May 10, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Procus said: Not in Miami Beach - but my friends in Center City say the city never recovered. A friend of mine with a shop at K&A said the National Guard was there with armored vehicles. You think all that was caused by right wing Trump supporters? Damn, Center City is gone? Sh**
May 10, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Procus said: both sides - but mostly on your side I didn't see a bunch of right win nut jobs tearing up cities in 2020 or in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. But we know that the last 5 years, the fringe left has been very active in tearing up cities.
May 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Ipiggles said: or in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. But we know that the last 5 years, the fringe left has been very active in tearing up cities. Shhh. The insane left crowd here hopes you didn't notice.
May 10, 20223 yr 25 minutes ago, Procus said: I don't think there's any doubt that the majority of people in the U.S. support legalizing abortion in the first trimester. But legally, the issue is whether this one of state law or federal law. From what I've seen, it's a state law issue. Even RBG took issue with Roe v Wade from a legal standpoint and thought there were better cases than Roe to bolster abortion rights. You'll see different results if you conduct this poll on a state by state basis instead of uniformly on a national basis. Please elaborate
May 10, 20223 yr I lived in Philly for a decade. From 2010 to 2020. Fairmount section. Loved it. We always planned to move out eventually once our son was old enough for school (or if we wanted more space). Then the pandemic hit and we were working from home while keeping our son home with us in a 1200 sf condo, so that moved up our timeline as there was only so long we were going to be able to do that. Our kitchen turned into our office, had to eat all our meals in the living room, etc... And some of the benefits of living in the city were then lost as we weren't going inside restaurants and all. Wish I had a crystal ball though. We closed on our new home in Cherry Hill in November 2020. Came under contract for selling our Philly home in November as well. Got a good price for it but not as much as we thought we were going to get. Had we pulled it off the market and then put it back on in the Spring, probably would have gotten close to $50g more. Oh well, we made the best decision we could with the info we had at the time.
May 10, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Saltpeter said: Please elaborate Roe v Wade was decided based on a woman's fundamental "right to privacy" in the 14th amendment. Legally, many have opined that the opinion is flawed. Even RBG herself was not comfortable with the legal underpinning of the decision as the 14th amendment created no such right vis a vis abortion. Under the 10th amendment, powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved for the states. 10 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: I lived in Philly for a decade. From 2010 to 2020. Fairmount section. Loved it. We always planned to move out eventually once our son was old enough for school (or if we wanted more space). Then the pandemic hit and we were working from home while keeping our son home with us in a 1200 sf condo, so that moved up our timeline as there was only so long we were going to be able to do that. Our kitchen turned into our office, had to eat all our meals in the living room, etc... And some of the benefits of living in the city were then lost as we weren't going inside restaurants and all. Wish I had a crystal ball though. We closed on our new home in Cherry Hill in November 2020. Came under contract for selling our Philly home in November as well. Got a good price for it but not as much as we thought we were going to get. Had we pulled it off the market and then put it back on in the Spring, probably would have gotten close to $50g more. Oh well, we made the best decision we could with the info we had at the time. Hasn't your home in Cherry Hill gone up in value during that time period?
May 10, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Procus said: Hasn't your home in Cherry Hill gone up in value during that time period? I'm sure it has. My point was with our Philly home, we put it on the market in the fall, which is typically a down time anyway. Had we just held onto it for a few more months and then put it on the market in the spring, we would have been able to get around $50g more than what we did. But, again, no crystal ball. Didn't want to risk doing that and then end up getting the same, or possibly less, offer and carry two mortgages and pay that additional interest for another few months.
May 10, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: I'm sure it has. My point was with our Philly home, we put it on the market in the fall, which is typically a down time anyway. Had we just held onto it for a few more months and then put it on the market in the spring, we would have been able to get around $50g more than what we did. But, again, no crystal ball. Didn't want to risk doing that and then end up getting the same, or possibly less, offer and carry two mortgages and pay that additional interest for another few months. It all evens itself out. With the rate things are going in Philly, in a few years, you may have had a lot of trouble selling that property. I've seen wild fluctuations in the downtown real estate market through the years. You made a good decision.
May 10, 20223 yr Our Attorney General sent the FBI after parents protesting school boards. What’s he had to say about protesters fire bombing pro-life offices, and protesting outside of the houses of Supreme Court justices? Thank god cocaine Mitch kept this utter failure off of the Supreme Court.
May 10, 20223 yr Author We went over this already. He didn't send the FBI. He directed them to set up meetings with state and local law enforcement groups to discuss the issue.
May 10, 20223 yr I asked this in the other thread, but this is the better place for it. What are the chances of "Death penalty for women who get an abortion" is part of the 2024 gop platform?" My wife thinks the republicans aren't crazy enough to do this, I think she is grossly underestimating them.
May 10, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, Gannan said: I asked this in the other thread, but this is the better place for it. What are the chances of "Death penalty for women who get an abortion" is part of the 2024 gop platform?" My wife thinks the republicans aren't crazy enough to do this, I think she is grossly underestimating them. Some people might be, the majority wont be.
May 10, 20223 yr 12 minutes ago, Gannan said: I asked this in the other thread, but this is the better place for it. What are the chances of "Death penalty for women who get an abortion" is part of the 2024 gop platform?" My wife thinks the republicans aren't crazy enough to do this, I think she is grossly underestimating them. I think if your political opinions start to resemble jsdarkstar's, you should probably breathe into a paper bag a few times and reassess.
May 10, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, Gannan said: I asked this in the other thread, but this is the better place for it. What are the chances of "Death penalty for women who get an abortion" is part of the 2024 gop platform?" My wife thinks the republicans aren't crazy enough to do this, I think she is grossly underestimating them. It's pretty clear anything and everything is on the table for the right. Louisiana has a bill clarifying abortion as homicide, Mississippi's Gov won't rule out banning contraception. The problem is the closer you get to the local level in red districts, the crazier things get and the further they have to push the envelope to stand out, and now that it's back to the states, you'll have a lot of one-upping in the Republican primaries. So pretty much anything you can think of, no matter how insane, is going to have its moment in at least one of the red states.
May 10, 20223 yr Quote Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, one of just two nominally pro-choice Republicans left in the Senate, called the cops on Saturday night over a pro-abortion rights message written in chalk in front of her house in Bangor. According to Bangor Daily News, officers responded to a call at 9:20 pm on Saturday after the message "Susie, please, Mainers want WHPA —–> vote yes, clean up your mess" appeared on a public sidewalk on West Broadway street. "WHPA" is a reference to the Women's Health Protection Act, a bill that would codify the right to an abortion afforded by Roe v. Wade into federal law. Senate Democrats have teed up a vote on Wednesday on the bill — which was passed by the House in September — in the wake of the leak of a draft Supreme Court opinion overturning Roe. "The message was not overtly threatening," Wade Betters, a spokesperson for the Bangor Police Department, told the outlet, which also reported that the message was no longer visible by Monday afternoon. she was concerned. but hopefully the perpetrator has learned their lesson.
May 10, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Kz! said: I think if your political opinions start to resemble jsdarkstar's, you should probably breathe into a paper bag a few times and reassess. It's already being proposed in Louisiana https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/politics/louisiana-hb-813-abortion-murder-fertilization/289-26ef324a-28a4-4391-9bd5-c615e61676f7 Quote BATON ROUGE, La. — Louisiana lawmakers have advanced a bill that would allow women who terminate their pregnancies to be charge with murder. House Bill 813, the "Abolition of Abortion in Louisiana Act of 2022," would redefine a "person" as any individual human being from the moment of fertilization, which would extend all homicide laws to the unborn.
May 10, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: We went over this already. He didn't send the FBI. He directed them to set up meetings with state and local law enforcement groups to discuss the issue. And you’re lying about it again, because the FBI was interviewing, intimidating, parents at school board meetings. It went far beyond meetings with officials, but don’t start telling the truth now.
May 10, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Gannan said: Quote BATON ROUGE, La. — Louisiana lawmakers have advanced a bill that would allow women who terminate their pregnancies to be charge with murder. House Bill 813, the "Abolition of Abortion in Louisiana Act of 2022," would redefine a "person" as any individual human being from the moment of fertilization, which would extend all homicide laws to the unborn. I'd like to see how they enforce against use of abortion pills.
May 10, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Procus said: I'd like to see how they enforce against use of abortion pills. The right loves unenforceable laws. In NC when I lived there we were somehow supposed to make sure ladies didn't have a schlong before using the restroom.
May 10, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Gannan said: The right loves unenforceable laws. In NC when I lived there we were somehow supposed to make sure ladies didn't have a schlong before using the restroom. That one seems pretty easy, and it would give immigrants from Australia a job
May 10, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, The_Omega said: And you’re lying about it again, because the FBI was interviewing, intimidating, parents at school board meetings. It went far beyond meetings with officials, but don’t start telling the truth now. You can never complain about the left going crazy after a claim like this. Parents were threatening school board members on "both sides" of the mask issue a year ago. One of our school board directors resigned because of death threats. If a democrat is in office all you see is them using the law enforcement against right wing citizens. It's hilarious to see the about face. Garland has been getting way for flack from the left for not being more aggressive in acting on the findings of the Jan 6 committee and all you can do is pretend he's siccing the FBI on innocent parents without any evidence. Yeah there was some bat-ish crazy mom who claimed feds in unmarked vehicles were at her school board meeting. She posts a picture of ... a marked police cruiser and a Mercedes. Right wing media runs with the narrative without any attempt to qualify the claim and boom, Omega can play the right wing victim card. This is the insane level of projection that is happening on the right now. It's absurd. Facts matter.
May 10, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, Gannan said: The right loves unenforceable laws. In NC when I lived there we were somehow supposed to make sure ladies didn't have a schlong before using the restroom. Did you get good at figuring that out?
May 10, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, The_Omega said: And you’re lying about it again, because the FBI was interviewing, intimidating, parents at school board meetings. It went far beyond meetings with officials, but don’t start telling the truth now. I'm not lying about anything, that's what's been reported. Quote Justice Department Addresses Violent Threats Against School Officials and Teachers Citing an increase in harassment, intimidation and threats of violence against school board members, teachers and workers in our nation’s public schools, today Attorney General Merrick B. Garland directed the FBI and U.S. Attorneys’ Offices to meet in the next 30 days with federal, state, Tribal, territorial and local law enforcement leaders to discuss strategies for addressing this disturbing trend. These sessions will open dedicated lines of communication for threat reporting, assessment and response by law enforcement. "Threats against public servants are not only illegal, they run counter to our nation’s core values,” wrote Attorney General Garland. "Those who dedicate their time and energy to ensuring that our children receive a proper education in a safe environment deserve to be able to do their work without fear for their safety.” According to the Attorney General’s memorandum, the Justice Department will launch a series of additional efforts in the coming days designed to address the rise in criminal conduct directed toward school personnel. Those efforts are expected to include the creation of a task force, consisting of representatives from the department’s Criminal Division, National Security Division, Civil Rights Division, the Executive Office for U.S. Attorneys, the FBI, the Community Relations Service and the Office of Justice Programs, to determine how federal enforcement tools can be used to prosecute these crimes, and ways to assist state, Tribal, territorial and local law enforcement where threats of violence may not constitute federal crimes. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-addresses-violent-threats-against-school-officials-and-teachers Quote (CNN)The FBI is working to assess the number of threats made against school board members and teachers, using a tracking tool that it says will help implement a directive from Attorney General Merrick Garland that has come under criticism from Republicans. An internal memo to the FBI's counterterrorism and criminal investigators says the bureau is using a "threat tag" system that will help gauge how much of a problem the threats pose around the country. The FBI memo, released by Republican critics, was a follow up to Garland's October memo that directed federal officials to team up with local law enforcement to come up with a game plan on how to handle threats made against members of school boards and educators. Rep. Jim Jordan, a Republican from Ohio, said the internal FBI document, describing the use of what the bureau calls a "threat tag" labeled "EDUOFFICIAL," adds to his view that the Garland is using the FBI to improperly target parents who speak out at school board meetings. The FBI issued a statement saying that its focus is on violence and threats of violence, and that its Criminal Investigative Division and Counterterrorism Division share responsibility for evaluating the problem. "Before either division can open an investigation there must be information indicating the potential use of force or violence and a potential violation of federal law" hence the use of a threat tag, the bureau said. "A tag is merely a statistical tool to track information for review and reporting. The creation of a threat tag in no way changes the long-standing requirements for opening an investigation, nor does it represent a shift in how the FBI prioritizes threats The FBI has used tags to track everything from drug trafficking to human trafficking." Jordan, the ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to Garland on Tuesday accusing him of being disingenuous during his testimony on Capitol Hill last month. Jordan, along with other Republicans, grilled Garland during two separate hearings about the usage of federal resources to create a "snitch line on parents" who are anti-mask advocates or against students in kindergarten through 12th grade from learning about critical race theory. In the three-page letter, Jordan said that the details in the FBI email "calls into question the accuracy and completeness" of Garland's testimony about whether counterterrorism tools would be used on behalf of the National School Boards Association (NSBA), which Jordan called a "left-wing special interest group against concerned parents." The NSBA wrote a letter to the Biden administration on September 29 asking for help to handle ongoing threats towards educators during school board meetings. Republicans raised eyebrows at the swiftness Garland made to draw up the memo within five days after the NSBA's request. Jordan went on to offer Garland the opportunity to amend his statements and reiterated requests for a document dump related to the creation of the October school boards memo "to investigate the matter further." Justice Department spokesman Anthony Coley declined to comment. The FBI said its internal memo doesn't contemplate investigating parents for first amendment protected activities. "The Attorney General's memorandum simply underscores the FBI's ongoing efforts to assist state, local, and federal partners to address threats of violence, regardless of the motivation," the bureau statement said. "The FBI has never been in the business of investigating parents who speak out or policing speech at school board meetings, and we are not going to start now." https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/fbi-threats-schools/index.html Never thought I'd be arguing with Republicans about whether law enforcement should be taking threats of violence to public servants seriously. Really, what it comes down to is the object of the threats: Since the targets are school officials, you just don't care about them and think that their safety isn't worthy of police scrutiny. But of course, despicable Trumpcucks like Gym Jordan and their media lackeys area always out there, distorting reality for people wanting to be riled up.
May 10, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, DrPhilly said: Did you get good at figuring that out? No but your mom did!
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