Just now, TorontoEagle said:

Open competition is a bad thing? If he’s as bad as an UDFA should be, then Hurts should be able to blow him away in a competition, right? 

You’re wasting reps giving him reps with the 1’s. That’s just dumb. Minshew, OK, but Strong? All reports are saying he’s number 4 and I don’t even know who number 3 is. 

1 hour ago, Bacarty2 said:

I'm unsure what you dont get. NO ONE GIVES A FLYING F ABOUT REGULAR SEASON

 

Except you brought it up as the primary point before you were exposed that the point actually works against your argument because you just fling crap at a wall like some monkey in a zoo cage without actually doing any backup work beforehand to make sure you actually know what you're talking about. 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

You’re wasting reps giving him reps with the 1’s. That’s just dumb. Minshew, OK, but Strong? All reports are saying he’s number 4 and I don’t even know who number 3 is. 

The coaches don’t care about reps. Look at the PS games as evidence 

41 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

You can be a masseuse lech and get a 6 game suspension.  You bet $1500, suspended for the whole season

NFL has clear rules about betting on NFL games.  There is no gray area, there is no investigation, clear and concise rule with a clear penalty.  If you don't understand the gambling rule, not sure we can even have a discussion.

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Am I missing something? You expect an UDFA rookie should get a shot at the starting job? Really? 

Of all the hot takes . . .

Right now it's an open question whether Strong even makes the final roster.

Minshew hasn't show anything to suggest he's a starting NFL QB (when you're available for a 6th rd pick, and your former team started the second worst QB in the league last year . . .)

Hurts went 8-6 last year and helped get them into the playoffs, he may not be pretty, but as long as he keeps winning, he'll keep playing. Right now he's around #20 among starting NFL QBs, which is a 1st rd value (the majority of 1st rd QBs don't turn out as good, especially any taken out of the top ten picks). If he incrementally improves this season, he may move into the #10-15 range, good enough to ride a top team to a ring - see Stafford.

Even if Roseman is able to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft, the odds that that QB will end up a top ten QB are what 25%?  The odds that the QB taken high next year is worse than Hurts is probably over 50%.

So it makes sense to ride Hurts for now, accumulate assets, retain cap room, and keep your options open.

Never know when a Nick Foles will fall into your lap. 😁

 

37 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Awww come on man.  Nick is a nice guy and he he's fun.  And he's young so give him a break.  No reason for him to act like a 60 year old.  

He’s just a kid. Basically. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Of all the hot takes . . .

Right now it's an open question whether Strong even makes the final roster.

Minshew hasn't show anything to suggest he's a starting NFL QB (when you're available for a 6th rd pick, and your former team started the second worst QB in the league last year . . .)

Hurts went 8-6 last year and helped get them into the playoffs, he may not be pretty, but as long as he keeps winning, he'll keep playing. Right now he's around #20 among starting NFL QBs, which is a 1st rd value (the majority of 1st rd QBs don't turn out as good, especially any taken out of the top ten picks). If he incrementally improves this season, he may move into the #10-15 range, good enough to ride a top team to a ring - see Stafford.

Even if Roseman is able to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft, the odds that that QB will end up a top ten QB are what 25%?  The odds that the QB taken high next year is worse than Hurts is probably over 50%.

So it makes sense to ride Hurts for now, accumulate assets, retain cap room, and keep your options open.

Never know when a Nick Foles will fall into your lap. 😁

 

Accept better yards per game, touchdown per game, completion percentage, better touchdown percentage, interception percentage, touchdown to interception ratio than our starter....

10 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Of all the hot takes . . .

Right now it's an open question whether Strong even makes the final roster.

Minshew hasn't show anything to suggest he's a starting NFL QB (when you're available for a 6th rd pick, and your former team started the second worst QB in the league last year . . .)

Hurts went 8-6 last year and helped get them into the playoffs, he may not be pretty, but as long as he keeps winning, he'll keep playing. Right now he's around #20 among starting NFL QBs, which is a 1st rd value (the majority of 1st rd QBs don't turn out as good, especially any taken out of the top ten picks). If he incrementally improves this season, he may move into the #10-15 range, good enough to ride a top team to a ring - see Stafford.

Even if Roseman is able to draft one of the top QBs in next year's draft, the odds that that QB will end up a top ten QB are what 25%?  The odds that the QB taken high next year is worse than Hurts is probably over 50%.

So it makes sense to ride Hurts for now, accumulate assets, retain cap room, and keep your options open.

Never know when a Nick Foles will fall into your lap. 😁

 

Well then Hurts should be able to humiliate Strong in an open competition. What’s the worry?

15 minutes ago, austinfan said:

Minshew hasn't show anything to suggest he's a starting NFL QB (when you're available for a 6th rd pick, and your former team started the second worst QB in the league last year . . .)

Hurts went 8-6 last year and helped get them into the playoffs, he may not be pretty, but as long as he keeps winning, he'll keep playing. Right now he's around #20 among starting NFL QBs, which is a 1st rd value 

Baker Mayfield was traded for a conditional 2024 pick, so is he not a starting QB ??  He won a playoff game, so trade value is irrelevant to actual value.

And the Jags starting the second worst QB in the league argument is just intellectually dishonest.  He was a rookie, the #1 pick, and was going to start regardless.  And then there is the whole Urban Meyer situation.

 

Minshew is clearly not viewed as a starter in the league. He's a solid backup. That's fine.

 

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  That's what he was looking for.  A real massage.  

 

Don't be so naive.  He was looking for what they were on instagram for.  And it wasn't just a massage.  He's just a bigger dirtball than they were used to dealing with.  A richer one at that.  

I know all types of professionals who advertise on Instagram. Chefs, musicians, home improvement, realtors,... They aren't looking to give out hand jobs on the side. I don't know what type of clientele these Houston masseuses were looking for, but they found a vile one.

On 7/29/2022 at 10:55 PM, Sack that QB said:

Does anyone know if NFL players are contractual obligated or via the CBA to get team approval if they want to make appearances on podcasts? Or can they just do whatever they want?

I think they have an obligation to participate with media that have contractual or marketing relationships.  I think they can go on whatever podcast they want.  

Holy smokes, the Deebo contract broke the entire Titans fanbase. They just go on and on for pages whining about AJ Brown

 

https://www.titansreport.com/topic/44934-deebo-signs-with-9ers/

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

I think if Minshew was drafted in the 2nd it would be have been an extreme reach for that team and he'd be given the starting role solely based on his draft position. Sound familiar? 

Maybe. RD2 is the cut-off. But not all RD2 QBs get actual playing time: Kizer, Hackenberg, Clausen only got it when Carolina wanted to tank for Newton.

The Cardinals and Commanders actively tried not to play their 1st rounders (Rosen, Haskins). 

6 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So now Hurts is 1st round value because he’s in the bottom half of the league.  Wow.  I’ve seen desperate spin before.  But that takes the cake.  

 

That is why afan is not missed when he does not post.  He posts like his opinion ins gospel, and will not respond to any counterpoint, like below.

 

11 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Baker Mayfield was traded for a conditional 2024 pick, so is he not a starting QB ??  He won a playoff game, so trade value is irrelevant to actual value.

And the Jags starting the second worst QB in the league argument is just intellectually dishonest.  He was a rookie, the #1 pick, and was going to start regardless.  And then there is the whole Urban Meyer situation.

 

 

1 minute ago, Bacarty2 said:

I truly believe because Hurts's draft position you wont see a true QB competition. 

If Hurts was terrible last year (he wasn't), then we would have brought someone in. He was in the average to below-average range with upside, so he gets this year. If he doesn't improve, then he's not starting next year.

There's no upside going to Minshew, who couldn't do it with the Jags and has less physical tools than Hurts. 

The most likely scenario is that Hurts is in the 20th best QB range, which is good enough to compete most weeks but not enough to compete for a SB...and he'll be replaced.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Hurts was terrible last year (he wasn't), then we would have brought someone in. He was in the average to below-average range with upside, so he gets this year. If he doesn't improve, then he's not starting next year.

There's no upside going to Minshew, who couldn't do it with the Jags and has less physical tools than Hurts. 

The most likely scenario is that Hurts is in the 20th best QB range, which is good enough to compete most weeks but not enough to compete for a SB...and he'll be replaced.

There’s no upside to Hurts. He’s already shown in these practices nothing has changed. 
 

10 minutes ago, RLC said:

If Hurts was terrible last year (he wasn't), then we would have brought someone in. He was in the average to below-average range with upside, so he gets this year. If he doesn't improve, then he's not starting next year.

There's no upside going to Minshew, who couldn't do it with the Jags and has less physical tools than Hurts. 

Minshew is a superior passer as proven by the stats.  One thing that should really catch your attention, in the dumpster fire in Jacksonville is where he had the majority of his starts.

He has thrown 1 less interception than Hurts for his career, while attempting 277 more passes.

Gross

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gross

I'm hoping Covey wins that spot but seems highly unlikely 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Gross

Where’s Reno Mahe when you need him 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I'm hoping Covey wins that spot but seems highly unlikely 

Unless they can make some miracle trade, seems we are going to be stuck with Reagor on the roster and will have to use him somewhere, sadly. Don't see how they can keep Reagor and then another WR that does nothing for the passing game.