May 25, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: I know you guys are thoroughly illiterate and all, but the context is pretty clear from the article. The term "circus" is referring to the drawn out process of him complaining about bots and hints at backing out of the deal after trying to secure the funding to buy the company. "This [takeover] circus show has been a major overhang on Tesla's stock and has been a black eye for Musk so far," Ives said Monday, adding that "major market pressure for tech stocks" has only added to the uncertainty. More like the market is dog crap than his circus.
May 25, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said: More like the market is dog crap than his circus. He already committed, that's his problem for entering into an agreement to buy a tech company during highly turbulent market conditions. All this BS about bots is thinly veiled buyer's remorse, but you'd never know it if you're too busy fawning over him and taking everything he says at face value.
May 26, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: He already committed, that's his problem for entering into an agreement to buy a tech company during highly turbulent market conditions. All this BS about bots is thinly veiled buyer's remorse, but you'd never know it if you're too busy fawning over him and taking everything he says at face value. This is what you get for signing a binding commitment after doing no due diligence, and waiving all diligence outs.
May 26, 20223 yr Everybody knew twitter was full of bots. Funny story, I have a second account with the handle @BannedMoss and when I got on it the other it said that account was suspended. They’re cracking down!!
May 26, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: I know you guys are thoroughly illiterate and all, but the context is pretty clear from the article. The term "circus" is referring to the drawn out process of him complaining about bots and hints at backing out of the deal after trying to secure the funding to buy the company. "This [takeover] circus show has been a major overhang on Tesla's stock and has been a black eye for Musk so far," Ives said Monday, adding that "major market pressure for tech stocks" has only added to the uncertainty. Yeah he should just cut a check and pay them for lying and obviously misrepresenting their company Have you ever bought anything at all? If you go to the store to buy a loaf of bread for $2, but instead of a full loaf of bread its a bag with 3 slices, would you still pay $2 ? Is that a circus or just negotiating/not wanting to waste a F ton of money? It wouldn't have been drawn out if they didnt immediately start covering their tracks and boldly misrepresenting their companys "assets"
May 26, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah he should just cut a check and pay them for lying and obviously misrepresenting their company Have you ever bought anything at all? If you go to the store to buy a loaf of bread for $2, but instead of a full loaf of bread its a bag with 3 slices, would you still pay $2 ? Is that a circus or just negotiating/not wanting to waste a F ton of money? It wouldn't have been drawn out if they didnt immediately start covering their tracks and boldly misrepresenting their companys "assets" It sounds like he had the chance to check the bag to see if all the bread was in it, but he waived that right. That's on him.
May 26, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Yeah he should just cut a check and pay them for lying and obviously misrepresenting their company Have you ever bought anything at all? If you go to the store to buy a loaf of bread for $2, but instead of a full loaf of bread its a bag with 3 slices, would you still pay $2 ? Is that a circus or just negotiating/not wanting to waste a F ton of money? It wouldn't have been drawn out if they didnt immediately start covering their tracks and boldly misrepresenting their companys "assets" Prove it. Cite the exact disclosure where they lied or misrepresented the company. I'd love to see this...
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, VanHammersly said: It sounds like he had the chance to check the bag to see if all the bread was in it, but he waived that right. That's on him. Maybe, I havent read that much into it but it certainly seems that there was some funny business going Im not sure I can kill him for not doing due diligence if theyre cooking the books, so to speak.
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Maybe, I havent read that much into it but it certainly seems that there was some funny business going Im not sure I can kill him for not doing due diligence if theyre cooking the books, so to speak. Well you'd never know if someone was "cooking the books" if you decided to up and waive your right to find out. Again, that's on him.
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Maybe, I havent read that much into it but it certainly seems that there was some funny business going Im not sure I can kill him for not doing due diligence if theyre cooking the books, so to speak. I've posted the language a few times. It's from the 10-K. It says that TWTR estimated the bots at 5%, but then says the estimate is highly subjective and could be much higher. So...Musk has nothing. One more time: Quote For example, there are a number of false or spam accounts in existence on our platform. We have performed an internal review of a sample of accounts and estimate that the average of false or spam accounts during the fourth quarter of 2021 represented fewer than 5% of our mDAU during the quarter. The false or spam accounts for a period represents the average of false or spam accounts in the samples during each monthly analysis period during the quarter. In making this determination, we applied significant judgment, so our estimation of false or spam accounts may not accurately represent the actual number of such accounts, and the actual number of false or spam accounts could be higher than we have estimated.
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, we_gotta_believe said: Prove it. Cite the exact disclosure where they lied or misrepresented the company. I'd love to see this... Look I believe what Musk says based on the behavior of Twitter in the past and their magical "adjustment" of followers immediately after Musk made the agreement It stinks, it makes me suspicious. They clearly have/had something to hide. I havent pored over pages of financial disclosures. Have you?
May 26, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Look I believe what Musk says based on the behavior of Twitter in the past and their magical "adjustment" of followers immediately after Musk made the agreement It stinks, it makes me suspicious. They clearly have/had something to hide. Giving up already? Come on you puss. One of my absolute favorite things about CVON is when the hospital janitor from West Virginia tries to weigh on econ or finance discussions. Just like your 401k through the roof comment, I'm not gonna let this one slide either. I want you to literally cite the disclosure that proves your claim twitter was lying. Quote I havent pored over pages of financial disclosures. Have you? I'm not the one claiming they lied, you are, dumb ass. The burden of proof is on you.
May 26, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: I've posted the language a few times. It's from the 10-K. It says that TWTR estimated the bots at 5%, but then says the estimate is highly subjective and could be much higher. So...Musk has nothing. One more time: "Much higher" is a little different than "higher" Sounds like legal-ese to me. It could be 6% and Id say "OK thats not bad". But 15% or higher which is what Musk seems to think? It makes the statement you posted a little disingenuous. Again, its fishy to me. "We tried really hard at counting but just used our judgement and came up with a number, take it or leave it" Now if he waived some rights to recompense then that sounds dumb to me.
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: "Much higher" is a little different than "higher" Sounds like legal-ese to me. It could be 6% and Id say "OK thats not bad". But 15% or higher which is what Musk seems to think? It makes the statement you posted a little disingenuous. Again, its fishy to me. "We tried really hard at counting but just used our judgement and came up with a number, take it or leave it" Now if he waived some rights to recompense then that sounds dumb to me. Courts have ruled on this kind of language -- magnitude is irrelevant. There's a reason every M&A lawyer worth a damn says Musk has very little chance. His best hope to get out is the banks pull his financing.
May 26, 20223 yr Again, one of Elon's goals was to cleanup the bots. He even explicitly said that he wanted to clean it up. Now he says that if it's more than 5% he wants no part of it. He's becoming more of a joke in this exchange the more time goes on.
May 26, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: "Much higher" is a little different than "higher" Sounds like legal-ese to me. It could be 6% and Id say "OK thats not bad". But 15% or higher which is what Musk seems to think? It makes the statement you posted a little disingenuous. Again, its fishy to me. "We tried really hard at counting but just used our judgement and came up with a number, take it or leave it" Now if he waived some rights to recompense then that sounds dumb to me. Then don't F'ing buy it if it sounds so fishy. Stop trying to pretend like it's not his fault for failing to read through the disclosures more carefully before committing to a $40B purchase.
May 26, 20223 yr Stop making excuses for people who are supposed to be smarter than you. I guess I get wanting to root for someone because they said something once you agreed with but the blind loyalty this dude commands even after doing/saying things that are completely insane is just f'ing wild. We're backsliding. Big time.
May 26, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, mayanh8 said: Stop making excuses for people who are supposed to be smarter than you. I guess I get wanting to root for someone because they said something once you agreed with but the blind loyalty this dude commands even after doing/saying things that are completely insane is just f'ing wild. We're backsliding. Big time. Remind you of anyone in particular?
May 26, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said: Giving up already? Come on you puss. One of my absolute favorite things about CVON is when the hospital janitor from West Virginia tries to weigh on econ or finance discussions. Just like your 401k through the roof comment, I'm not gonna let this one slide either. I want you to literally cite the disclosure that proves your claim twitter was lying. Youre one of the most pathetic morons on this board. My 401k, like the majority of Americans, has been ravaged by the incompetent moron you helped elect. I even gave you the index fund so you could look it up yourself. How about you? Id love to see your "soaring" 401k you lying clown
May 26, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, mayanh8 said: Stop making excuses for people who are supposed to be smarter than you. I guess I get wanting to root for someone because they said something once you agreed with but the blind loyalty this dude commands even after doing/saying things that are completely insane is just f'ing wild. We're backsliding. Big time. I get you guys defending a bunch of lefty activists who portrayed themselves as free speech proponents. Its not blind loyalty, twitter is an obvious cesspool and hell yes Im rooting for Musk to tear it down.
May 26, 20223 yr Just now, Mike31mt said: Youre one of the most pathetic morons on this board. My 401k, like the majority of Americans, has been ravaged by the incompetent moron you helped elect. I even gave you the index fund so you could look it up yourself. How about you? Id love to see your "soaring" 401k you lying clown Doing just fine, still up 15% from when Trump lost. Tell us more about how yours was flat under Obama for 8 years and then soared through the roof in Trump's first term. That story never disappoints.
May 26, 20223 yr Found the post where I did the math for you @Mike31mt... On 8/12/2021 at 3:36 PM, we_gotta_believe said: Perfect, thank you. So from when Obama was elected until when Trump was elected, vtivx saw an increase of ~99%. Meaning just under 50% per term. From Trump to Biden's election, vtivx saw an increase of ~40%. From Biden's election until present day, vtivx is up 27%. Now please explain how your 401k was flat during the terms of growth where your fund's share price increased 50% per term, but exploded during Trump's term when it grew only 40%? And for bonus points, tell me how much Sleepy Joe is tucking away in your coat pocket in less than a year's time while shooting you with his finger guns and licking his ice cream cone. Now who's the liar?
May 26, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Doing just fine, still up 15% from when Trump lost. Tell us more about how yours was flat under Obama for 8 years and then soared through the roof in Trump's first term. That story never disappoints. Nice wordsmithing there, what a disingenuous clown you are. From 'when Trump lost"....you mean when you and your politicians completely destroyed our economy to "flatten the curve" (for years on end)? What kind of **** defends the Biden economy?? 4 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said: Found the post where I did the math for you @Mike31mt... Now who's the liar? Youre a moron
May 26, 20223 yr 42 minutes ago, Mike31mt said: Nice wordsmithing there, what a disingenuous clown you are. From 'when Trump lost"....you mean when you and your politicians completely destroyed our economy to "flatten the curve" (for years on end)? What kind of **** defends the Biden economy?? Youre a moron Pick whatever starting points you wish and the math won't change. Your comment about your 401k being flat under Obama but soaring under Trump is 100% horseshit regardless of whether you measure it from early Nov or late Jan. I know numbers and calendars are always tricky for you rubes, but that's why I'm here to lend a helping hand.
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