Citizens Arrest

[Dave Moss]

12 minutes ago, SNOORDA said:

Watching the video made my stomach turn.  So sad and so unnecessary.  And just flat out ugly and ill go out on a limb and call it racist.  

Eh, we don’t even know for sure if it was him in the house.  I guess we’ll find out more at the trial though (if there is one).

[Toastrel]

Not sure what perfect world you folks live in, but here in Montco, most housing developments are not real secure.

Like the house Abrery supposedly walked into. I don't see a fence.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

So what do you think Aubrey stole?  In the video he’s not carrying anything.  Maybe a pneumatic drill down his pants??

That's not a drill..........................................

[Dave Moss]

Most of the houses in my area have fences, but I think in suburban and rural areas you see it less.

For example:

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Most of the houses in my area have fences, but I think in suburban and rural areas you see it less.

these are on my phone:

Are these your stakeout pictures for future robberies ??

[Dave Moss]

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Are these your stakeout pictures for future robberies ??

Yes.

[probably]

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Well, there seems to be a lot of folks who think the proper punishment is some slugs to the chest.

Nobody said that. 

What we're saying isn't about this case. We're just trying to tell you, that in general, no one should be going to other people job sites and looking around unattended...because apparently that isn't common sense around here.  

...and when I say other people job sites...I mean property that doesn't belong to you and you're are not going there to meet the contractor or owner...because apparently that needs to be spelled out too.  

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, probably said:

Nobody said that. 

What we're saying isn't about this case. We're just trying to tell you, that in general, no one should be going to other people job sites and looking around unattended...because apparently that isn't common sense around here.  

...and when I say other people job sites...I mean property that doesn't belong to you and you're are not going there to meet the contractor or owner...because apparently that needs to be spelled out too.  

Agreed.  We have a ton of job site theft in Spokane.  I am getting at least two calls a month from the cops asking if materials they found are things we provided to general contractors.

[probably]

Just now, downundermike said:

Agreed.  We have a ton of job site theft in Spokane.  I am getting at least two calls a month from the cops asking if materials they found are things we provided to general contractors.

Meth ain't free!

[Dave Moss]

1 minute ago, probably said:

Nobody said that. 

What we're saying isn't about this case. We're just trying to tell you, that in general, no one should be going to other people job sites and looking around unattended...because apparently that isn't common sense around here.  

...and when I say other people job sites...I mean property that doesn't belong to you and you're are not going there to meet the contractor or owner...because apparently that needs to be spelled out too.  

There’s maybe two or three dozen houses in my neighborhood under construction right now and they all have fences up I think.  So even if I wanted to walk onto the construction site it’s not possible ( unless I jump the fence).

[binkybink77]

6 minutes ago, probably said:

Nobody said that. 

What we're saying isn't about this case. We're just trying to tell you, that in general, no one should be going to other people job sites and looking around unattended...because apparently that isn't common sense around here.  

...and when I say other people job sites...I mean property that doesn't belong to you and you're are not going there to meet the contractor or owner...because apparently that needs to be spelled out too.  

But if there isn't a fence what do you expect??     

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, probably said:

Meth ain't free!

Not sure its meth.  Russians stealing and re selling to make a buck.

[Kz!]

1 hour ago, DEagle7 said:

I don't think it's mutually exclusive to argue that people shouldn't enter construction sites and that that shooting the guy for doing it isn't an appropriate response. Both seem like common sense.

Did Aubery get shot for going into the house or trying to disarm a dude?

[probably]

Just now, binkybink77 said:

But if there isn't a fence what do you expect??     

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?? I'm seriously dumbfounded right now. 

I expect kids to do it, but when they do they know they shouldn't be doing it....yet here we have adults thinking it's a totally normal thing to do.    "Hey honey, I'll be right back. There's a house down the street being constructed. I'm just gonna hop in the window and take a look around." 

 

[Toastrel]

Arbery hopped in a window?

[hey suess]

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

Well, there seems to be a lot of folks who think the proper punishment is some slugs to the chest.

Dead men tell no snails.

[Kz!]

7 minutes ago, probably said:

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?? I'm seriously dumbfounded right now. 

I expect kids to do it, but when they do they know they shouldn't be doing it....yet here we have adults thinking it's a totally normal thing to do.    "Hey honey, I'll be right back. There's a house down the street being constructed. I'm just gonna hop in the window and take a look around." 

 

What do you expect when you build a house in the middle of a popular jogging trail?

[Toastrel]

Are you morons arguing that going into the house makes the shooting justified?

[probably]

Just now, Kz! said:

Did Aubery get shot for going into the house or trying to disarm a dude?

Probably a little of both...likely along with some racism and some overzealous self entitled authority mixed in...and lots of fear and ignorance.

[Alpha_TATEr]

6 minutes ago, probably said:

Probably a little of both...likely along with some racism and some overzealous self entitled authority mixed in...and lots of fear and ignorance.

none of that matters, you shouldn't try to disarm a dude hunting you down and taking the law into their own hands. duh.

[NOTW]

17 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Are you morons arguing that going into the house makes the shooting justified?

I don't see anyone defending the shooting.  

I "think" the conversation simply got sidetracked into personal experiences with walking onto construction sites and is that ok to do or not...apart from this shooting.  But you never know, has TEW weighed in yet with his legal expertise?  

IMO it was a lynching and murder, and I don't know how a jury could see that video and not agree.  And the idea that some lawyer is going to argue to defend these guys makes my skin crawl.

[probably]

17 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Arbery hopped in a window?

 

11 minutes ago, Toastrel said:

Are you morons arguing that going into the house makes the shooting justified?

As I've said multiple times, NO.

I was just shocked at how many people in this thread think it's okay to just stroll into any construction site they want and look around while nobody is there. Not talking about this case at all. Talking in general. 

[greend]

47 minutes ago, Kz! said:

What do you expect when you build a house in the middle of a popular jogging trail?

1,4,5,6,2

[Alpha_TATEr]

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The former police officer accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery worked as a chief investigator in the District Attorney's office without proper certification or arrest powers, according to new reports.  

Gregory McMichael, 64, and his son Travis McMichael, 34, have been charged with murder after unarmed jogger Arbery was shot dead in Brunswick, Georgia on February 23.

Personnel records obtained Tuesday by The Associated Press show the elder McMichael worked for Brunswick Circuit DA Jackie Johnson's office from November 1995 through May 2019. He consistently got good performance reviews.

But in 2014, the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council notified the district attorney's office that in five years since 2005, Gregory McMichael had either failed to do enough training hours or failed to take mandatory firearms or use-of-deadly force classes, documents show. 

 

 

[probably]

25 minutes ago, NOTW said:

I don't see anyone defending the shooting.  

I "think" the conversation simply got sidetracked into personal experiences with walking onto construction sites and is that ok to do or not...apart from this shooting.  But you never know, has TEW weighed in yet with his legal expertise?  

IMO it was a lynching and murder, and I don't know how a jury could see that video and not agree.  And the idea that some lawyer is going to argue to defend these guys makes my skin crawl.

Did Aubrey have a heart attack right before he was shot? He was jogging.