to show more patriotism.
January 25, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Why are Russia a mortal enemy? What happened between the time we bought Alaska from them and now? They helped win WWII since then. So how have we arrived at a place where you look over and expect that they would even wish us harm? Let alone actually commit aggression against us The European (mostly British) hatred of Russia goes back centuries. Part of it stems from the Russians ability to resist colonialism. Today, the Europeans want control of Russia's energy deposits. When the Soviet Union dissolved, the Brits wanted BP to go in and develop Russian energy fields. Russia would have been like Venezuela. Putin stepped in and put a stop to that and they've never gotten over it.
January 25, 20223 yr 31 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Why are Russia a mortal enemy? What happened between the time we bought Alaska from them and now? They helped win WWII since then. So how have we arrived at a place where you look over and expect that they would even wish us harm? Let alone actually commit aggression against us You can’t be this stupid
January 25, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: Nothing happened in the Cuban Missile crises. let me also remind you that our very own American Polling firms have found Putin has popular support. I beg to differ. Quite a lot happened. Maybe you just don't care?
January 25, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, MidMoFo said: No Added: Russian propaganda states the US is on Russia’s border to overthrow Putin and take all the resources through might and control of Europe… while also being weak and broken as a country. Propaganda suckers such as yourself believe Biden is a dementia ridden geriatric who’s also navigating some genius Underground Railroad of pedophilia lizard people going to make us all socialists. They can’t be both. This post has proven to be prophetic: 1 hour ago, Kz! said: lol no I wasn't. I swear ishlibs have been so thoroughly mind-effed that they just make up their own reality to confirm their own biases. To break it down: Quote Propaganda suckers such as yourself believe Biden is a dementia ridden geriatric This is painfully obvious to anyone that's watched him speak in public over the past several years. Quote navigating some genius Underground Railroad of pedophilia lizard people going to make us all socialists. lol lmao wut?
January 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Kz! said: Damn, I used to think we were the only anti-war posters left on this board. I guess I'll have to carry that burden alone. Feels bad. Most of us love America. We are painfully aware that you and some of your fellow loons are exceptions.
January 25, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Seventy_Yard_FG said: What happened between the time we bought Alaska from them and now? Seriously? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution
January 25, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Gannan said: Most of us love America. We are painfully aware that you and some of your fellow loons are exceptions. Yes, only those that love America enjoy seeing trillions of taxpayer dollars and the lives of young Americans sacrificed for Ukrainian border security. CVON lolbertarianism coming in hot.
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