2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Jokes on you, we ARE @Moderator5

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Jokes on you, we ARE @Moderator5

Or are we @Moderator5? 

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d say sign combat waivers to fight for which stays. But you’d just be fighting yourself. So it wouldn’t solve it. 

We are settling on the board like men with a game of rock,paper, scissors.  

Why isn't Minshew the starter?

https://nflcomparisons.com/jalen-hurts-vs-gardner-minshew-comparison/

 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Or are we @Moderator5? 

We are settling on the board like men with a game of rock,paper, scissors.  

Gotta bust out the fisher price hoop! 

21 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Game changer.  Still talks too much.  
 

 

It was fun knowing you guys...

30 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Having racial bias, potentially in player comparisons, isn't the same as racism. I think Dak and Tyrod Taylor are similar to Hurts.  Dak is less so but he does have limited arm strength and issues in his throwing motion.  Racism, to the extent journalists can be racist, would be espousing thoughts that Hurts be a starting QB or is otherwise limited because of his race.  Of course your criticism begs the question. 

Who do you think are better comparisons for Hurts in terms of players currently in the League?  

 

Josh Allen is a good comparison for how raw they were as passers while being able to get by on their atheltic abiloty as rookies but have developed overtime.  

Another one of the Hurts contradictions I have noticed lately.

Paying big money to a QB handicaps you from being able to afford to build the team around the QB.

Hurts needs time to develop into an NFL passer.

So which one is it, at this rate of development, he will be on his second contract before he can win a Super Bowl.

10 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Josh Allen is a good comparison for how raw they were as passers while being able to get by on their atheltic abiloty as rookies but have developed overtime.  

A 6'5" QB with one of the best arms in the NFL is not a comp for Hurts.  You are obviously trolling.

Josh Allen has the highest ball velocity since the combine started tracking it, Hurts is slightly behind Minshew.

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/

 

 

 

 

Let this be another example of why RTK has me on ignore.  The owning over the years has been epic, and he can't take the heat.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

I hear this talking point on the radio sometimes and it makes me roll my eyes; I think most rational people know Hurts didn't carry the team anywhere.  The Eagles had much better talent than a 4-win team would indicate -- the epidemic of injuries the past 3 seasons had an impact on overall performance.

When Hurts first took the field as a starter I didn't have any issue with it as long as he wasn't holding the roster back.  In 2021 the Eagles went 9-8 with Hurts, not because of him and not in spite of him.  They went 9-8 with him.

In 2022 I think we'll see the roster has reached the point where a bottom-tier starting QB is holding the team back.  We will see how it plays out. 

I disagree with this part. The defense was obviously a big issue against good teams, there's no denying that. But the offense functioned just as well (if not better) when Minshew came in against the Jets. Now, you can certainly argue it's a small sample size, the Jets suck, etc; but Minshew put up 80% passing (which is really good, regardless of opponent), the running game was just as strong, thanks to the other pieces in place. In fact, the offense had to be revamped and changed completely to essentially compensate for Hurts. 

We've now improved the pieces around the QB, the o-line (health willing) should be improved as well with another year together. So, I agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I think Minshew starting last year probably gets us to 10 or even 11 wins last year with that schedule. We likely are still first round playoff losers, but at least there wouldn't be delusions of grandeur from some. 

 

12 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Josh Allen is a good comparison for how raw they were as passers while being able to get by on their atheltic abiloty as rookies but have developed overtime.  

Racist

Lol at comparing Allen to Hurts

Just because Allen wasn't good until he fixed some things doesn't mean the same will happen to Hurts

18 hours ago, downundermike said:

 

I honestly have no idea who are on Jets or Giants

I think we could do it but we need a better passer

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I honestly have no idea who are on Jets or Giants

Giants - Kenny Golladay, Sterling Shepard, Darius Slayton, Kadarius Toney, Wan'Dale Robinson

Jets - Elijah Moore, Corey Davis, Garrett Wilson, Braxton Berrios, Denzel Mims

18 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Another one of the Hurts contradictions I have noticed lately.

Paying big money to a QB handicaps you from being able to afford to build the team around the QB.

Hurts needs time to develop into an NFL passer.

So which one is it, at this rate of development, he will be on his second contract before he can win a Super Bowl.

No 2nd contract unless he wins a Super Bowl on his first one. 

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Giants - Kenny Golladay, Sterling Shepard, Darius Slayton, Kadarius Toney, Wan'Dale Robinson

Jets - Elijah Moore, Corey Davis, Garrett Wilson, Braxton Berrios, Denzel Mims

Aren't Giants still thinking Jones can do it?

I'll take the Jets with Wilson throwing to that bunch

1 hour ago, KDUB1510 said:

"It's tipped to Amari Cooper".  

Ed Reed and Brother score

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't think Sirianni is McVay or Shanahan.  I don't think a team needs to have some super genius schemer to win. He changed things up when he needed to and got a pretty mediocre team to the playoffs.   There have been plenty of coaches here that have looked good for one season.  I generally think the team made a mistake when they let go of Doug but I think Doug was too loyal to some mediocre coaches.  Sirianni may swing to the Ray Rhodes or Rich Kotite spectrum but he doesn't seem to be bad at organizing the team and having them prepared.  He could also look like a great coach if Hurts looks like a good QB or they get a good QB.  I disliked the hire initially.  He did OK last season.  He has higher expectations this season.  Let's see how the team does.  

Of course not.  Each of them is unique.

1 hour ago, RememberTheKoy said:

 

Josh Allen is a good comparison for how raw they were as passers while being able to get by on their atheltic abiloty as rookies but have developed overtime.  

Another reason no.  Hurts will never, ever, ever be able to do this.

 

 

1 hour ago, downundermike said:

A 6'5" QB with one of the best arms in the NFL is not a comp for Hurts.  You are obviously trolling.

Josh Allen has the highest ball velocity since the combine started tracking it, Hurts is slightly behind Minshew.

https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/

 

 

 

 

Let this be another example of why RTK has me on ignore.  The owning over the years has been epic, and he can't take the heat.

Does this mean Minshew has as good of an arm as Herbert? And both are only slightly better than Hurts?

3 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Does this mean Minshew has as good of an arm as Herbert? And both are only slightly better than Hurts?

Not as good as Herbert, but he can wind it up when he has to.  It does mean they are all better than Hurts, and always have been.

8 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Does this mean Minshew has as good of an arm as Herbert? And both are only slightly better than Hurts?

I thought you were done "flaying" the horse? 

4 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

I thought you were done "flaying" the horse? 

Is that like flogging the dolphin? Or is that only when comparing Watson to someone?

43 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Of course not.  Each of them is unique.

Don't bring your everyone is special b.s. in here Mr. Teacher man.  

1 minute ago, NCiggles said:

Don't bring your everyone is special b.s. in here Mr. Teacher man.  

Don't you start grouping people based on race, genitals, and who they sleep with.

We don’t need to compare Hurts to anyone. All that matters is how he works in the Eagles offense. Based off of last season, not great.