Anyway, still will be quite interesting if someone lobs one into a Church ; I got that previous post all messed up

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

Oops, yeah

Yeah, guess so

I was accused of funding Munson’s trip to Wisconsin.

 

1 minute ago, Dave Moss said:

I was accused of funding Munson’s trip to Wisconsin.

 

Did you?

3 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

I was accused of funding Munson’s trip to Wisconsin.

 

Pretty sure Visa or Mastercard were the ones ultimately accused.

4 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Did you?

 

6 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

 

So you pointed Munson to that page?

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

And which party keeps calling for more Socialist programs? God some of you really lack ability to reason. It's Left hilarious

Exactly

 

I can tell you the Education Dept and the War on Drugs have both been spectacular successes in rural WV.  We need more of this excellence, just keep up the good work

1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:

So you pointed Munson to that page?

Nah, I’m messing with you

4 minutes ago, Dave Moss said:

Nah, I’m messing with you

Nah, you sent it to him

edit: Next time send him a pound of frozen chicken

1 hour ago, Ipiggles said:

And which party keeps calling for more Socialist programs? God some of you really lack ability to reason. It's Left hilarious

Let me know how the Republican base would feel if social security got cancelled... Bush tried privatizing it but facing a revolt from his own voters saw it buried.

The rural poor (Republicans) benefit heavily from "socialist" programs. This isn't a "left" problem, this is a "Americans in general are entitled dbags regardless of their personal politics."

14 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said:

Let me know how the Republican base would feel if social security got cancelled... Bush tried privatizing it but facing a revolt from his own voters saw it buried.

The rural poor (Republicans) benefit heavily from "socialist" programs. This isn't a "left" problem, this is a "Americans in general are entitled dbags regardless of their personal politics."

Back to my original point. The best argument for Abortion is there would be LESS far leftists raising more far leftists kids. 

😜

 

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Shall we talk about inner city leaches on society, while we're at it?    

 

 

sure...go ahead and talk about it.  

Just now, mr_hunt said:

 

sure...go ahead and talk about it.  

can we talk about people living in the Appalachians after that ? or better yet, my next door Fng neighbor's daughter and son in law ? 

12 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of all the places I have traveled on the east coast.  Large portions of WV is the worst.  Steubenville, Wheeling, Weirton area......much worse than Appalachians.  Makes western pa seem like heaven.  

Unfortunately I spend time in Baltimore, DC and Philly. 

I would much rather be in rural PA, then any of these liberal cess pools

21 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Of all the places I have traveled on the east coast.  Large portions of WV is the worst.  Steubenville, Wheeling, Weirton area......much worse than Appalachians.  Makes western pa seem like heaven.  

well, it's WV so ... 

What's the bigger threat to women of child bearing age in the U.S.?

1.  Having to go out of state for an abortion or use an abortion pill after unprotected sex

2.  Not being able to buy baby formula due to the current shortage

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It’s another world from western Pa ….so….

so ... you agree with me agreeing with you ? i'm just adding that it's not a surprise that wv is much worse. 

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I agree that you agree to agree.  
 

 

 

Agreed?

I always found it odd how certain people who claim to be Philly Phans go out of their way to talk **** on the city. Like, how can you hate the city but love the team it represents? Those things should be mutually exclusive. To me, a team has always been, first and foremost, a representation of the city's collective population and its defining cultural traits. 

6 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I always found it odd how certain people who claim to be Philly Phans go out of their way to talk **** on the city. Like, how can you hate the city but love the team it represents? Those things should be mutually exclusive. To me, a team has always been, first and foremost, a representation of the city's collective population and its defining cultural traits. 

It's not that cut and dry.  You grow up in a place, you grow to root for the home team.

I moved out of Philly because it was becoming more dangerous, because of high taxes, and otherwise because the quality of life was declining there.  That doesn't mean I throw the baby out with the bath water. 

Under your logic, even though it's now dangerous to walk up chestnut and walnut in CC after dark, I nevertheless need to still love the city because I root for its teams.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

9 minutes ago, Procus said:

I moved out of Philly because it was becoming more dangerous...

 

 

I think this is overblown. When did you move out?

 

 

Aside from some occasional spikes, crime has decreased precipitously over the last few decades, especially when you take it back further to like the 1970s. A tale as old as time is the curmudgeon ranting about how bad crime has gotten when, across the country as a whole, cities have gotten safer overall.

Just now, EaglesRocker97 said:

 

 

I think this is overblown. When did you move out?

 

Aside from some occasional spikes, crime has decreased precipitously over the last few decades, especially when you take it back further to like the 1970s. A tale as old as time is the curmudgeon ranting about how bad crime has gotten when, across the country as a whole, cities have gotten safer overall.

Because your chart is not an accurate reflection of reality.

So you know, I used to be able to safely walk from one of the center city to the other in the evening during the 70's and part of the 80's.  You can't walk one block safely there now in the evening.  Down around South Street where I used to live, it's scary at nighttime for somebody to walk alone.

When all of your friends left behind in Center City said it's become a much darker, more dangerous place after the George Floyd riots, you tend to believe them over some random chart in a football message board.  Incidentally, your chart stops at 2015.

Regardless, people stay attached to their home teams more often than not after they move out.  But often they move from a place because the quality of life in that place has declined.

4 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said:

I think this is overblown. When did you move out?

 

I moved out shortly after in succession, I was robbed at gun point, my car got broken into, and 2 months later, my car got stolen off the street.

7 minutes ago, Procus said:

Because your chart is not an accurate reflection of reality.

So you know, I used to be able to safely walk from one of the center city to the other in the evening during the 70's and part of the 80's.  You can't walk one block safely there now in the evening.  Down around South Street where I used to live, it's scary at nighttime for somebody to walk alone.

When all of your friends left behind in Center City said it's become a much darker, more dangerous place after the George Floyd riots, you tend to believe them over some random chart in a football message board.  Incidentally, your chart stops at 2015.

Regardless, people stay attached to their home teams more often than not after they move out.  But often they move from a place because the quality of life in that place has declined.

 

Lol, no, dude, those graphs are the reality, they just don't "fit your narrative" . Your anecdotes and perception does not comport with the facts.

I'm not saying that there aren't pockets of the city that have gone to ****, but overall, crime has decreased. I think this is another instance of older people being frightened and confused by a changing world and falling back on the "there goes the neighborhood!" trope.

I just tried to find some quick graphs, and these were the first that came up. There is more recent data out there, the graphs just weren't convenient. I added one that includes  2019, though. There have been some upticks in recent years, but like I said, if you look at the long-term picture, crime has dramatically decreased. You also still didn't answer when you left, which, I imagine was further back at a point where the crime level was definitely dropping.

14 minutes ago, Procus said:

I moved out shortly after in succession, I was robbed at gun point, my car got broken into, and 2 months later, my car got stolen off the street.

 

Damn, I'm sorry. I can understand how your opinion of the city would be affected by that experience, it doesn't necessarily mean that crime has risen overall in the long-term, though. I was asking the year, though, to get a sense for what was happening with crime in Philly overall when that happened.