23 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

It makes no sense to undermine your starting QB with a move like that. How many times do we need to do that? Maybe that's the part of football that Howie doesn't understand. Wentz having to reclaim the starting spot after Foles won the SB was always going to be a difficult thing to do. Then you draft Hurts. Why the hell would you put that kind of dynamic on Hurts now? So half the locker room wants Foles to start?

People said Wentz needed to suck it up when it happened

Foles would make the QB room better (which is likely the answer Howie would give if they did sign Foles)

1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Yeah, it's not about scaring Hurts. It's about dividing the locker room. The move just doesn't make any sense. Nevermind that Foles isn't even that good of a player. It's all splash.

Who in that lockerroom was even on the team with Foles? There's only like 5 players left from the last team he was on with the Eagles. 

I really think the Eagles showed interest out of respect for one of the most beloved athletes in the history of the city, who happened to be looking for a job.  

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

Maybe not as sold on Hurts as everyone is being lead to believe

 

 

Define "involved".

A phone call?  A job reference?

3 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Who in that lockerroom was even on the team with Foles? There's only like 5 players left from the last team he was on with the Eagles. 

By my count there's 14

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

Howie has been known to get emotional and extend players. He's also been known to extend players on potential rather than what they've done

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

Are you suggesting that we would be sellers this season?

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

I'd let Sanders play out his deal and trade Hargrave and Seumalo. Unless Seumalo would take a ridiculously team-friendly contract.

Just now, Connecticut Eagle said:

Are you suggesting that we would be sellers this season?

Not at all but in reference to what I said in the same sentence.  The Eagles have invested heavily the last two drafts at DT and most likely will again next year as they always do.  But if a player who is going to be 30, is a rotational player and in need of a new contract can bring back draft capital or a player at another need position then I'm all for it.

Hargrave is good enough to give him a three-year deal or something like that. 

Sanders and Seumalo are either brought back on very friendly deals, or they can both walk.  Seumalo's getting lost in the numbers and Sanders lost me last season.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Not at all but in reference to what I said in the same sentence.  The Eagles have invested heavily the last two drafts at DT and most likely will again next year as they always do.  But if a player who is going to be 30, is a rotational player and in need of a new contract can bring back draft capital or a player at another need position then I'm all for it.

I see your point, but current expectations suggest that we'd want to keep him around for a playoff run.  Then let him walk and get worked into the comp pick formula.

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

I'm in the same line of thinking, but a different reason for Hargrave. I think we need to see how this season plays out with Hargrave and this defensive transition. He was in a 3-4 with Pitt and then moved to a 4-3 with the Eagles and his numbers were better. If the Eagles are moving to a more 3-4 base, I would be hesitant to extend him. Plus if Williams performs at a high level, there will be no need to extend him since he would at least be the 3rd DT/NT.

5 minutes ago, hukdonfoniks said:

Hargrave is good enough to give him a three-year deal or something like that. 

Sanders and Seumalo are either brought back on very friendly deals, or they can both walk.  Seumalo's getting lost in the numbers and Sanders lost me last season.

Is he though?  Maybe how they've handled Fletcher Cox has made he really hesitant but I just don't think he's worth the money.  He's not.  He started off red hot last year but then over the last 9 games he had 14 tackles, 1.5 sacks and 2 TFL.

I think Hargrave is one of, if not the most overrated Eagle.  

39 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

The Eagles having interest in Foles reaps of Howie getting a little too excited and cocky. He made a couple splash moves, got Bradyberry, and now he's trying to bring Foles back. Chill, Howie. This is how you start making poor decisions. Don't get too arrogant.

reeks ?

I've come to the conclusion that Carson Strong is the new Joe Ostman. My expectation is that he'll have a similar level of success in the NFL.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Jeremy, the Eagles drafted Carson Strong? ESPN needs you to return whatever compensation they provide...

20 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Define "involved".

A phone call?  A job reference?

They monitored. 

46 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Hubris has been his problem.  

6 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I've come to the conclusion that Carson Strong is the new Joe Ostman. My expectation is that he'll have a similar level of success in the NFL.

I've come to the conclusion that he's the new Tom Brady,  my expectation is that he'll have a similar level of success in the NFL.

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Dave Zangaro just listed his top extension candidates.  What a gross list.

Hargrave- Please tell me they learned their lesson from Cox.  Extending a 30 year old DT when you just used 5 draft picks over the last 2 drafts to bring in Milton Williams and Jordan Davis, plus adding Noah Ellis as an UDFA.  Hargrave should be a trade deadline candidate, not extended.

Sanders- If Sanders comes back on a very very team friendly RB salary then I'd be OK, provided they upgrade RB next year.  This RB group is so uninspiring. 

Seumalo- He's been an Eagle for 6 years.  He's started the following number of games.  2, 4, 9, 16, 9, 3.  Over the last 2 years, he's played in 12 out of 33 games.  Why anyone would want to extend him is beyond me.  

I get that extensions will help the current cap but extending underperforming players is a recipe for a bad team.

Yup.  Well, I guess that's one reason they were able to kick some cap can down the road and add AJ Brown's contract.  With Mailata and Sweat extended, we are in that (enviable?) position of all those bad drafts coming to the end of their rookie deals.  Not many players they need to extend.

Hargrave: they better not give him big money.  He's a perfect trade deadline candidate, as you said.  What else can they possibly dump into the DT position?  

Sanders: Ride him into the ground this year, get what you can, pump up his value, and hope he signs a big contract elsewhere for a decent comp pick.  He's unreliable, a liability on third down with his lack of contribution in the passing game, and doesn't have a nose for the end zone.  

Seumalo: best player on this list.  We've got 3 LG/C's on the roster in Dickerson, Jurgens, and Seumalo...with Kelce keeping the seat warm at C and no RG.  Seumalo, with his experience, could probably be the best RG on this team, although no one mentions his name there.

8 minutes ago, Next_Up said:

Jeremy, the Eagles drafted Carson Strong? ESPN needs you to return whatever compensation they provide...

Yea not sure how he's going to be able to look at himself in the mirror after a major blunder like that

19 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I see your point, but current expectations suggest that we'd want to keep him around for a playoff run.  Then let him walk and get worked into the comp pick formula.

I see what you did there.