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16 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Hustle is out on netflix today. That is the basketball movie set in philly with Adam Sandler playing a scout who discovers a euro player. And there are tons of cameos of NBA players including 76ers like Thybulle and Tobias Harris.

the movie contacted me to put my Dr. J art print in a scene. they said it would be a bar scene shot, which pans over art prints and sports posters. dont know if it made it in or not. 

 

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9 minutes ago, pangbun said:

the movie contacted me to put my Dr. J art print in a scene. they said it would be a bar scene shot, which pans over art prints and sports posters. dont know if it made it in or not. 

 

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Cool. I will have to watch for that next time I watch the movie. 

46 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I dont understand the dunking thing either. Dudes are 6'6'+ big deal. 

I like to watch half court sets, passing, physical play. None of which happens now a days. 

If Draymond Green played in the 80s, (or played hockey) he'd get F****ed up so many times he wouldnt dare open his mouth 

Ironically Draymond has now turned himself into a prototypical 80s/90s player. Someone that just fouls hard and doesnt provide much offense.

50 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

How can practice not help though?  Reps build muscle memory.  Reps build consistency.  Reps build on field communication.  Reps build trust in your teammates.  Do all of this at OTA's and TC becomes more about install and fine tuning.

While other teams (besides the Bengals) have been conducting on field, 11v11 OTA's, the Eagles have been focusing on fundamentals.  Sorry, these are NFL players.  Fundamentals are important and can only be fine tuned but to be the focus of the off-season seems a bit silly to me.  

The NFL has already limited the on field time that teams have.  The Eagles have said F that we don't even want to use that time.  

I don't think maximizing reps 3 months before the season gets underway builds anything but injury risk.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

 

Reps always matter, especially for the young players, new players and players on the fringe.  

I am not sure I understand your point about fringe players.  I agree that more reps may change the evaluation of a player but it's not like the number of roster or ps spots change based on the number players that look good in camp.  Fringe players will get spots based in part on how they performed but I don't think the risk for not keeping a player changes.  I think the evaluations on who gets a roster spot will stay the same.  If your argument is that overall a lack of reps prevents improvement for the players, I would argue it's not like the limited reps at practice prevents a player from pacticing on his own.  If the coach wants them to run a route a certain way or use certain footwork in blocking, there are still 24 hours in a day.  

11 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

In a vacuum, you're right. But to me it's a harbinger of what's to come in TC 

Yes, I think the trade off is the decrease in the chance of a more serious injury.  I think it puts the honus on Hurts and others to work on their own.  I think there is a risk of a lack of cohesion and execution at the start of a season.  I am hoping the move to joint practices mitigates some of that risk.  

51 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

For those that say the Warriors just shoot 3's probably don't watch much of them.  They actually move around, cut, pass, etc.  It can be fun to watch.  

I think the warriors teams from 2014-2019 were much better at moving, cutting and passing. They still do what you are saying but draymond and klay aren’t nearly what they were during their heyday runs. Love klay’s game and he’s fought through a ton to just be playing now. But isn’t the same klay he was before the injuries. Maybe he gets back there in 2022-23 season but at 32 with the injuries he had, he might just never be the same consistently. He tends to do what he has in this series. He’ll be ok for 2-3 games then pop off for a game. As for draymond i thought it was interesting the warriors were supposedly so in on Simmons last offseason. I think they saw the writing on the wall that draymond might be closer to the end and they needed someone that could defend guys like a Tatum and brown. Besides draymond, the warriors don’t have that type of guy like they had back during their run in iggy and draymond. Add on they got a bunch of young kids playing who have never been in this position like pools, kuminga and moody. Sadly for iggy he’s just done at this point.  

This current team for much of the playoffs has settled on taking more three point shots when they’ve faced better defensive teams and athletic teams like the grizzlies and Celtics. Celtics and grizzlies were 1 and 3 in the league in defensive efficiency. They were up around 40 3s per game average in the grizzlies series. This series they are at 41 per game average. I think some of that is they aren’t the more athletic team in the series. Harder for them to get to the basket with the type of defenders the Celtics have. So relying on the 3 a little more.  Against Dallas who was still top 10 in defensive efficiency (9th) they were able to attack the paint more. They only had 30 3s per game average that series. Dallas while solid defensive team aren’t nearly what the Celtics or grizzlies are. 

the two biggest issues the warriors have with the Celtics are, they don’t have bigs. Wiseman was supposed to be that guy for them and he has been injury prone and a bust. Horford and both Williams dominated the warriors on the glass last night. Realistically the Celtics should be able to do that game in and game out as the warriors don’t really have anyone besides looney and draymond as their bigs. And if draymond gives you just 2 points and 4 boards they are in trouble. They were outrebounded 47-31 last night and 15-6 on offensive glass. Second the Celtics last night figured out they will just iso brown and Tatum and curry on them which makes Wiggins or someone else he’ll ona double and kick to the open shooter. Or just take it to the hoop on curry. Frankly the warriors are missing an iggy type defender that can at least make Tatum or brown work hard to get there’s. (Belief that kuminga could eventually become that type of defender). Draymond is capable of being an irritant but he can’t do it alone for an entire series 

35 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

2nd in the league with 39 3-attempts per game

29th in the league with 46 2-point attempts per game

So yea, they just shoot 3s 

Not saying they don't.  When you have 2 of the greatest shooters in NBA history and then other guys like Jordan Poole who can knock down 3's, why not shoot a ton?  Doesnt mean every team in the NBA has to do that.  Regardless,  they still move around really well, set screens, cut to get open shots.  They move well without the ball.

The problem is other teams don't have shooters like Curry and Thompson but try to shoot a ton of 3's.  That makes for bad basketball.

14 minutes ago, hputenis said:

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I mean it's less than a massage a week. Impressive would be about 6,000 or roughly 10 a day.  

52 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

PGA looks doesnt look at players as humans. They're money signs to them. Or advertising billboards. 

Not only is PGA basically banning players but also taking personal shots at there slow play(kevin na) or lack of fans. (Patrick Reed)

 

 

Could an NFL player also play in the USFL? Or do golfers, and NFL players, sign non-compete contracts?

49 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I think you underestimate people's not wanting to deal with the trauma by complaining and the willingness to ignore victims in this circumstance.  I mean look at how much Watson's attorney was in communication with the DA on this. Hardin absolutely influenced what the DA presented as potential evidence to the Grand Jury.  It was a fraud of a process designed with an outcome where the DA did not get a finding of probable cause.  He may have recommended no bill be returned.  He certainly allowed Hardin's slide presentation to be presented to the Grand Jury which he did not have to do.  There may be reasons he wanted to have the slide presentation used because ultimately a charge needs to potentially result in a conviction.  I don't think he had any obligation to present it.  He certainly could have marshalled much more evidence than he did to pursue charges.  He mailed it in.   

Grand juries need to go away, for a host of reasons.

57 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

Down with Covid for the 2nd time and since I didn’t pay attention to it months ago, WTF is going on with golf?   
 Aren’t golfers pretty much independent contractors?  Why would playing on a 2nd tour that only has like 8 events be such a big deal?  

So based on what I’ve been told is the LIV is basically funded by Saudi which there’s a whole issue that supposedly it’s "blood money”. Whoever first place gets a $4 mil dollar purse whereas if you finish last it’s automatically 120k. So the purses and prize money is actually better in those 8 tournaments as compared to most PGA events. Mickelson and Dustin Johnson are able to still do majors due to exempt status (although US open said they’d let golfers do both) and do the LIV. 

that’s about as much as I’ve heard. There’s probably more too it then that. That’s just what I’ve consistently heard and seen. 

Is there any data on injuries occurring more frequently during OTAs vs Training Camp? I don't think injury risk is all that high during OTA's as they are in helmet and shorts. I could see a higher rate of pulled muscles from lack of conditioning, but maybe not a higher rate of more long term injuries.

I recall Sirianni made a deal with the players that they would skip mini-camp if everyone was at OTA's. While I agree with that, it doesn't make much sense when you have very brief practices, and the practices are very light weight. What's the point of having everyone there if nobody is practicing? I suspect there is much more going on that the media isn't seeing, or at least I hope so.

11 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think the warriors teams from 2014-2019 were much better at moving, cutting and passing. They still do what you are saying but draymond and klay aren’t nearly what they were during their heyday runs. Love klay’s game and he’s fought through a ton to just be playing now. But isn’t the same klay he was before the injuries. Maybe he gets back there in 2022-23 season but at 32 with the injuries he had, he might just never be the same consistently. He tends to do what he has in this series. He’ll be ok for 2-3 games then pop off for a game. As for draymond i thought it was interesting the warriors were supposedly so in on Simmons last offseason. I think they saw the writing on the wall that draymond might be closer to the end and they needed someone that could defend guys like a Tatum and brown. Besides draymond, the warriors don’t have that type of guy like they had back during their run in iggy and draymond. Add on they got a bunch of young kids playing who have never been in this position like pools, kuminga and moody. Sadly for iggy he’s just done at this point.  

This current team for much of the playoffs has settled on taking more three point shots when they’ve faced better defensive teams and athletic teams like the grizzlies and Celtics. Celtics and grizzlies were 1 and 3 in the league in defensive efficiency. They were up around 40 3s per game average in the grizzlies series. This series they are at 41 per game average. I think some of that is they aren’t the more athletic team in the series. Harder for them to get to the basket with the type of defenders the Celtics have. So relying on the 3 a little more.  Against Dallas who was still top 10 in defensive efficiency (9th) they were able to attack the paint more. They only had 30 3s per game average that series. Dallas while solid defensive team aren’t nearly what the Celtics or grizzlies are. 

the two biggest issues the warriors have with the Celtics are, they don’t have bigs. Wiseman was supposed to be that guy for them and he has been injury prone and a bust. Horford and both Williams dominated the warriors on the glass last night. Realistically the Celtics should be able to do that game in and game out as the warriors don’t really have anyone besides looney and draymond as their bigs. And if draymond gives you just 2 points and 4 boards they are in trouble. They were outrebounded 47-31 last night and 15-6 on offensive glass. Second the Celtics last night figured out they will just iso brown and Tatum and curry on them which makes Wiggins or someone else he’ll ona double and kick to the open shooter. Or just take it to the hoop on curry. Frankly the warriors are missing an iggy type defender that can at least make Tatum or brown work hard to get there’s. (Belief that kuminga could eventually become that type of defender). Draymond is capable of being an irritant but he can’t do it alone for an entire series 

Very well said. Boston is playing incredibly well. People may not like all the 3 point shooting, but it won Boston game 1 in that 4th quarter. When the shot is falling that team is dam near unbeatable. 9/12 in the 4th is insane. Their offense is complimenting their defense just as much. Youre right about Dreymond and Klay though. They both arent what they used to be. The 2016 Warriors displayed the best team basketball I have ever seen and the 73 wins shows for it. Also Wiggins might be the better overall player, but Harrison Barnes fit this team better as he was a better 3 point wing. That bench was way better as well. Livingston and Speights were crucial.

12 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Could an NFL player also play in the USFL? Or do golfers, and NFL players, sign non-compete contracts?

I'm sure there is language that prohibits it and the consequence would be to void guarantees for the player.  The reality is the PGA can decide what terms it wants to set for players to play in the League.  

1 hour ago, The Blackfish said:

Down with Covid for the 2nd time and since I didn’t pay attention to it months ago, WTF is going on with golf?   
 Aren’t golfers pretty much independent contractors?  Why would playing on a 2nd tour that only has like 8 events be such a big deal?  

The PGA should have some competition -- there are 125 players who keep their tour card and everyone else has to play a qualifying tournament to try to get one.  The distasteful part of what the players are doing is that it's a Saudi-backed and Saudi-funded enterprise.  Not to delve too much into a geo-political discussion, but Saudi Arabia is one of the worst characters in the world, that for some reason (money) the West treats as though they're an ally.

It doesn't help when their prince orders the murder and dismemberment of a journalist working in the US, and Greg Norman says "everyone makes mistakes".  Creates the optics that the dollar is the only important consideration.  I'm all for a rival professional golf tour -- it's just too bad where the money is coming from. 

4 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Creates the optics that the dollar is the only important consideration.

Was there very any doubt ??

13 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

Grand juries need to go away, for a host of reasons.

I think it's fine to use a grand jury.  I do think the prosecutors should have to disclose what was presented to the grand jury post the return of a no bill.  

7 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

Is there any data on injuries occurring more frequently during OTAs vs Training Camp? I don't think injury risk is all that high during OTA's as they are in helmet and shorts. I could see a higher rate of pulled muscles from lack of conditioning, but maybe not a higher rate of more long term injuries.

I recall Sirianni made a deal with the players that they would skip mini-camp if everyone was at OTA's. While I agree with that, it doesn't make much sense when you have very brief practices, and the practices are very light weight. What's the point of having everyone there if nobody is practicing? I suspect there is much more going on that the media isn't seeing, or at least I hope so.

I don't know what the data is but I think football practices put players at a higher risk of injury than most other activities.  It seems like less practice time should result in less injuries. I am assuming that practice is something different than physical conditioning.  

19 minutes ago, UndyTaker said:

Very well said. Boston is playing incredibly well. People may not like all the 3 point shooting, but it won Boston game 1 in that 4th quarter. When the shot is falling that team is dam near unbeatable. 9/12 in the 4th is insane. Their offense is complimenting their defense just as much. Youre right about Dreymond and Klay though. They both arent what they used to be. The 2016 Warriors displayed the best team basketball I have ever seen and the 73 wins shows for it. Also Wiggins might be the better overall player, but Harrison Barnes fit this team better as he was a better 3 point wing. That bench was way better as well. Livingston and Speights were crucial.

I think a problem the warriors have is they don’t trust kuminga and moody. They could use them in this series. Particularly kuminga. During the regular season kuminga averaged about 9-3-1. This series he’s gotten garbage time minutes. He’s about the only young player they have with the athleticism and ability to potentially slow down Tatum or brown. He had a 107.8 defensive rating as a rookie. That’s really good. Yet warriors refuse to play him. 

another overlooked aspect in this series is Poole and smart. how those two go determines a lot for both teams. Smart was great in games 1 and 3. the Celtics won. He was awful on game 2. Meanwhile Poole outside of game 2 has been non existent in this series. He needs to be averaging close to 18-20 if the warriors expect to win this series. In their losses he’s averaging 9.5. 

don’t forget barbosa. He was a really good backup point at the start of their run. 

the thing with Wiggins is, he’s a solid defender. He’s better now than what he’s been in his career but he still isn’t good against star caliber players like Tatum and brown. Harrison Barnes when he was with the warriors was a really good defender. He was a 103.6 the year they won their first title. That’s insanely good. That said Wiggins is gone this offseason when he becomes an expiring contract and they look to add pieces to upgrade the roster. I actually think the warriors try to go out and get someone like a gobert or ayton this offseason or if a wing becomes available that’s an upgrade over what Wiggins is. They’d have no need for a big if wiseman panned out but he didn’t. Having some friends (tied to uofa athletics) in that organization they’re going to make a big move this offseason (assuming other teams want to make the move with them). Based off what I’ve gathered they don’t want to deal kuminga but open to wiseman, Wiggins, moody and picks  

 

35 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure I understand your point about fringe players.  I agree that more reps may change the evaluation of a player but it's not like the number of roster or ps spots change based on the number players that look good in camp.  Fringe players will get spots based in part on how they performed but I don't think the risk for not keeping a player changes.  I think the evaluations on who gets a roster spot will stay the same.  If your argument is that overall a lack of reps prevents improvement for the players, I would argue it's not like the limited reps at practice prevents a player from pacticing on his own.  If the coach wants them to run a route a certain way or use certain footwork in blocking, there are still 24 hours in a day.  

Yes, I think the trade off is the decrease in the chance of a more serious injury.  I think it puts the honus on Hurts and others to work on their own.  I think there is a risk of a lack of cohesion and execution at the start of a season.  I am hoping the move to joint practices mitigates some of that risk.  

I think football is unique compared to basketball and baseball. You really can’t simulate game situations like you can in those sports. Individual training is more important than team training in those two. 
 

I am fine with joint practices, but starters need to get reps in preseason games. That’s where my concern lies, that NS will follow suit from last year and not play starters at all basically. Of course, we’ll see how it plays out, but so far, it doesn’t look promising.

39 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I am not sure I understand your point about fringe players.  I agree that more reps may change the evaluation of a player but it's not like the number of roster or ps spots change based on the number players that look good in camp.  Fringe players will get spots based in part on how they performed but I don't think the risk for not keeping a player changes.  I think the evaluations on who gets a roster spot will stay the same.  If your argument is that overall a lack of reps prevents improvement for the players, I would argue it's not like the limited reps at practice prevents a player from pacticing on his own.  If the coach wants them to run a route a certain way or use certain footwork in blocking, there are still 24 hours in a day.  

There's a huge difference between practicing with a coach and practicing on your own.  Practicing on your own often means that you are reinforcing the bad habits, because you can't watch yourself do it, and doing it wrong a bunch of times just makes it more ingrained.  On the flip side, getting that rep in front of your coach can lead to more fine tuning and a chance to get it fixed, so that the next 10 reps on your own are better than if that first rep wasn't with the coach and you just did it 11 times and each time you did it wrong.  

I'll add, fewer reps in practice for fringe players means that those players have fewer opportunities to stand out to their coaches and it hurts their ability to 'beat the odds' and make the roster.  Ultimately, UDFAs need a chance to really shine in front of their coaches, and practicing privately isn't going to afford them much opportunity to open their coaches' eyes.  

There are 24 hours in a day, and the goal should be to maximize efficiency within those hours.  Practicing 10 reps with a coach to correct and teach proper technique is better than 100 reps on your own when you are struggling to do it right.   There's not much in the way of instant feedback, or any feedback at all, about your success at changing the form or not.   Now, of course, they could go out and hire independent coaches to work with them in the offseason, but once again, that puts the fringe player at a disadvantage, because they don't have the resources of the higher profile players in terms of signing bonuses, etc.   


The lack of reps in OTAs, TC, etc. lowers the overall level of the game.   Reps are always important.

Why is Russell Wilson the way he is?

Talk about social media content...go to the Broncos twitter feed and you'll see exactly how bad the Eagles are.

 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Why is Russell Wilson the way he is?

Talk about social media content...go to the Broncos twitter feed and you'll see exactly how bad the Eagles are.

 

 

Note to self... Use Yes Sirski more often

 

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