1 minute ago, BFit said:

 

easy there tiger, no one in here is actually talking about the ruling. its just a bunch of autistic screaming about abortions and inssurections. basically an adult daycare

this place isn't exactly ripe with constitutional scholars, brah. 

16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

What if he specifically told them he'd meet them there, but then went home, ate a KFC Double Down and watched it on TV, while doing absolutely nothing to stop it despite having the authority to do so?

Biden fomented the arizona insurrection and then didn't try to stop it. Presumably because he'd been asleep since around 6 pm, but he should definitely be investigated, if that's what you're getting at here, which I think it is.

13 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

  I have no idea.  It just feels like something Trump would eat.

dont get my hopes up bro  

1 hour ago, Dave Moss said:

What are you babbling about?  Illegal abortions were common before 1973.  Obviously after 1973 they became uncommon.  We’re just going back to an era where women will get illegal abortions again.

if you want to actually argue about case law either enroll in law school or get on twitter and argue with some of the (real) lawyers on there.  Or as a last resort you could PM Procus.

What emotional drivel

abortions are still legal and accessible

liberals are disgusting people

Shrieking liberals vs. guy who's like "why not let the states decide?"

Ishlibs are so retarded lmao

 

1 hour ago, TEW said:

It’s not, but I know of a book that has some ideas that would be:

Wow, another agreement!  Yes, I 100% agree that we are quickly moving towards a theocracy comparable to the more "liberal" muslim anti-women Hell Holes.

40 minutes ago, Kz! said:

Biden fomented the arizona insurrection and then didn't try to stop it. Presumably because he'd been asleep since around 6 pm, but he should definitely be investigated, if that's what you're getting at here, which I think it is.

I'm with you.  If he promoted the event for weeks, showed up in person and stirred the crowd up, told them to meet him at the AZ capital, then left them high and dry like a bish and ate a Mexican pizza while watching them storm the capital on TV, then honestly, I think you could just skip the investigation and just go ahead and lock him up.

25 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

What emotional drivel

abortions are still legal and accessible

Yeah, we're not falling for that one ever again.  We know exactly where ya'll are 100000% ready to take this;  human rights at inception.

These women may have to CROSS STATE LINES to get an abortion.  STATE LINES people! 

1 hour ago, Paul852 said:

Green Day hasn't made good music since Dookie (ironically enough)

they've had a few good songs, but yeah most of their good stuff is early. 

post-Dookie includes: Brain Stew, Holiday, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, and Good Riddance. gets very thin after that.

20 minutes ago, downundermike said:

 

Just a wild thought- maybe a woman should be careful to whom they decide to have sex with?

Crazy I know, but there are a lot of crazy people out there, men too, should be very careful with whom they have sex with.  It's wrought with all kind of dangers:

Sexually transmitted diseases, crabs, unwanted children, crazy baby mama drama, financial hardships. I mean if the schools should be teaching anuything about sex to kids, the bolded should be near the top right next to - contraceptives, and how easy they are to get.  

1 hour ago, BFit said:

so i started reading some of Dobbs. first off, i think the media (in all formats) is not doing its job because it took me slumming it in CVON to even hear about Dobbs. 

you seriously only heard about the SC overturning Roe v Wade from CVON?

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

Just a wild thought- maybe a woman should be careful to whom they decide to have sex with?

Crazy I know, but there are a lot of crazy people out there, men too should be very careful with whom they have sex with.  It's wrought with all kind of dangers:

Sexually transmitted diseases, crabs, unwanted children, crazy baby mama drama, financial hardships. I mean if the schools should be teaching anuything about sex to kids, the bolded should be near the top right next to - contraceptives, and how easy they are to get.  

I just had a great idea.  Hear me out.  What if, to curb these sexual desires, women all wore a piece of fabric over their faces, maybe put little slits for eyes so they could see, but otherwise no one would be able to see their faces, which would help men from being aroused in their presence.  We're not barbarians, so we would obviously let their husbands/fathers see their faces, but otherwise, it's just a mass of walking fabric.  Might be a good solution.  Think about it.

42 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

What emotional drivel

abortions are still legal and accessible

That's pretty locale specific man. In most of America yeah it's still legal, but that's going to change pretty quickly in a lot of places.

The main question in the near term is what the political blowback may be for the right. Could range anywhere from near zero in some places to awakening a suburban mom beast in others. 

1 hour ago, dawkins4prez said:

nonsense... by and large, it's the same people.  The same people who think equal pay is bogus are the ones who want to illegalize or severely limit abortion.

 

Ok, so are you open to the concept that there are a large chunk of people who believe in regulated but available choice AND also that equal pay for equal work is an absolute BUT that the framing of the equal pay discussion today doesn't include equal work any longer and as such isn't an accurately positioned discussion?

12 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

they've had a few good songs, but yeah most of their good stuff is early. 

post-Dookie includes: Brain Stew, Holiday, Boulevard of Broken Dreams, and Good Riddance. gets very thin after that.

Only good song out of the list IMO

I am trying to understand, how some people can have so much compassion for a baby outside the womb, and yet completely disconnect any feelings and have ZERO compassion for the baby in the womb? 

I get that they were conditioned to believe it's not "a baby" until it's born, but doesn't logic kick in at some point, and you realize,  thats a real human baby developing in the womb. 

I can see drawing a distinction at a heartbeat, that seems like a reasonable place. That no heartbeat, means it is just a clump of cells and having a heartbeat means it is no longer JUST a part of the WOMAN host. Which can be as early as 3 weeks after fertilization, which is why it's unnacceptable for those Pro Choice advocates, because thats often too early for them to tell. (which would not be my problem)

 

17 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

These women may have to CROSS STATE LINES to get an abortion.  STATE LINES people! 

As ridiculous as it is that you think this is some non consequential barrier, don't worry, the Red States are also lining up laws to go after those that cross those lines for an abortion.  The I guess you'll think it's really funny how they only have to go to Canada and move there.

11 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

I just had a great idea.  Hear me out.  What if, to curb these sexual desires, women all wore a piece of fabric over their faces, maybe put little slits for eyes so they could see, but otherwise no one would be able to see their faces, which would help men from being aroused in their presence.  We're not barbarians, so we would obviously let their husbands/fathers see their faces, but otherwise, it's just a mass of walking fabric.  Might be a good solution.  Think about it.

And of course notice how he said, "WOMEN should choose more carefully who they have sex with".  Not men, of course, who are the ones who instigate sexual intercourse most of the time.  These f'ers are walking parodies of barbarism.

3 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I am trying to understand, how some people can have so much compassion for a baby outside the womb, and yet completely disconnect any feelings and have ZERO compassion for the baby in the womb? 

I get that they were conditioned to believe it's not "a baby" until it's born, but doesn't logic kick in at some point, and you realize,  thats a real human baby developing in the womb. 

I can see drawing a distinction at a heartbeat, that seems like a reasonable place. That no heartbeat, means it is just a clump of cells and having a heartbeat means it is no longer JUST a part of the WOMAN host. Which can be as early as 3 weeks after fertilization, which is why it's unnacceptable for those Pro Choice advocates, because thats often too early for them to tell. (which would not be my problem)

 

It's only "reasonable" because that's what you've been conditioned to believe is reasonable.  Where you see the heartbeat as the indicator of human life, many people see brain development as the indicator of human life.  Apes have a very similar heart as we do.  So do plenty of other lesser beings.  What separates us is our brains.  Brain development is the key indicator of human life. 

1 minute ago, Ipiggles said:

I am trying to understand, how some people can have so much compassion for a baby outside the womb, and yet completely disconnect any feelings and have ZERO compassion for the baby in the womb? 

I get that they were conditioned to believe it's not "a baby" until it's born, but doesn't logic kick in at some point, and you realize,  thats a real human baby developing in the womb. 

I can see drawing a distinction at a heartbeat, that seems like a reasonable place. That no heartbeat, means it is just a clump of cells and having a heartbeat means it is no longer JUST a part of the WOMAN host. Which can be as early as 3 weeks after fertilization, which is why it's unnacceptable for those Pro Choice advocates, because thats often too early for them to tell. (which would not be my problem)

 

Logic says very clearly to me that if it can't live outside the womb, it's not a baby yet.  A heartbeat is a completely sentimental launching point that has nothing to do with anything.  Like, why not the liver or the kidneys?

1 hour ago, mr_hunt said:

this place isn't exactly ripe with constitutional scholars, brah. 

procus says he is an attorney