June 24, 20223 yr Just now, mr_hunt said: it's a lot more difficult to live comfortably on a single income than it was "back in the old days". add to that the high divorce rates and high number of single moms & you're going to have a lot of mothers needing to work in order to survive. The latter is why I do support some action for child care, as well as free contraceptives, I do agree with Vikas, though that we have to be careful not to incentivize having children for single mothers.
June 24, 20223 yr Some states have trigger laws in place that are beyond stupid and will have significant negative externalities (like making IVF illegal, not allowing for abortion in the case of rape or incest). Will be interesting to see if there's a political shift in those states as a result of their decision.
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: I don’t completely blame her. Full time parenting is HARD. I don’t get breaks or the ability to sit in front of my computer anymore and surf the web or post online and be social like I used to. My mistakes or lack of experience affect an actual human being. What I do appreciate is that it’s no longer seen as unmanly for dads to participate or pitch in at home. Because if paco didn’t, I would be running screaming back to work and what I previously believed was a "stressful” career. Not going to lie, when its time for baby girls nap AND I have a break in meetings, I volunteer to do that every time. I get a few moments in the dark rocking her, enjoying the peace and quiet before I have to go back to work and fight the urge to blow my brains out.
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: I don’t completely blame her. Full time parenting is HARD. I don’t get breaks or the ability to sit in front of my computer anymore and surf the web or post online and be social like I used to. My mistakes or lack of experience affect an actual human being. What I do appreciate is that it’s no longer seen as unmanly for dads to participate or pitch in at home. Because if paco didn’t, I would be running screaming back to work and what I previously believed was a "stressful” career. It is SO hard. Much respect to you. I would go insane. And yeah, she does so much so I do my best to be involved. I see so many fathers ignore their kids and constantly do "guy's night". Based on what I've seen I think the problem with society is fathers aren't expected to do much when it comes to raising their children.
June 24, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: it's a lot more difficult to live comfortably on a single income than it was "back in the old days". add to that the high divorce rates and high number of single moms & you're going to have a lot of mothers needing to work in order to survive. and keep in mind we're discussing this in a thread about roe v wade being overturned which will most likely lead to more single moms who can't really afford to live. #selfquote
June 24, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Ipiggles said: NOt sure how "working Parents" are home with a child, I meant, when one person stays home, does not work and helps to actually raise the child. Again, just because you're working doesn't mean you aren't raising the child. That's a stupid mentality considering once they hit 5 they are off to school for 8-10 hours a day anyway. By that logic the "raising" for stay at home parents stops at 5.
June 24, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, EaglesRocker97 said: True colors, guys. This is what it's all about: Get back in the kitchen. Yeah ladies, you heard the man!
June 24, 20223 yr Author Just now, paco said: Yeah ladies, you heard the man! Don't take it from me, just read through the comments.
June 24, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said: Some states have trigger laws in place that are beyond stupid and will have significant negative externalities (like making IVF illegal, not allowing for abortion in the case of rape or incest). Will be interesting to see if there's a political shift in those states as a result of their decision. Wait.... how will banning abortions make THAT illegal. It's literally the opposite procedure.
June 24, 20223 yr Just now, paco said: Yeah ladies, you heard the man! Well tomorrow is Sammich Saturday after all...just sayin'
June 24, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Again, just because you're working doesn't mean you aren't raising the child. That's a stupid mentality considering once they hit 5 they are off to school for 8-10 hours a day anyway. By that logic the "raising" for stay at home parents stops at 5. And the glorified babysitters take over, right?
June 24, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, mr_hunt said: and keep in mind we're discussing this in a thread about roe v wade being overturned which will most likely lead to more single moms who can't really afford to live. #selfquote This gets into a bigger discussion that I am not able to fully engage in right now - being in the kitchen making paco a sandwich and caring for baby girl and all… but does go back to focus on family and family values. People want a world without judgement or standards and want to have it all and be able to do it all in the process - and that’s never going to be a successful formula. The solution from the other side is, in part, abortion. But it’s never going to be acceptable to those who believe in the sanctity of life. And round and round we go.
June 24, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, paco said: And the glorified babysitters take over, right? Right. Regardless of what you did the first 5 years they will still groom your child.
June 24, 20223 yr Just now, Paul852 said: Right. Regardless of what you did the first 5 years they will still groom your child. folks could homeschool...and homeschooled kids hardly ever wind up being weirdos.
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: This gets into a bigger discussion that I am not able to fully engage in right now - being in the kitchen making paco a sandwich and caring for baby girl and all… but does go back to focus on family and family values. People want a world without judgement or standards and want to have it all and be able to do it all in the process - and that’s never going to be a successful formula. The solution from the other side is, in part, abortion. But it’s never going to be acceptable to those who believe in the sanctity of life. And round and round we go. I think I've made my opinion pretty well known here but I don't think abortion is ever the answer. However, there are a lot of problems that exist right now when it comes to raising children.
June 24, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, binkybink77 said: This gets into a bigger discussion that I am not able to fully engage in right now - being in the kitchen making paco a sandwich and caring for baby girl and all… but does go back to focus on family and family values. People want a world without judgement or standards and want to have it all and be able to do it all in the process - and that’s never going to be a successful formula. The solution from the other side is, in part, abortion. But it’s never going to be acceptable to those who believe in the sanctity of life. And round and round we go. round and round is right. certainly a solid family unit is the best way to raise children...but folks can't force others to live the way they want them to live...are we heading back to the days people staying in unhappy (sometimes abusive) marriages because of the stigma attached to divorce? or forcing lgbtq people back into the closet & pretending they don't exist? there's no answer that i can see.
June 24, 20223 yr I like how now that abortion is banned we’ve moved on to discussing whether or not women belong in the workplace
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, mr_hunt said: round and round is right. certainly a solid family unit is the best way to raise children...but folks can't force others to live the way they want them to live...are we heading back to the days people staying in unhappy (sometimes abusive) marriages because of the stigma attached to divorce? or forcing lgbtq people back into the closet & pretending they don't exist? there's no answer than i can see. Right. Life isn't as simple as people make it out to be. It'd be perfect if everyone stayed together but it's just not realistic.
June 24, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said: Women should have the right to choose what they do with their bodies. Let the rioting begin. So do you support a women's right to riot?
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Dave Moss said: I like how now that abortion is banned we’ve moved on to discussing whether or not women belong in the workplace yeah...it's kind of backwards, isn't it?
June 24, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, PoconoDon said: Well tomorrow is Sammich Saturday after all...just sayin' Slider Sunday Manwhich Monday Taco Tuesday Wrap Wednesday Torta Thursday French Dip Friday Shawarma Saturday Consulted!
June 24, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, paco said: Wait.... how will banning abortions make THAT illegal. It's literally the opposite procedure. Some of the states with the more extreme trigger laws (I’ll have to check again which ones, maybe Georgia? Bama? Missouri? Again I’ll have to check) will now define life as beginning at conception and have language making it illegal to do anything that decreases or obstructs fertilization and further development of the embryo. During IVF, if it is successful, multiple eggs are fertilized. So that’s now a problem as it will now be illegal to NOT use every fertilized egg. These laws will also make Plan B illegal.
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