7 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Looking forward to Hurts being the QB here for a very long time with those core Howie is putting together. 

1 minute ago, blindside said:

That clearly isn’t their plan though. They’re surrounding Hurts with friends and people he’s played with. They’re truly all in. I just don’t see that going well with AJ Brown.. "Hey, come here and play with your friend.. actually he sucks. But y’all can sit next to each other on the bench when the defense is on the field!”

 

I honestly think, unless they know something we don’t, that it was a huge mistake. I love Brown as a player, but getting emotions invoked with how Hurts played in the playoffs last year seems like playing with fire. Some serious boom or bust potential 

Yeah of course. It's not what I think they would do, but it's exactly what I would do. Hurts is super limited, and I see no point in going down a path when I can already see it's a dead end.

6 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Looking forward to Hurts being the QB here for a very long time with those core Howie is putting together. 

It'd be really nice to see them use the two first round picks next year on on positions other than QB. 

I'm not a believer in Jalen Hurts but man if his passing game can catch up to his running, we'd really have something nice.

6 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

It'd be really nice to see them use the two first round picks next year on on positions other than QB. 

I'm not a believer in Jalen Hurts but man if his passing game can catch up to his running, we'd really have something nice.

Good news is next years qb class is stacked. We will be hearing about it all year

If Hurts can play at even a Jimmy G/Kirk Cousins level, we can win a couple playoff games.

The talent is there on both sides, especially at the lines, heck even the LBs don't suck lol.

3 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

If Hurts can play at even a Jimmy G/Kirk Cousins level, we can win a couple playoff games.

The talent is there on both sides, especially at the lines, heck even the LBs don't suck lol.

Cousins had 4200 passing yards, 33 TD's and 7 int's.  

Jimmy G's 3800 yards, 20 TD's and 12 int's is more likely for Hurts.

14 minutes ago, ShutDownDB said:

It'd be really nice to see them use the two first round picks next year on on positions other than QB. 

I'm not a believer in Jalen Hurts but man if his passing game can catch up to his running, we'd really have something nice.

Ideally would love to use those picks elsewhere and build up the roster. My belief in hurts’ ceiling (ask ace nova we talked about this last offseason) was/is always a top 15 QB likely range 12-15. The issue is if he ever gets there and if that’s even good enough to be able to win a SB (i don’t think it is good enough cause i think you’ll run into a team equal to yours with the better Qb). Which so far through two years I think as a passer you can’t put him inside that category because he’s not nearly good enough.

 knowing what Lurie and howie want is a guy who can carry the team if everything else around him isn’t working that day. Why they went to go get Carson. Unfortunately didn’t workout. you can do so much and rely on your legs until teams take that away from you and force you to throw or you get hurt like happened last year and you aren’t able to run as much. That’s where I think this comes down too. If he cannot become a good passer then the Eagles are going to make a move for a quarterback next year with how they set up the roster and assets. 

i am hoping he can be that guy. I don’t root against him. I’m just realistic with what I’ve seen so far to say i don’t think his ability as a passer inspires to think he is good enough. I’m hoping this year he proves that wrong. 

7 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah of course. It's not what I think they would do, but it's exactly what I would do. Hurts is super limited, and I see no point in going down a path when I can already see it's a dead end.

Agreed. I actually would rather roll with Minshew as the starter and if Strong can do something then I'd see what he can do against this schedule

Hurts needs to do such a leap in performance to convince me that he's the future and I just don't think that's even possible. So why even do it? People say give him a chance but not every player even gets a chance so why should Hurts? A RB can get all of those rushing yards and TDs that Hurts gets when running but only the QB is throwing the ball

2 hours ago, RLC said:

Need to see the actual contract, but $10M is a lot.

He was easily getting 10 mil. The giants made that move due to cap issues. He's pretty good, much better than Nelson. 

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Tough film room with Stoutland, according to Mailata:

"It doesn’t matter what I placed on PFF last year if I’m not hitting the right assignments and plays. Which I know, because we watch it here with Stout (offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland), and Stout would never let me forget, even plays from my rookie year."

❤️

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Hurts needs to do such a leap in performance to convince me that he's the future and I just don't think that's even possible. So why even do it?

Because the team doesn't make decisions based on the opinions of random fans?

One last thing about all of the young CB on the roster.  They kept 8-9 of them on the active roster all season.  That in itself is a big investment.  To not give them a chance when they were using a roster spot that could have gone to another position to develop would just be bad roster management IMO.

Just now, jsb235 said:

Because the team doesn't make decisions based on the opinions of random fans?

It's pretty obvious to nonbiased fans that Hurts is limited as a passer

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

If you're looking for non-fiction, I would recommend A Hero of Two Worlds by Mike Duncan. It's a biography of the Marquis de Lafayette.  Provides an interesting view of both the American and French Revolutions.  Duncan is a podcaster and not a historian.  It's well researched but easy reading.  Another great book is Ron Chernow's biography of Grant.  That is a little dense but it goes into some interesting detail about Grant's rise through the Army during the Civil War.  It really serves to put to bed the myth that Grant wasn't the same type of tactician that Lee was.  I usually go for lighter fiction like Michael Connelly's books (Bosch detective series and the Lincoln Lawyer). 

Agree. 

Beyond Grant's excellence in tactics, his command of strategy was far greater than Lee's. Lee was a regional commander, whereas Grant grasped the full picture.

In fairness to Lee, he had to deal with Jefferson Davis, while Grant had Abraham Lincoln.

1 hour ago, blindside said:

It sucks that the only real question mark on the roster (besides safety, arguably), we can’t talk about for like 4 more months. 
 

What’s everyone’s favorite brand of toilet paper? 

 

2 hours ago, austinfan said:

Not sure, the source was from 1931, so there's some questions, and that site is a bit dubious.

He could have said it, but he didn't say it to Johnny Ringo.

His dental tools are on display at the University of Pennsylvania Dental School.

15 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Agreed. I actually would rather roll with Minshew as the starter and if Strong can do something then I'd see what he can do against this schedule

Hurts needs to do such a leap in performance to convince me that he's the future and I just don't think that's even possible. So why even do it? People say give him a chance but not every player even gets a chance so why should Hurts? A RB can get all of those rushing yards and TDs that Hurts gets when running but only the QB is throwing the ball

It’s not so much about "he gets a chance”. It’s about them drafting him in the second round, seeing a good athlete who is a good leader, and trying to squeeze every drop of juice out of that pick, before having to use more picks to move on from him. 
 

The bigger question for me is, what are they gonna do if they have to move on? Keep the guy they "committed to” as a backup? Yeesh

2 hours ago, RLC said:

Reminder: we're a good franchise.

Reminder half of what players say is BS

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

It's pretty obvious to nonbiased fans that Hurts is limited as a passer

I guess I am not understanding your definition of "nonbiased."

You refuse to acknowledge any contributions that Hurts' running ability makes to the success of the offense because for some reason you don't think that should be part of the equation.

And then you accuse others of having biased opinions simply because they don't share your bias.

It's very confusing.

1 minute ago, greend said:

Reminder half of what players say is BS

Maybe. His actions, taking an under market deal over other supposed contenders, says otherwise.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

Reminder half of what players say is BS

Apparently only the half you don't agree with.

Dickerson is talking to the media.  I really like the personalities the line has.  A bunch of characters.  

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Maybe. His actions, taking an under market deal over other supposed contenders, says otherwise.

Maybe, but have you seen those other deals?

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Now he gets all year to develop and learn

And play in nickel and dime packages.

3 minutes ago, blindside said:

It’s not so much about "he gets a chance”. It’s about them drafting him in the second round, seeing a good athlete who is a good leader, and trying to squeeze every drop of juice out of that pick, before having to use more picks to move on from him. 
 

The bigger question for me is, what are they gonna do if they have to move on? Keep the guy they "committed to” as a backup? Yeesh

If he's such a leader and team player then he wont complain about being the backup 🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, jsb235 said:

I guess I am not understanding your definition of "nonbiased."

You refuse to acknowledge any contributions that Hurts' running ability makes to the success of the offense because for some reason you don't think that should be part of the equation.

And then you accuse others of having unbiased opinions simply because they don't share your bias.

It's very confusing.

A QB that can run is a positive but they have to be able to throw the ball first