17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That was the first report. 

 

I’m still in shock by this. I couldn’t imagine being a parent and having to fear sending my kid to school to learn. Like F this 18 year old who did it. 

23 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Another 14 children killed in a school shooting. Really tired of reading this over and over again.

Yup.  It is unsettling.  The day after I decided to change my major to education is when the Columbine shooting took place.  Horrific news.  

 

Gotta make the most of every day.  Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m still in shock by this. I couldn’t imagine being a parent and having to fear sending my kid to school to learn. Like F this 18 year old who did it. 

My wife's an elementary school teacher, and it's scary enough her going everyday. Nothing like this has happened but even the one off incidents are bad enough. 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

My wife's an elementary school teacher, and it's scary enough her going everyday. Nothing like this has happened but even the one off incidents are bad enough. 

I hear ya.  My wife is an elementary school librarian.  I work in a high school.  My son is in the high school now.  I've confronted this many times over the years, every time this hits the news, there's a shock wave that runs through my body.  Lots of emotions right now... nothing really to say.  Tomorrow, I will get up and go to work again.  My wife will get up and go to work as well.  And my son, he will wake up and take the Keystone Biology test.  

 

And DCs answer is , thoughts and prayers , freaking disgrace .

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

And DCs answer is , thoughts and prayers , freaking disgrace .

What is your answer?

19 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Who has the most to prove in 2022 with the talent around them. Sirianni, Gannon, or Hurts.

Sirianni is kind of an under the radar one. It’s widely accepted he had a good year in 2021, and I guess he did, but I still have no idea how good of a coach the dude is. They basically ran the ball down the throats of bad teams and were terrible against teams above .500. I have no idea how to evaluate that coaching job, honestly. I was hoping for at least one game where they came in as heavy underdogs and he came in there and out coached the better team just one time and it didn’t happen.

As for the question, I’m going to Gannon. Main reason: the defense had the biggest turnover and Gannon had way more hype than Hurts did. When the Eagles hired Gannon don’t forget he was labeled by some as this genius DC everyone was gushing over him and he was as ordinary as it gets. Now all the Gannon stans in the media are like "now he has all the pieces he can run his real defense!” Ok, then it better be impressive. If we see bums like Davis Mills completing 75% passes on this defense all year, then this dude is a fraud.

It's easily hurts for me. Hard to judge sirianni because hurts is the QB, you can have a great team but if your QB would rather play RB you'll never win anything.

There are no excuses for hurts this year. No longer a "rookie", has a stud receiver, solid line. There is no reason he should not thrive this season aside from him being a bad QB. 

Gannon is a good choice also though

10 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What is your answer?

Ban on a wide array of guns , much tougher background checks  , arming teachers  , these are just for starters .

I was in high school in the 80s , no doors were ever locked during school , never even heard about guns , let alone having school shooting …. You have to aske yourself , what has changed over the years .

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What is your answer?

I'm not sure anyone has the right answer.  To Iggles point, the political part of it is eye rolling.  Whoever is in power during a mass shooting gets torn to bits for their "thoughts and prayers" comments.  

I haven't read anything about this yet but to me it's clear the kid had issues.  I'm not a don't take my guns guy, never even touched a gun, but I think the people who commit these heinous crimes are going to find a way to get their weapon of choice, not matter the laws in place.  

I think we have a lot of lost souls in this country who need help.  How do we help them so they don't reach this level?   

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I'm not sure anyone has the right answer.  To Iggles point, the political part of it is eye rolling.  Whoever is in power during a mass shooting gets torn to bits for their "thoughts and prayers" comments.  

I haven't read anything about this yet but to me it's clear the kid had issues.  I'm not a don't take my guns guy, never even touched a gun, but I think the people who commit these heinous crimes are going to find a way to get their weapon of choice, not matter the laws in place.  

I think we have a lot of lost souls in this country who need help.  How do we help them so they don't reach this level?   

It starts at home 

8 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Ban on a wide array of guns , much tougher background checks  , arming teachers  , these are just for starters .

I was in high school in the 80s , no doors were ever locked during school , never even heard about guns , let alone having school shooting …. You have to aske yourself , what has changed over the years .

The lack of respect for human life.

1 minute ago, Original Sin said:

It starts at home 

agree 100%.  But what if there is no support at home?  Why did this guy target his grandmother as well as all of those poor kids and teacher?  Something seriously wrong.  

12 minutes ago, devpool said:

It's easily hurts for me. Hard to judge sirianni because hurts is the QB, you can have a great team but if your QB would rather play RB you'll never win anything.

There are no excuses for hurts this year. No longer a "rookie", has a stud receiver, solid line. There is no reason he should not thrive this season aside from him being a bad QB. 

Gannon is a good choice also though

They just had some reporter, Kempski I think on 97.5, and of course he brought up the Hurts has not had the same system two years in a row since high school nonsense.

This is the NFL, there is coaching turnover, systems adapted.  Brady changed teams and won a Super Bowl, Stafford changed teams and won a Super Bowl.

NFL QB's are expected to learn the offense and process it, you know how to play football, just need to learn a playbook.  If you can not learn it and implement it the first year,  you are not able to be a successful NFL QB.

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

The lack of respect for human life.

lack of respect for human life, and having a numb feeling towards death and murder.  So many factors go in to that.  I truly think video games play a role.  To endlessly kill and learn how to in front of a TV for hours on end can take it's tole on the wrong person.  The internet is another aid.  It takes the human emotion away from conversations.  People can be faceless trolls, talk as much crap as they want and face zero consequences.  

I grew up in the country where the majority of kids had rifles in their trucks in the school parking lot.  No one thought twice about it.  Something has changed for sure.

I believe technology is part of the problem , internet , cable tv etc

kids spend more time on them than they do with their family , lots of bad stuff on there for them to see . Family bonds not what they were years ago

6 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They just had some reporter, Kempski I think on 97.5, and of course he brought up the Hurts has not had the same system two years in a row since high school nonsense.

This is the NFL, there is coaching turnover, systems adapted.  Brady changed teams and won a Super Bowl, Stafford changed teams and won a Super Bowl.

NFL QB's are expected to learn the offense and process it, you know how to play football, just need to learn a playbook.  If you can not learn it and implement it the first year,  you are not able to be a successful NFL QB.

But Stafford was in his 13th rookie season and Brady in his 21st rookie season. Hurts is only going into his 3rd rookie season. 
 

 

8 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They just had some reporter, Kempski I think on 97.5, and of course he brought up the Hurts has not had the same system two years in a row since high school nonsense.

This is the NFL, there is coaching turnover, systems adapted.  Brady changed teams and won a Super Bowl, Stafford changed teams and won a Super Bowl.

NFL QB's are expected to learn the offense and process it, you know how to play football, just need to learn a playbook.  If you can not learn it and implement it the first year,  you are not able to be a successful NFL QB.

The good old Sam Bradford excuse

Don’t think this is the place for this topic. 

15 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

It starts at home 

Which is why looking to dc for answers is moronic

Payne will be traded , heck of a player

Just now, Original Sin said:

Payne will be traded , heck of a player

Geez.  Does Howie have any trade magic left?

25 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Ban on a wide array of guns , much tougher background checks  , arming teachers  , these are just for starters .

I was in high school in the 80s , no doors were ever locked during school , never even heard about guns , let alone having school shooting …. You have to aske yourself , what has changed over the years .

Same, I grew up in a small town so it was nothing for someone to be cleaning a hunting rifle or shotgun in the parking lot at lunch. Then the curtain fell and a guy got suspended for cleaning the barrel of his hunting rifle. He only had the barrel with him.

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

They just had some reporter, Kempski I think on 97.5, and of course he brought up the Hurts has not had the same system two years in a row since high school nonsense.

This is the NFL, there is coaching turnover, systems adapted.  Brady changed teams and won a Super Bowl, Stafford changed teams and won a Super Bowl.

NFL QB's are expected to learn the offense and process it, you know how to play football, just need to learn a playbook.  If you can not learn it and implement it the first year,  you are not able to be a successful NFL QB.

When he had Daboll, Hurts and him apparently got along really well at Alabama, but not well enough for Daboll to keep his eyes off Tua.   Daboll wanted Tua starting long before Saban made the switch.   
 Also, pundits made that argument for Darnold (too many systems) but the fact remains if you have a decent O-Line and open pass catchers you fail to see, the QB would get benched by the coach he had for 2 straight seasons. 
 

Are we really not going to issue 23, 87, 25, or 86?

Too many unretired numbers just not being used...

As far as 12 goes, just officially retire it already

43 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

What is your answer?

For one, no one under at least 30 years of age should have access to a gun, any kind of gun.

Kids and young adults of today with their mental health and other issues are no where near mature enough to be trusted with a gun.