May 6, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, TEW said: Disagree with you on this. The left doesn’t care how rich you are as long as your wealth supports their agenda (as already mentioned in this thread Soros, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc). The problem they have with Musk is that he’s a step backwards for them in regards to censorship of their political enemies. Not sure on if Trump remains banned, but Musk has already talked openly about how speech that isn’t illegal (threats of violence etc) should be allowed. He’s specifically talked about COVID and the Hunter Biden NYP story getting censored. He’s had his own issues with tranny jokes. THAT is what has them up in arms. They cry about Zuckerberg all the time - just witness the non-stop hearings and threats to break Facebook up (from Warren…shocking). They all but blamed Zuck for Trump getting elected. And they railed against Gates back in the 1990s and 2000s before he stepped back from MSFT. Soros does get a free pass. They are mad about him allowing more freedom of content, but this all stems from their incessant need to simply hate the rich. Musk, Zuckerberg, hedge fund managers, private equity managers. The demonization of the successful fueled by jealousy is the backbone of today’s Democratic Party. It’s how they can claim the people paying basically all the taxes are somehow not paying their fair share.
May 6, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, vikas83 said: They cry about Zuckerberg all the time - just witness the non-stop hearings and threats to break Facebook up (from Warren…shocking). They all but blamed Zuck for Trump getting elected. And they railed against Gates back in the 1990s and 2000s before he stepped back from MSFT. Soros does get a free pass. They are mad about him allowing more freedom of content, but this all stems from their incessant need to simply hate the rich. Musk, Zuckerberg, hedge fund managers, private equity managers. The demonization of the successful fueled by jealousy is the backbone of today’s Democratic Party. It’s how they can claim the people paying basically all the taxes are somehow not paying their fair share. Zuckerberg isn’t hated because he’s rich my guy. It’s that facebook uses your data in a way that you have less privacy. Yeah, facebook allowing disinformation in 2016 is part of it too.
May 6, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dave Moss said: Zuckerberg isn’t hated because he’s rich my guy. It’s that facebook uses your data in a way that you have less privacy. Yeah, facebook allowing disinformation in 2016 is part of it too. You got the Ministry of Truth now so guess all is good
May 6, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, vikas83 said: They cry about Zuckerberg all the time - just witness the non-stop hearings and threats to break Facebook up (from Warren…shocking). They all but blamed Zuck for Trump getting elected. And they railed against Gates back in the 1990s and 2000s before he stepped back from MSFT. Soros does get a free pass. They are mad about him allowing more freedom of content, but this all stems from their incessant need to simply hate the rich. Musk, Zuckerberg, hedge fund managers, private equity managers. The demonization of the successful fueled by jealousy is the backbone of today’s Democratic Party. It’s how they can claim the people paying basically all the taxes are somehow not paying their fair share. Yeah, they got mad at Zuckerberg for not censoring their political enemies. Now that he does, no one on the left cares. Bill Gates, 20 years ago sure, but now they love him because he spends all his money on leftist causes. Finance hasn’t really been attacked lately as it once was. Why? The bulge brackets got on board with woke culture. Soros gets a free pass because he finances them. That’s all you need to do. Obviously there is a deep resentment of the rich among the Democrat base, but the party uses it as a cudgel to force the wealthy and corporations into supporting their causes. It’s basically a low key extortion racket — submit, or else.
May 6, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, DrPhilly said: You got the Ministry of Truth now so guess all is good Democrats are losing the information war and have been for decades. I doubt the Ministry of Truth even makes a dent.
May 6, 20223 yr 12 hours ago, TEW said: Disagree with you on this. The left doesn’t care how rich you are as long as your wealth supports their agenda (as already mentioned in this thread Soros, Gates, Zuckerberg, etc). The problem they have with Musk is that he’s a step backwards for them in regards to censorship of their political enemies. Not sure on if Trump remains banned, but Musk has already talked openly about how speech that isn’t illegal (threats of violence etc) should be allowed. He’s specifically talked about COVID and the Hunter Biden NYP story getting censored. He’s had his own issues with tranny jokes. THAT is what has them up in arms. As opposed to the right, who love capitalism, unless it is a rich liberal. THen suddenly all conservative, pro-capitalism values go out the window. We're pro-business, but BAN DISNEY NOW!!!
May 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Toastrel said: As opposed to the right, who love capitalism, unless it is a rich liberal. THen suddenly all conservative, pro-capitalism values go out the window. We're pro-business, but BAN DISNEY NOW!!! Who is saying "ban” Disney?
May 6, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, they got mad at Zuckerberg for not censoring their political enemies. Now that he does, no one on the left cares. Bill Gates, 20 years ago sure, but now they love him because he spends all his money on leftist causes. Finance hasn’t really been attacked lately as it once was. Why? The bulge brackets got on board with woke culture. Soros gets a free pass because he finances them. That’s all you need to do. Obviously there is a deep resentment of the rich among the Democrat base, but the party uses it as a cudgel to force the wealthy and corporations into supporting their causes. It’s basically a low key extortion racket — submit, or else. Trying to eradicate polio, malaria, TB, and HIV is a leftist cause? Trying to develop a more robust next-gen nuclear reactor is a leftist cause? Trying to distribute covid vaccines to some of the farthest corners of the planet to limit the probability of future variants is a leftist cause? What the hell is wrong with you? Those should be EVERYONE's causes. What does that say about how you perceive "the right" if philanthropy is something you perceive to be exclusive to "the left"?
May 6, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, TEW said: Yeah, they got mad at Zuckerberg for not censoring their political enemies. Now that he does, no one on the left cares. Bill Gates, 20 years ago sure, but now they love him because he spends all his money on leftist causes. Finance hasn’t really been attacked lately as it once was. Why? The bulge brackets got on board with woke culture. Soros gets a free pass because he finances them. That’s all you need to do. Obviously there is a deep resentment of the rich among the Democrat base, but the party uses it as a cudgel to force the wealthy and corporations into supporting their causes. It’s basically a low key extortion racket — submit, or else. Right. Global demographics are the cudgel that keeps corporations supporting liberal causes. If the right wants to compete for the ear of the corporations, then appeal to a younger audience by not trotting out babbling psychos that support authoritarianism.
May 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said: Trying to eradicate polio, malaria, TB, and HIV is a leftist cause? Trying to develop a more robust next-gen nuclear reactor is a leftist cause? Trying to distribute covid vaccines to some of the farthest corners of the planet to limit the probability of future variants is a leftist cause? What the hell is wrong with you? Those should be EVERYONE's causes. What does that say about how you perceive "the right" if philanthropy is something you perceive to be exclusive to "the left"? Gates should be more like the Koch brothers!
May 6, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, VanHammersly said: Right. Global demographics are the cudgel that keeps corporations supporting liberal causes. If the right wants to compete for the ear of the corporations, then appeal to a younger audience by not trotting out babbling psychos that support authoritarianism. You’re acting like wokism is popular. It’s not. And, ironically, it’s an authoritarian worldview. Which is why the left is so deeply interested in censorship. Their political movement gets destroyed without it.
May 6, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Trying to eradicate polio, malaria, TB, and HIV is a leftist cause? Trying to develop a more robust next-gen nuclear reactor is a leftist cause? Trying to distribute covid vaccines to some of the farthest corners of the planet to limit the probability of future variants is a leftist cause? What the hell is wrong with you? Those should be EVERYONE's causes. What does that say about how you perceive "the right" if philanthropy is something you perceive to be exclusive to "the left"? Yeah but Gates is obsessed with poop and that's like....weird.
May 6, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, TEW said: You’re acting like wokism is popular. It’s not. And, ironically, it’s an authoritarian worldview. Which is why the left is so deeply interested in censorship. Their political movement gets destroyed without it. It's all future projection and appeal to younger demographics. Corporations showing interracial families in their ads, supporting gay stuff, etc. is an appeal to their younger customer base. It projects a lot better than appealing to the rage of crusty old dudes who will be dead in 20 years. Again, if Republicans don't like it, they should stop allowing the absolute dregs of society to take control of their party.
May 6, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: Democrats are losing the information war and have been for decades. I doubt the Ministry of Truth even makes a dent. Right. It's at the same time offensive to the core values we believe when it comes to the role of government in people's lives, useless as an agency, AND a net loser politically. Democrats suck at politics. The reason they're relevant is because only people that suck more than Democrats are Republicans. 13 hours ago, TEW said: Poor is relative, but compared to their original fortunes, yes — it’s something like 1% of what it used to be in real terms. It’s basically what happens to every family fortune. It was a joke.
May 6, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: Right. It's at the same time offensive to the core values we believe when it comes to the role of government in people's lives, useless as an agency, AND a net loser politically. Exactly. Get rid of it.
May 6, 20223 yr And just like that, trumpbots reviled Elon Musk. Hope he enjoyed being a hero of the right while it lasted.
May 6, 20223 yr But Nunes says Trump encouraged Musk to buy Twitter.... Who am I kidding... Nunes is clearly a liar. He lies about everything.
May 6, 20223 yr I'm not so certain Musk's deal to buy Twitter is going to close. He equivocated with an "if" the deal closes in a recent quote. Ain't over until the fat lady sings.
May 6, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, VanHammersly said: It's all future projection and appeal to younger demographics. Corporations showing interracial families in their ads, supporting gay stuff, etc. is an appeal to their younger customer base. It projects a lot better than appealing to the rage of crusty old dudes who will be dead in 20 years. Again, if Republicans don't like it, they should stop allowing the absolute dregs of society to take control of their party. No, it’s not. The woke crap on commercials is due to lawfare/liability and sh**libs in the advertising departments. Do you really think this appeals to their customer base?
May 6, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, JohnSnowsHair said: It was a joke. Bears repeating for the Moss types in here.
May 6, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, NOTW said: The crowd that says Twitter is a cesspool, no one cares about it and they don't use it sure do post a lot of tweets in various topics these days. 🤔 😄 I don't have an account but I'll share tweets I come across If it were gone then I'd just share the article links again
May 6, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, vikas83 said: It's semantics. It doesn't say that Trump spoke to him directly while encouraging him to do it. People all over the country were encouraging him to do it and almost no one actually spoke to him directly about it. If people want to use something so silly to attack Nunes, feel free, but he could just as easily claim he was misinterpreted.
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