March 21Mar 21 14 minutes ago, paco said: You literally blame Ukraine for this war, stable boy. Also, I have a new name for @Procus Putin started it. Z is to blame for it continuing. Yeah.
March 21Mar 21 14 minutes ago, paco said: You literally blame Ukraine for this war, stable boy. Also, I have a new name for @Procus Putin started it. Z is to blame for it continuing. Yeah.
March 21Mar 21 How dare someone defend the country they live in against an invasion from a murderous dictator. The nerve!
March 21Mar 21 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Putin started it. Z is to blame for it continuing. Yeah. Please explain how the one defending their country is blamed for continuing the war? Please explain why it Putin is not at fault?
March 21Mar 21 19 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said: Please explain how the one defending their country is blamed for continuing the war? Please explain why it Putin is not at fault? Please explain how Ukraine ever wins this war if it continues and how they ever get that land back How long do you honestly think that will take and how many more Ukrainians will it take dying for it This is the best opportunity they have before Russia takes even more. Putin is at fault, but reality is what it is and Z is just tossing bodies at a lost cause.
March 21Mar 21 36 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Please explain how Ukraine ever wins this war if it continues and how they ever get that land back How long do you honestly think that will take and how many more Ukrainians will it take dying for it This is the best opportunity they have before Russia takes even more. Putin is at fault, but reality is what it is and Z is just tossing bodies at a lost cause. You are a weird one
March 21Mar 21 26 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: You are a weird one That is a great and very detailed response. The honest answer is the people who want it to continue don't have an answer. There is no path to victory. They just want it to keep going, and so does Z because once it ends he loses power and probably goes to jail for fraud.
March 21Mar 21 11 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: That is a great and very detailed response. The honest answer is the people who want it to continue don't have an answer. There is no path to victory. They just want it to keep going, and so does Z because once it ends he loses power and probably goes to jail for fraud. You’re really confused that Ukraine and Zelensky want to keep fighting? It doesn’t matter if there’s a "path to victory” when the outcome would lead to Zelensky and other political leaders in Ukraine being executed. They’re gonna fight to the death whether the U.S. helps them out or not. You seriously don’t understand that part of warfare?
March 21Mar 21 4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: You’re really confused that Ukraine and Zelensky wants to keep fighting? It doesn’t matter if there’s a "path to victory” when the outcome would lead to Zelensky and other political leaders in Ukraine being executed. They’re gonna fight to the death whether the U.S. helps them out or not. You seriously don’t understand that part of warfare? Cool, which is why I said let them have fun. I'm glad I voted for a guy who will say toss rocks then. If they won't settle and get the best outcome possible then they are on their own. Without our weapons and money Europe can't fill in the gaps and Russia will own all of it. Or they could take door #2 where it ends now and Trump tries to get them back as much land as possible. You are right that Z knows if the war stops there will be consequences for him, though.
March 21Mar 21 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Cool, which is why I said let them have fun. I'm glad I voted for a guy who will say toss rocks then. If they won't settle and get the best outcome possible then they are on their own. Without our weapons and money Europe can't fill in the gaps and Russia will own all of it. Or they could take door #2 where it ends now and Trump tries to get them back as much land as possible. You are right that Z knows if the war stops there will be consequences for him, though. I don’t understand where you’re coming from.
March 21Mar 21 1 hour ago, Diehardfan said: Putin started it. Z is to blame for it continuing. Yeah. Clinton set the stage in 1994.
March 21Mar 21 6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I don’t understand where you’re coming from. Obviously. There is no path to victory for Ukraine as you said, so it's fighting just to lose more. Money and lives into the grinder for nothing. Stop now and they may get some land back. Keep going and Russia is taking even more. If they want to kamikaze themselves go for it but we are going to walk.
March 21Mar 21 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Obviously. There is no path to victory for Ukraine as you said, so it's fighting just to lose more. Monday and lives into the grinder for nothing. Stop now and they may get some land back. Keep going and Russia is taking even more. If they want to kamikaze themselves go for it but we are going to walk. That’s not the way it works.
March 21Mar 21 22 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: That’s not the way it works. Sure it is. Trump will make sure of it. Settle or we walk. Their choice. That's it.
March 21Mar 21 6 hours ago, Diehardfan said: I'm sure there are lots of horrible things on both sides, Putting a kids skull on a pike? No, that did not happen on both sides. F you for even insinuating that such conduct happens in the Ukrainian military.
March 21Mar 21 23 minutes ago, Bill said: Putting a kids skull on a pike? No, that did not happen on both sides. F you for even insinuating that such conduct happens in the Ukrainian military. They literally have a Nazzi unit. Spare me the theatrics. Nasty crap happens on both sides in war. Russians are probably more brutal and the Ukrainians aren't saints. It needs to end. Unless you want them to keep dying for nothing and losing even more land.
March 21Mar 21 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: I don’t understand where you’re coming from. Please go into the flat earth thread and pose this same question to EagleVA.
March 21Mar 21 Damn we're "both sidesing" child beheading now? Cool... @DrPhilly I take back (almost) everything I've made fun of you for in the past.
March 21Mar 21 32 minutes ago, DEagle7 said: Damn we're "both sidesing" child beheading now? Cool... @DrPhilly I take back (almost) everything I've made fun of you for in the past. Nah, he’s still awful.
March 21Mar 21 2 hours ago, Dave Moss said: I don’t understand where you’re coming from. Of course you don’t. You have actually studied US History, particularly the post-war order.
March 21Mar 21 59 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: They literally have a Nazzi unit. Spare me the theatrics. Nasty crap happens on both sides in war. Russians are probably more brutal and the Ukrainians aren't saints. It needs to end. Unless you want them to keep dying for nothing and losing even more land. A couple of things: they don’t have such a unit, and are you really trying to compare putting a child’s head on a pike with anything the Ukrainians are doing? Take a step back. And literally F your own face.
March 21Mar 21 1 hour ago, Bill said: A couple of things: they don’t have such a unit, and are you really trying to compare putting a child’s head on a pike with anything the Ukrainians are doing? Take a step back. And literally F your own face. Yeah, they actually do, but Ukraine said they are no longer Naziii because funding and weapons bans from the US suck so bygones be bygones, right? CNN even called them a far-right battalion in 22. Oops. War is brutal and horrible and neither side is angels. Russians are SOBs. It's beyond horrible to think about what you mention, but that doesn't mean the war needs to go on when Ukraine has no shot of winning and will only lose land. I love the mindset of horrible things are happening to civilians. Let's keep this war going and make them endure more, though. I still have yet to hear any of you give one actual plan for how this war ends any differently or any better for Ukraine because you know they will never take that land back on their own.
March 21Mar 21 1 hour ago, DEagle7 said: Damn we're "both sidesing" child beheading now? Cool... @DrPhilly I take back (almost) everything I've made fun of you for in the past. It was just a matter of time until you came around
March 21Mar 21 8 hours ago, Diehardfan said: Cool, which is why I said let them have fun. I'm glad I voted for a guy who will say toss rocks then. If they won't settle and get the best outcome possible then they are on their own. Without our weapons and money Europe can't fill in the gaps and Russia will own all of it. Or they could take door #2 where it ends now and Trump tries to get them back as much land as possible. You are right that Z knows if the war stops there will be consequences for him, though. Unfortunately, Trump is not trying to get them anything at all in the "deal".
March 21Mar 21 6 hours ago, Diehardfan said: and make them endure more This is your average Trump voter, folks. They really are this stupid. Every single one of them.
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