3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Golf is too expensive,👎 Frisbee golf is free, sans the price of the Frisbee.

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Yup exactly.

I wouldn't take my post as agreeing with your points on this. There is a distinct difference between believing personally someone committed a criminal act and whether that person is a convicted criminal.  Watson hasn't been and will not be convicted of any crime related to the massages.  I am speculating about what was presented but I think it would be speculation to believe a criminal charge would have resulted in a criminal conviction. 

We also do not know what the claims settled for and it's possible they settled for something approaching a cost of defense of the claim which would indicate a lack of merit.  The fact that all of the claims resolved fairly quickly tells me that there was likely some compromise on the value of the claims such that each side had a framework for a fair value for their clients  This doesn't mean that Watson would have prevailed but it does mean that the claimants' attorney likely believed there was more than a small chance Watson would prevail.  Now, litigation is costly and when a firm is working on a contingency and not getting paid despite usually investing resources and money can create financial pressure to settle a claim.  Watson wanted to play this year and I doubt his status with the League would have been determined with the civil litigation pending.  I am sure the settlements also took into account Watson's potential liability at trial.  

27 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

My take on the non-indictment was that it was what the prosecutor wanted.  There are a number of reasons why they may not have vigorously sought an indictment.  First, is that conviction even with multiple witnesses is difficult (or perceived as difficult) in sexual miscounduct/assault cases.  There was no violence where the women were physically harmed.  These cases would be hard fought and expensive prosecutions for the state.  They would have have reliable victims that were willing to participate in the contentious litigation over the next year of their lives or more.  The victims were seeking and likely to receive financial compensation from the perpetrator without the criminal prosecution.  A criminal case could actually hamper their recovery and the ability to resolve that litigation.  I think those factors likely played a role in the evidence that was presented and the fact that Hardin was allowed to provide a power point to at least one of the grand juries.  

All of this may be true, it's a very rational take. But the other poster insists that Watson is a criminal, which he unequivocally is not. 

Just now, NCiggles said:

I wouldn't take my post as agreeing with your points on this. There is a distinct difference between believing personally someone committed a criminal act and whether that person is a convicted criminal.  Watson hasn't been and will not be convicted of any crime related to the massages.  I am speculating about what was presented but I think it would be speculation to believe a criminal charge would have resulted in a criminal conviction. 

We also do not know what the claims settled for and it's possible they settled for something approaching a cost of defense of the claim which would indicate a lack of merit.  The fact that all of the claims resolved fairly quickly tells me that there was likely some compromise on the value of the claims such that each side had a framework for a fair value for their clients  This doesn't mean that Watson would have prevailed but it does mean that the claimants' attorney likely believed there was more than a small chance Watson would prevail.  Now, litigation is costly and when a firm is working on a contingency and not getting paid despite usually investing resources and money can create financial pressure to settle a claim.  Watson wanted to play this year and I doubt his status with the League would have been determined with the civil litigation pending.  I am sure the settlements also took into account Watson's potential liability at trial.  

Great summation. 

7 minutes ago, downundermike said:

I will hack a ball around a regular golf course but I don't like to do that on my dime.  

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Devonta gonna be big mad this year.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Yeah.  He and someone else I can’t talk about or he’ll cry and then run to the mods.  

shut up, I ran to your mom not the mods.  

7 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

All of this may be true, it's a very rational take. But the other poster insists that Watson is a criminal, which he unequivocally is not. 

I get it but it's like saying OJ murdered his wife. 

22 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Kind of funny, I was just going to post you as the guy in the blog most like him.

I always thought this little kid was Bacarty personified:

 

Just now, NCiggles said:

shut up, I ran to your mom not the mods.  

I get it but it's like saying OJ murdered his wife. 

Kind of, but the OJ trial was such a unique circus of events

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I play at least twice a week. 

Lucky, I get out 2-3 times a month only 

2 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Question.  Who in the blog is most like this guy?  I’m talking outfit, hipster beard, hobby, personality, and potential to be a member of ANTIFA.  
 

 

Arizona is a mess.

1 minute ago, RLC said:

Arizona is a mess.

Raping 75 women - 6 game suspension

Betting $1,500 on a game - 1 Full Season Suspension

Gotta think Criminal Speeding has to come with at least a 3 year suspension

7 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

I play at least twice a week. 

 

5 minutes ago, TorontoEagle said:

Lucky, I get out 2-3 times a month only 

 

I haven't played as much as I would like this year, but I will hit a bucket once a week.

Plus, my companies owner built a bar with a golf simulator in the building next door to our office, so we get to do that during work hours in the winter.

Saw this today. City isn't good in general with high picks. 

 

"From April 2016 to June 2017, Philly's teams had five athletes drafted Nos. 1 and 2 in their respective drafts:

 

Carson Wentz (No. 2, 2016)

Mickey Moniak (No. 1, 2016)

Ben Simmons (No. 1, 2016)

Markelle Fultz (No. 1, 2017)

Nolan Patrick (No. 2, 2017)

 

All five are now gone "

 

(Via Zach Berman Twitter)

Just now, downundermike said:

 

 

I haven't played as much as I would like this year, but I will hit a bucket once a week.

Plus, my companies owner built a bar with a golf simulator in the building next door to our office, so we get to do that during work hours in the winter.

Living here, we have to rely on the simulators from November to April basically. I hate them. You don't really get great feedback cause it's turf, and the putting is just a complete joke. Short game can be real wonky too. But....it's still better than disc golf

3 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Raping 75 women - 6 game suspension

Betting $1,500 on a game - 1 Full Season Suspension

Gotta think Criminal Speeding has to come with at least a 3 year suspension

Just a quick question....do you think the punishment for Ridley was wrong?

5 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

Raping 75 women - 6 game suspension

Betting $1,500 on a game - 1 Full Season Suspension

Gotta think Criminal Speeding has to come with at least a 3 year suspension

Who raped 75 women ???

NFL rules and penalties for betting on NFL games are clear and concise, do you understand why ??  Do you know when the first year long suspension for betting took place ??

1 minute ago, TorontoEagle said:

Living here, we have to rely on the simulators from November to April basically. I hate them. You don't really get great feedback cause it's turf, and the putting is just a complete joke. Short game can be real wonky too. But....it's still better than disc golf

Just a quick question....do you think the punishment for Ridley was wrong?

No I don't think it was wrong because I believe that is the rule they have written in place.  Just strange how you look at something like betting $1,500 vs all the charges vs Watson and compare the two and which should be punished more.  I get that it's the integrity of the game.

Pete Rose suspended for life for betting on himself.    Robert Kraft involved with sex trafficking and minors - forget if he was ever suspended or fined

2 minutes ago, garingovt2000 said:

No I don't think it was wrong because I believe that is the rule they have written in place.  Just strange how you look at something like betting $1,500 vs all the charges vs Watson and compare the two and which should be punished more.  I get that it's the integrity of the game.

Pete Rose suspended for life for betting on himself.    Robert Kraft involved with sex trafficking and minors - forget if he was ever suspended or fined

Now that you get that, again, who raped 75 women ???????

2 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Now that you get that, again, who raped 75 women ???????

Lol it was an over exaggeration. 

Just now, garingovt2000 said:

Lol it was an over exaggeration. 

It was flat out false, he did not rape anyone..........

 

 

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Goodell will always get it right.  Best commissioner in major professional sports

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said: