46 minutes ago, EaglesIreland said:

I have to say that was a lovely moment because the camera was on her and you saw the row several rows behind her stand up spontaneously and dick vermeil asks for it to be shown but it came across as a lovely spontaneous moment. 

Having the privilege of hearing the plethora of behind the scenes stories down through the years both NFL related and not, that wasn’t a contrived moment. Incredibly happy for her. 

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

It means they are scared to death to criticize Jalen Hurts for one reason and one reason only.  It's the elephant in the room.  I know it's uncomfortable to talk about but I guarantee you that's why.

By all accounts, Hurts has had one "good" day.  The rest have been not good or just eh.  If that was Carson Wentz performing like that you better believe there would be articles or tweets criticizing him.  They aren't afraid to say that Minshew has underperformed but from everything I've read, he's made the same good and bad plays that Hurts has.

The fact of the matter is we are given a minimal amount of information regarding practice but what we have been given it sounds like Hurts is the exact same guy as last year and all the hard work and dedication only goes so far.  He's a limited quarterback that can run the ball.  

Yeah, that's definitely part of it. I think they're overanalyzing everything, too, in a way where they're losing the bigger perspective of his overall play. 

Just now, schuy7 said:

Yeah, that's definitely part of it. I think they're overanalyzing everything, too, in a way where they're losing the bigger perspective of his overall play. 

Reuben Frank has gone out of his way to provide us with over the top Jalen Hurts stats in every one of his 10 Observations since the season ended.  He probably just doesn't want to look like a jiggly necked moron at this point but all of those stats mean nothing and provide no indication of how he really is as a QB.

Good nugget from Wulf. Josiah Scott is essentially a S now taking all individual reps there and playing on the second team at S. Tartt is playing third team safety. 

Also Reid Sinnett has been dealing the last few days. He’s been taking all the developmental reps now and Strong isn’t doing anything in team drills. Seems like the third man job is his unless something changes dramatically. 

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Good nugget from Wulf. Josiah Scott is essentially a S now taking all individual reps there and playing on the second team at S. Tartt is playing third team safety. 

Andre Chachere and Josiah Scott were core members of ST last year.  It sounds like Kary Vincent is getting more reps where Scott was in the slot and all three of those guys offer you CB/S value.  I'd be more than happy to see those three on the team at the expense of Wallace, Gowan and Tartt. 

Chachere is the oldest at 26 while Vincent and Scott are both 23.  Give me younger players with upside and position flexibility over 1-year stop gap veterans or underperforming players who might have been drafted higher.

The following should be locks but keep in mind they carried upwards of 8 CB on the roster last year.  I can easily see them going light at RB(3) DE(4) and potentially OL(9) in order to keep some of this potential talent they have at CB.  

CB-Slay, Bradberry, Maddox, McPhearson, Vincent

S- Epps, Chachere, Scott, Harris 

Mac McCain has been making a name for himself too and offers more length on the outside.  Josh Jobe has been popping up in some mentions too.  Excited to see how Mario Goodrich plays in games too.

I think with a year to watch these guys, they'll cull a few, and try to get them on the PS.

Last year they didn't have time to really evaluate them, saw it as a rebuilding season, so Howie was reluctant to expose them to waivers.

I think it is completely unfair to lower a player's stock based on tiny, unreliable windows of insight into a controversially light training camp.  However, based on years of evidence of real games prior to this training camp, the snippets of struggling and lack of precision we have received certainly suggest that no one should expect some miraculous reversal into a quality passing QB.  Everyone should expect what they've always seen, plus some marginal improvement from 1 more year of experience.

Anyone that expects otherwise really shouldn't be trusted.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Trading camp is half over btw 

Such a glass half-empty outlook.  There is still half of TC to go!!!

11 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

Not good.

10 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

I was arguing that he's my front runner for the 6th WR kept, BUT it does seem as if they're making an effort to give a lot of the young guys some runs with the 1s so hard to tell.

If used properly, he's going to be the 4th WR when they go to a 4 WR formation. 

He'll also see time in the slot in the 3 WR formations, meaning someone is gonna be on the bench in those situations, either Watkins or Smith.

Hurts and Covey should get their chemistry solidified, there aren't going to be many DBs that can cover Covey, he's going to be getting open all day, every game.  

32 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I think it is completely unfair to lower a player's stock based on tiny, unreliable windows of insight into a controversially light training camp.  However, based on years of evidence of real games prior to this training camp, the snippets of struggling and lack of precision we have received certainly suggest that no one should expect some miraculous reversal into a quality passing QB.  Everyone should expect what they've always seen, plus some marginal improvement from 1 more year of experience.

Anyone that expects otherwise really shouldn't be trusted.

If this is true, then it also has to be true that our defense isn't going to be any better, since Hurts is performing about the same as last year. So adding Davis, Reddick, Bradberry and White, and elevating Epps and Edwards to starting spots, has made zero difference, and we should expect a defense outside the top 10 again, and one that will be abused by the better qbs in the league. 

28 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Such a glass half-empty outlook.  There is still half of TC to go!!!

Speaking of half-empty, here are some of the disappointing developments from camp at the halfway point. 

* Milton Williams is been pretty quiet. Maybe the elbow is holding him back, but I was hoping to see him make more splash plays.

* It doesn’t sound like the dart throws at depth corner are all that much closer to being sorted out. I haven’t read a lot of positives from Gowan, Vincent and McCain. McPhearson has been up and down, not that I necessarily lump him in with the others. Scott cross training at safety is interesting, but my guess it’s more about "the more you can do” as a backup. He’s probably the guy I’m least excited about based on significant size limitations. I just don’t see him as a legitimate safety, even as an emergency guy. Perhaps they love him so much as a gunner that they want to justify his roster spot by making him a Jack of all trades?

* Hurts doesn’t seem to have made significant enough strides. It’s nice that he’s starting to target the MOF since Brown is great over the middle. Some improvement isn’t enough though. 

* Calcaterra’s injury was a bummer. He’ll likely make the team on scholarship regardless, but it’d be nice to see him upgrade on Stoll. 

* Nakobe Dean’s fall in the draft left me a little less enthused than a lot of Blog folks. There were concerns about size/athleticism and it doesn’t sound like he’s popping much in camp. It’s not the end of the world, because part of what set him apart in the college ranks was his instincts and smarts. He doesn’t know the playbook completely (I assume), and he’s not really studying opponents’ tendencies or a game plan. He might be a better regular season player. 

36 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

If this is true, then it also has to be true that our defense isn't going to be any better, since Hurts is performing about the same as last year. So adding Davis, Reddick, Bradberry and White, and elevating Epps and Edwards to starting spots, has made zero difference, and we should expect a defense outside the top 10 again, and one that will be abused by the better qbs in the league. 

Reddick is a proven pass rusher.  Bradberry is a proven cover guy.  Davis is a first round pick who was one of the most staunch DL in college football.  If those individuals are "more of the same", then the defense will be a lot better.

Hurts is a proven bad passer.  More of the same from him is...more of the same.  

32 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Speaking of half-empty, here are some of the disappointing developments from camp at the halfway point. 

* Milton Williams is been pretty quiet. Maybe the elbow is holding him back, but I was hoping to see him make more splash plays.

* It doesn’t sound like the dart throws at depth corner are all that much closer to being sorted out. I haven’t read a lot of positives from Gowan, Vincent and McCain. McPhearson has been up and down, not that I necessarily lump him in with the others. Scott cross training at safety is interesting, but my guess it’s more about "the more you can do” as a backup. He’s probably the guy I’m least excited about based on significant size limitations. I just don’t see him as a legitimate safety, even as an emergency guy. Perhaps they love him so much as a gunner that they want to justify his roster spot by making him a Jack of all trades?

* Hurts doesn’t seem to have made significant enough strides. It’s nice that he’s starting to target the MOF since Brown is great over the middle. Some improvement isn’t enough though. 

* Calcaterra’s injury was a bummer. He’ll likely make the team on scholarship regardless, but it’d be nice to see him upgrade on Stoll. 

* Nakobe Dean’s fall in the draft left me a little less enthused than a lot of Blog folks. There were concerns about size/athleticism and it doesn’t sound like he’s popping much in camp. It’s not the end of the world, because part of what set him apart in the college ranks was his instincts and smarts. He doesn’t know the playbook completely (I assume), and he’s not really studying opponents’ tendencies or a game plan. He might be a better regular season player. 

A half-full guy, I bolded the players who aren't backups.

That said,  Hurts has been and will be the key.  His level of play last year would still probably sneak us into the playoffs.  But we need more to be taken seriously in January.

2 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I think it is completely unfair to lower a player's stock based on tiny, unreliable windows of insight into a controversially light training camp.  However, based on years of evidence of real games prior to this training camp, the snippets of struggling and lack of precision we have received certainly suggest that no one should expect some miraculous reversal into a quality passing QB.  Everyone should expect what they've always seen, plus some marginal improvement from 1 more year of experience.

Anyone that expects otherwise really shouldn't be trusted.

"Years of evidence?"  Bit of a stretch there.

1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

* Calcaterra’s injury was a bummer. He’ll likely make the team on scholarship regardless, but it’d be nice to see him upgrade on Stoll.

He wasn't going to beat out Stoll in any case.

Stoll is already one of the best run blocking TEs in the NFL.

They're working on his receiving, but he ran a 4.68 at 247 lbs, even bulked up to 255 he's probably in the 4.75 range, which is fine for the 4th or 5th option in the passing game when they're in a 2 TE formation - like Lewis and Celek before him, he just has to find the soft spots in the zone and catch the ball.

He was a decent receiver in college:

 

8 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Has anyone been following other teams camps? I'm curious how guys like Kyle Hamilton, Malik Willis, London, Olave, Burks, Pickett, etc are looking.

Side note: apparently Goff loves throwing to DJ Chark and that connection has been really good in their camp. Something to note for week 1. I know people wanted DJ Chark for the Eagles, my ncluded. Wasn't close to my top guy, but think he was a very good value signing for them compared to what other guys got. Would rather have him outright than Kirk. Will likely get a nice deal after this season with a team not named the Lions.

 Sam Howell up until Tuesday had been playing well(I haven’t seen anything since), and in Carolina, Corral has looked really good, better than Darnold and his compact throwing motion with a quick release is getting press. 
 Willis was bad last week but this week he’s been getting reps with the 2nd stringers 7v7 and has looked much better, also helped by his cannon for an arm.   
Pickens, Doubs, Moore, and London have been the best rookie WR’s in camp.  
 
 
 

58 minutes ago, The Blackfish said:

 Sam Howell up until Tuesday had been playing well(I haven’t seen anything since), and in Carolina, Corral has looked really good, better than Darnold and his compact throwing motion with a quick release is getting press. 
 Willis was bad last week but this week he’s been getting reps with the 2nd stringers 7v7 and has looked much better, also helped by his cannon for an arm.   
Pickens, Doubs, Moore, and London have been the best rookie WR’s in camp.  
 
 
 

Have been seeing a lot of Dotson hype too 

One of the bad things for me about this camp is we don't know how good this defense actually is because they're playing against a mediocre at best offense.

I believe last summer was the same way, a lot of good reports on the defense and turns out the offense was just atrocious. Maybe that was a different offseason but I worry just the same.

Nice 

 

 

35 More Days until Week 1.   It was cool seeing Doug (Won Super Bowl LII) again during the Hall of Fame Game.   Also Eagles Legend Dick Vermeil got inducted (Took Eagles to Super Bowl XV first Appearance).  Cool trip down Super Bowl Memory Lane this weekend.  

 

 

Getting closer and closer. I'll actually be in the States for Week one!!!

19 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

I was arguing that he's my front runner for the 6th WR kept, BUT it does seem as if they're making an effort to give a lot of the young guys some runs with the 1s so hard to tell.

He is the the new Danny Watkins, 25 year old rookie lol.