1 hour ago, EaglesAddict said:

Funny, I've been thinking about the idea of trading UP from 30 to get Robinson if he makes it into the 20's.  Still a long shot, but an intriguing idea nonetheless.

I know Howie will never do it based on his philosophy and history, but man, Robinson in this offense is just something I'd really love to see.

It would be comical to jump ahead of Dallas to take him if we had any inside intel that that is who they were targeting.  Goedert all over again.

Having 2 x first round picks I think kinda gives us more flexibility in going against draft history with what position they take with that 2nd pick in round 1.  Could very well be a RB or LB (depending on who is available at the time of the pick).  I still don't think it is likely but probably increases the likelihood from say 5% to maybe 25-30%.  Problem is, I just don't think he'll still be available mid 20s.  I think he'll end up going in the 11-20 range.

My first post back!

I have always similarly subscribed to the same value of running backs that the Eagles have. They're usually a bad idea in the first round and you can always find talent in the middle of the draft or later. That being said, I could see the Eagles taking Robinson. Even at 10, I wouldn't be shocked or disagree. I think they have the luxury and I think they're in win now mode. They want an immediate contributor and they know the window is as open as it will get in the next two or three years. 

While I could see it happening, I don't. I think they trade up to #6 - #8 for Carter, Witherspoon, Gonzalez or back to #17 - #20 and gamble that he or someone else will be there. 

1 hour ago, time2rock said:

It would be comical to jump ahead of Dallas to take him if we had any inside intel that that is who they were targeting.  Goedert all over again.

Having 2 x first round picks I think kinda gives us more flexibility in going against draft history with what position they take with that 2nd pick in round 1.  Could very well be a RB or LB (depending on who is available at the time of the pick).  I still don't think it is likely but probably increases the likelihood from say 5% to maybe 25-30%.  Problem is, I just don't think he'll still be available mid 20s.  I think he'll end up going in the 11-20 range.

That would be awesome if that happened, lol.  But I agree, I don't think he lasts until the 20's.  I actually wonder if he ends up going BEFORE 10th, lol.  Bears could be a surprise team that takes him at 9th.

4 hours ago, time2rock said:

Not sure he makes it past Dallas (26) if he somehow is still on the board.  If we really wanted him later in the 1st guessing it would involve a trade up.  Would be funny to swing a deal with the Giants (25) to jump just ahead of Dallas and grab him.  30 plus our 2023 3rd for 25 and NY's 2023 5th ought to get it done.  

Trade up from 30 a few makes more sense to me than trade down from 10. Personally I'm hoping someone jumps into the top 10 and grabs him and just rips the band-aid off :)

4 hours ago, Talonblood said:

My only concern is this: EVERYBODY is fast in the NFL, and just because you can dance in college doesn't mean you can dance in the NFL. Still, if they can get him later in the 1st round than the 10th pick, go for it.

Any above avg RB would look like a HOFr behind this Oline and this scheme with the threat of Hurts. Hoping Penny can stay healthy for a bit so that we could see what a beast would look like in this offense in the event that we don't land Bijan or Gibbs. Having one that's a great receiver would add a whole new dimension to those empty set looks.

Eagles drafting Bijan Robinson at pick #10 is becoming a trendy pick by the so called "draft experts”. Charles Davis, Peter King, Nate Davis - USA Today, Rhett Lewis - NFL Network, Dan Jeremiah said they should but didn’t expect they would… pretty trendy.

 

So now we know it probably won’t happen.

10 is too high of a pick for him. Personally what I think happens... Eagles wait to see if Carter is available at 10, if he is, they'll take him. If Carter is off the board, Eagles trade back into the teens gain an extra pick and most likely take Robinson if he's still there.

17 hours ago, Portyansky said:

10 is too high of a pick for him. Personally what I think happens... Eagles wait to see if Carter is available at 10, if he is, they'll take him. If Carter is off the board, Eagles trade back into the teens gain an extra pick and most likely take Robinson if he's still there.

This is reasonable. Although I strongly think  Eagles want Carter, Murphy or Paris Johnson at 10. If all gone, like you said they trade back but I don’t think they trade out the top 15. They must only move down a few spots. If they want Bijan, personally I think it is stupid to trade down thinking he will still be there. Too many variables and risk. Use the top 10 pick and trade down from 30 if you want more picks. Eagles need to hit on the 10th pick. That’s more important than drafting a worse player just because of positions.

I’ll repeat, what’s worse than drafting a RB in the top 10? Drafting a bust in the top 10. Nobody more sure fire to hit on this team than Bijan, outside of Carter of course.

I highly doubt we draft Robinson at 10 (or even with a trade down to the 15-20 range) simply because it just isn't their MO to take a RB that high.  But you can't deny how much of an impact he would make on this offense and most likely would be the BPA when our pick rolls around (he is a top 5 talent in this draft class).  And having a back like him would take away carries from Hurts which would serve as a relatively inexpensive insurance policy for what will soon to be our $50M/year face of the franchise.  

Personally, I would sooner grab a DL or one of the top CBs with our first pick and if Robinson is still sitting there as we get into the top of the 20s then perhaps use pick 30 to try to swing a deal with Jacksonville to jump ahead of both Dallas and NY who both could have eyes on him (the latter if they are unable to come to terms with Barkley).  

I gave this a lot more thought. I love an exciting player. This guys brings that with both his running and pass catching abilities. The last player that really brought a WOW factor was DJax- imo. Go for it, Howie.

3 hours ago, Talonblood said:

I gave this a lot more thought. I love an exciting player. This guys brings that with both his running and pass catching abilities. The last player that really brought a WOW factor was DJax- imo. Go for it, Howie.

Trade up from 30 to 20 if he's still there. Anything higher would probably be a bad idea. Gibbs gives receiving ability as well and is explosive so I could do with either. AJ and TO didn't give you the WOW? :)

2 hours ago, judunno said:

Trade up from 30 to 20 if he's still there. Anything higher would probably be a bad idea. Gibbs gives receiving ability as well and is explosive so I could do with either. AJ and TO didn't give you the WOW? :)

They gave me some thrills.... but I am talking like....WOW. DJax did some CRAZY exciting things. This guy looks like he could do that type of thing.

Quarter billion for five years….

Jalen Hurts may be drafting Bijan at 10

asks for AJ, gets AJ, and will now draft Bjian 

27 minutes ago, MrFadedGlory said:

Quarter billion for five years….

Jalen Hurts may be drafting Bijan at 10

asks for AJ, gets AJ, and will now draft Bjian 

It's certainly more of a possibility than in the past. Plus they both share the same agent too.

Wouldn't be upset with the pick but still would certainly be surprised.

2 hours ago, MrFadedGlory said:

Quarter billion for five years….

Jalen Hurts may be drafting Bijan at 10

asks for AJ, gets AJ, and will now draft Bjian 

 

1 hour ago, eaglesfan0075 said:

It's certainly more of a possibility than in the past. Plus they both share the same agent too.

Wouldn't be upset with the pick but still would certainly be surprised.

Make it happen Howie 

I'm normally in the "would never use a 1st on a RB" group.  However, the more I think about it, and the more I think about our current situation (we were basically one play away from winning the SB in February ... our window is as wide open right now as it can possibly get, even with the losses of quite a few players).  I normally think of 1st rd picks as players you hope to become part of the nucleus for the next 7-10 years (like a Lane Johnson, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox).  But with that window of opportunity present now, it kinda makes sense to maximize our chances of winning a Super Bowl in 2023, 2024 ... more than focusing on 2027, 2028.  

Having said all that, IF we drafted Robinson, I would hope it would be via trade back from 10 (so that we grab extra picks) or we use 10 on a premiere talent like Carter or Witherspooon and then grab Robinson via a trade up from 30 (preferred).  

40 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I'm normally in the "would never use a 1st on a RB" group.  However, the more I think about it, and the more I think about our current situation (we were basically one play away from winning the SB in February ... our window is as wide open right now as it can possibly get, even with the losses of quite a few players).  I normally think of 1st rd picks as players you hope to become part of the nucleus for the next 7-10 years (like a Lane Johnson, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox).  But with that window of opportunity present now, it kinda makes sense to maximize our chances of winning a Super Bowl in 2023, 2024 ... more than focusing on 2027, 2028.  

Having said all that, IF we drafted Robinson, I would hope it would be via trade back from 10 (so that we grab extra picks) or we use 10 on a premiere talent like Carter or Witherspooon and then grab Robinson via a trade up from 30 (preferred).  

I'm torn. RBs that high just seem risky given the nature of the position when you could potentially get someone in the trenches that could be here dominating for the next 10 years. If Howie goes with it I'm fine with it. If you can get Josh Jacobs like production from him cool but that's a bit much to ask from a rookie. Just wondering how much of this is a smoke screen to get someone to jump ahead of the Eagles so that an OL or DL drops to them. We don't have to solve all of the problems this year. With only 1 RB under contract past this year a RB in 2024 isn't outside the realm of possibilities either and their there some studs in that 2024 class as well that are dual threats.

29 minutes ago, judunno said:

I'm torn. RBs that high just seem risky given the nature of the position when you could potentially get someone in the trenches that could be here dominating for the next 10 years. If Howie goes with it I'm fine with it. If you can get Josh Jacobs like production from him cool but that's a bit much to ask from a rookie. Just wondering how much of this is a smoke screen to get someone to jump ahead of the Eagles so that an OL or DL drops to them. We don't have to solve all of the problems this year. With only 1 RB under contract past this year a RB in 2024 isn't outside the realm of possibilities either and they’re there some studs in that 2024 class as well that are dual threats.

I do think we go DL with that first pick, whether it is at 10 or with a small trade up (or trade down).  The previous post was really just throwing out my thoughts on using a 1 on a RB and really nothing about what I expect Howie to do.  

7 minutes ago, time2rock said:

I do think we go DL with that first pick, whether it is at 10 or with a small trade up (or trade down).  The previous post was really just throwing out my thoughts on using a 1 on a RB and really nothing about what I expect Howie to do.  

If they could grab him with at trade up from 30 to like 20 that would be sweet :) I gotta feeling that an old school hungry for a RB team is going to try to take him top 10.

1 minute ago, judunno said:

If they could grab him with at trade up from 30 to like 20 that would be sweet 🙂 I gotta feeling that an old school hungry for a RB team is going to try to take him top 10.

IF we were to use a 1 on him would much prefer a trade up from 30 (as you said and I also stated earlier) and use 10 on a premiere talent like Carter or Witherspoon.  I would definitely feel really damn good if that is how day 1 ended.  

37 minutes ago, time2rock said:

IF we were to use a 1 on him would much prefer a trade up from 30 (as you said and I also stated earlier) and use 10 on a premiere talent like Carter or Witherspoon.  I would definitely feel really damn good if that is how day 1 ended.  

I don't think we have enough assets to be trading up this year.  And I doubt that we'll get a shot at a Carter or a Witherspoon.  Robinson might actually be the BPA at #10.  That doesn't mean we'll take him, of course.  He's a RB, and it's the 1st Round.  More likely we take the best OL/DL available.

1 hour ago, ilikepargo said:

I don't think we have enough assets to be trading up this year.  And I doubt that we'll get a shot at a Carter or a Witherspoon.  Robinson might actually be the BPA at #10.  That doesn't mean we'll take him, of course.  He's a RB, and it's the 1st Round.  More likely we take the best OL/DL available.

We have plenty of assets particularly 2024 picks. If they want to move they can move.

35 minutes ago, judunno said:

We have plenty of assets particularly 2024 picks. If they want to move they can move.

I'm not a fan of giving up future picks.  If we do that, then next year we'll be in the same boat we're in now - wishing we had more picks.

4 minutes ago, ilikepargo said:

I'm not a fan of giving up future picks.  If we do that, then next year we'll be in the same boat we're in now - wishing we had more picks.

You do realize that with comp picks they're projected to have about 12 picks in 2024 correct? Plus they have an extra 2nd.

On 4/10/2023 at 7:49 AM, time2rock said:

Not sure he makes it past Dallas (26) if he somehow is still on the board.  If we really wanted him later in the 1st guessing it would involve a trade up.  Would be funny to swing a deal with the Giants (25) to jump just ahead of Dallas and grab him.  30 plus our 2023 3rd for 25 and NY's 2023 5th ought to get it done.  

Would be a sick retaliation for when we traded up with Dallas for DeVonta. NYG returning the favor and we benefit. One could only dream to get Carter and Robinson in the 1st round...